Why bother hyping up... [SPOILERS]

[Krillin1994]

What was the point in all this hype that they've built up for Kale to have her instantly eliminated by Jiren? besides to hype him up.

Unless she properly fights against Goku for a bit and forces him to use a lot of strength it won't even be a good measuring stick for Jiren.

Plus she'll have only been in 4 episodes before the tournament begins.... and she won't do anything before she transforms so she'll only get a bit of 100...... seems like a waste.

I'd much have preferred her to be rampaging in the background for a couple of episodes.

[precita]

Her character and Caulifa will likely continue to appear in future arcs after this tournament ends. I don't believe for a second all the other universes will be wiped out permanently.

Kale and Caulifa already have huge fanbases in Japan, they're not going to throw out the two Saiyan girls after only one arc.

[Chuquita]

Maybe Kale was more of a Toei character than a Toriyama one? Toei wanted spin-off Brolli, Toriyama gave them spin-off Brolli, but he wasn't obligated to make her a driving force in the arc, so he didn't. That's my guess.

[GodKaio-Ken]

*sigh*

Being a Broly clone doesnt mean youre being hyped up. Also even if she was its good to be unexpected.

I personally dislike both Kale and Caulifla so I dont mind.

[Krillin1994]

*sigh*

Being a Broly clone doesnt mean youre being hyped up. Also even if she was its good to be unexpected.

I personally dislike both Kale and Caulifla so I dont mind.

She has been hyped up, she appeared in the pre arc preview, in the opening, one of the early revealed designs from manga drawings, appeared in 3 episodes in the tournament build up.

[Lionel]

Far as I stand, she's just there to represent the generic character archetype of a reticent uneager wallflower with a deep subconscious angry side that's capable of lashing out in the most brutal manner possible if provoked. Her characterisation is bland, to be frank. She has little else to define her character except living within the shadow of Caulifla and defending her "honour" when she feels her teacher has been disrespected. Of course, I would prefer she get faced with the mortal enemy of Saiyans, Freeza, instead of just being offered up as the sacrificial lamb to embellish Jiren's unoriginal "powah monster" complex.

[GodKaio-Ken]

*sigh*

Being a Broly clone doesnt mean youre being hyped up. Also even if she was its good to be unexpected.

I personally dislike both Kale and Caulifla so I dont mind.

She has been hyped up, she appeared in the pre arc preview, in the opening, one of the early revealed designs from manga drawings, appeared in 3 episodes in the tournament build up.

I dont consider any of that hype. I just consider that introducing a character.

Hype is, to me, going out of your way to repeatedly show or explain a characters strength. Maybe my definition is different.

[Draconic]

She goes berserk and probably takes down a lot of fodder before being dispatched by Jiren. I imagine after her rampage is done, only the truly important characters will remain and things will get less chaotic. That's when stuff like Gohan's teamwork, Freeza and Frost' schemes and Goku trying out his new form will take place.

So she has a big role in getting the action to the point, but not a lot in the grand scheme of things. Just my two cents.

[Krillin1994]

*sigh*

Being a Broly clone doesnt mean youre being hyped up. Also even if she was its good to be unexpected.

I personally dislike both Kale and Caulifla so I dont mind.

She has been hyped up, she appeared in the pre arc preview, in the opening, one of the early revealed designs from manga drawings, appeared in 3 episodes in the tournament build up.

I dont consider any of that hype. I just consider that introducing a character.

Hype is, to me, going out of your way to repeatedly show or explain a characters strength. Maybe my definition is different.

So which character has been hyped then? we've not repeatedly had Jiren's strength explained. we had Toppo say he was stronger and his bit just before the tournament started. Kale was stated to be a very powerful member that they'd recruited.

[BlueBasilisk]

The spoilers just say that Jiren defeats her. It's unclear if it's actually an elimination or if she's KOed but left in the ring.

[GodKaio-Ken]

She has been hyped up, she appeared in the pre arc preview, in the opening, one of the early revealed designs from manga drawings, appeared in 3 episodes in the tournament build up.

I dont consider any of that hype. I just consider that introducing a character.

Hype is, to me, going out of your way to repeatedly show or explain a characters strength. Maybe my definition is different.

So which character has been hyped then? we've not repeatedly had Jiren's strength explained. we had Toppo say he was stronger and his bit just before the tournament started. Kale was stated to be a very powerful member that they'd recruited.

Frieza was hyped at the end, Goku obviously, Gohan to an extent, Caulifla, Jiren. You can argue 17 too.

The rest i just see as introductions to the cast.

Btw when did they say Kale is even strong in universe? Not saying it didnt happen maybe I missed it.

[Boo Machine]

Because maybe she isn't as important as other characters. Can we at least see how she does, before we decide she was wasted?

If you want to remain optimistic then the leaks said she gets defeated, not necessarily eliminated. Kind of like how Narirama got shit stomped pretty hard but he is still technically in the match. Maybe Jiren just stops her rampage.

In any case I'm not sure why episode count matters. Like if someone sticks around for a 100 episodes that doesn't mean they contribute anything worth while, or can't make a good impression if they only around for a couple.

And to be fair, some of the fault goes with the fans. Especially those who get excited and instantly expect great things from a new character who hasn't done anything yet. I remember when Caulifla first made a 5 second appearance and everyone loved her right away despite her just having a scene where she was only eating.

[Krillin1994]

I dont consider any of that hype. I just consider that introducing a character.

Hype is, to me, going out of your way to repeatedly show or explain a characters strength. Maybe my definition is different.

So which character has been hyped then? we've not repeatedly had Jiren's strength explained. we had Toppo say he was stronger and his bit just before the tournament started. Kale was stated to be a very powerful member that they'd recruited.

Frieza was hyped at the end, Goku obviously, Gohan to an extent, Caulifla, Jiren. You can argue 17 too.

The rest i just see as introductions to the cast.

Btw when did they say Kale is even strong in universe? Not saying it didnt happen maybe I missed it.

I mean U7 characters are obviously gonna be hyped most.

Caulifla says she can feel amazing power coming from Kale once she transforms. and Once she reverts Cabba thinks to himself "we may have accidentally found an amazing member"

[GodKaio-Ken]

So which character has been hyped then? we've not repeatedly had Jiren's strength explained. we had Toppo say he was stronger and his bit just before the tournament started. Kale was stated to be a very powerful member that they'd recruited.

Frieza was hyped at the end, Goku obviously, Gohan to an extent, Caulifla, Jiren. You can argue 17 too.

The rest i just see as introductions to the cast.

Btw when did they say Kale is even strong in universe? Not saying it didnt happen maybe I missed it.

I mean U7 characters are obviously gonna be hyped most.

Caulifla says she can feel amazing power coming from Kale once she transforms. and Once she reverts Cabba thinks to himself "we may have accidentally found an amazing member"

Ah okay I actually do remember those lines.

Really it doesnt matter she was or wasnt hyped...it should be a positive to us that the tournament is unpredictable.

I mean if she runs into someone like Vegeta early on its not embarrassing to lose.

[Asura]

This is getting ridiculous. Can you assholes please post all your spoilers in a spoiler thread instead of posting it here with the spoiler in the title? Not cool.

I'm getting rather sick of this shit happening again and again and It'd be nice if the moderators can delete these threads and direct them to a spoiler thread.

[Jigurashi]

She goes berserk and probably takes down a lot of fodder before being dispatched by Jiren. I imagine after her rampage is done, only the truly important characters will remain and things will get less chaotic. That's when stuff like Gohan's teamwork, Freeza and Frost' schemes and Goku trying out his new form will take place.

So she has a big role in getting the action to the point, but not a lot in the grand scheme of things. Just my two cents.

So in a sense Kale is like the turning point of this tournament to things kicking up a notch?

[Kaboom]

Agreed with Asura's sentiment, if not his brusqueness. I'll see about maybe creating a central thread for spoilers discussion or something. But until that happens, at least keep the title of a thread spoiler-free with a courtesy spoiler warning. I've changed this thread's title accordingly.

[omaro34]

This is getting ridiculous. Can you assholes please post all your spoilers in a spoiler thread instead of posting it here with the spoiler in the title? Not cool.

I'm getting rather sick of this shit happening again and again and It'd be nice if the moderators can delete these threads and direct them to a spoiler thread.

Obviously wasn't intentional man. No need to be this upset, they were careless but not assholes.

[Asura]

This is getting ridiculous. Can you assholes please post all your spoilers in a spoiler thread instead of posting it here with the spoiler in the title? Not cool.

I'm getting rather sick of this shit happening again and again and It'd be nice if the moderators can delete these threads and direct them to a spoiler thread.

Obviously wasn't intentional man. No need to be this upset, they were careless but not assholes.

I'm not going to keep remaining calm when I see spoilers over and over and over again. It's really lame, and I don't care whether it was by accident or on purpose, it's just really lame and inconsiderate. It shouldn't take a genius to realize you shouldn't be putting spoilers in your thread topics.

And maybe it's my fault as well for not speaking up on this sooner when things were spoiled every other time (the most recent example I believe was Frost and Freeza's scheming and working together, and then before that Buu falling asleep, and well basically every single time something big is about to happen there's always at least one person posting about it with the spoiler in the thread title. This goes back to the FT arc even)

Agreed with Asura's sentiment, if not his brusqueness. I'll see about maybe creating a central thread for spoilers discussion or something. But until that happens, at least keep the title of a thread spoiler-free with a courtesy spoiler warning. I've changed this thread's title accordingly.

Ah, I went ahead and created a central thread before I saw your post, I apologize if that's not cool to do yet if you were planning something else.

[Draconic]

She goes berserk and probably takes down a lot of fodder before being dispatched by Jiren. I imagine after her rampage is done, only the truly important characters will remain and things will get less chaotic. That's when stuff like Gohan's teamwork, Freeza and Frost' schemes and Goku trying out his new form will take place.

So she has a big role in getting the action to the point, but not a lot in the grand scheme of things. Just my two cents.

So in a sense Kale is like the turning point of this tournament to things kicking up a notch?

Pretty much, yeah. Fits her being marketing material, but also her not really being relevant in the main conflict.