aravinthan wrote:Isn't this supposed to be in spoiler MEGAthread??
Isn't what supposed to be in spoiler MEGAthread? This is the big daddy thread for spoiler discussions
Apologies for the double post
I believe they're referring to viewtopic.php?f=25&t=39157, which despite the fact that week in and week out, we're discussing spoilers, leaks, rumours, and announcements in this very thread.
So MEGAthread In the literal sense...
Well for someone who dosen't know,
This MEGAthread right here is the one to dump your spoiler induced seizure loads..
P.S. You messed up the url, swap those url and written texts position next time
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
Yeah I don't see the point in a separate spoilers thread, for the longest I wanted one but the mod team said it wasn't necessary and now I understand why. It's too messy people are gonna post in here regardless.
If you wanna avoid spoilers avoid this thread. Pretty simple really.
perucho1990 wrote:If you think about it, Jiren tossing out Kale would serve for Caulifla to get character development.
She will admit she was weak for being unable to protect Kale.
I never figured her for the protecting naruto type character..
Knowing her, she decides to put all reason to the side, goes and does something rash and gets beaten immediately because guys here, aren't playing around to humour a child like her
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
What's even the point of this thread besides for spoilers? That other thread seems useless. Maybe if it was only for rants towards spoilers..
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
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Ki Breaker wrote:
I never figured her for the protecting naruto type character..
Knowing her, she decides to put all reason to the side, goes and does something rash and gets beaten immediately because guys here, aren't playing around to humour a child like her
I could see her begging Goku again to at least give her the basics of the SSJB transformation, because she NEEDS it.(She would persuade Goku if she tells her that she wants to be strong in order to protect Kale) She gets an imperfect version of SSJB with a drawback of wasting your stamina.(Basically like Manga SSJB), it wouldnt look that bad.
So if Krillin does kill someone, what would Freeza's reaction be? I could imagine him giving Krillin a pat on the back and asking him how good that felt.
Ki Breaker wrote:
I never figured her for the protecting naruto type character..
Knowing her, she decides to put all reason to the side, goes and does something rash and gets beaten immediately because guys here, aren't playing around to humour a child like her
I could see her begging Goku again to at least give her the basics of the SSJB transformation, because she NEEDS it.(She would persuade Goku if she tells her that she wants to be strong in order to protect Kale) She gets an imperfect version of SSJB with a drawback of wasting your stamina.(Basically like Manga SSJB), it wouldnt look that bad.
I am not a fan of her getting SSB , it might sound good to some on paper, but there isn't a single easy way for it to happen without training for a considerable longer amount of time than under a few minutes when everyone is trying to ring out everyone at that point in time..
This would need careful buildup if they wanted for it to happen, we got no such buildup..
On top of that I am plenty sure they won't show us her getting blue in the tournament, my experience with Dragonball has taught me that much
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
MainJPW wrote:So if Krillin does kill someone, what would Freeza's reaction be? I could imagine him giving Krillin a pat on the back and asking him how good that felt.
Frieza: Hey, we've all thrown our death discs by accident at some point. just be happy you didn't hit yourself... Or my tail.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Ki Breaker wrote:
I am not a fan of her getting SSB , it might sound good to some on paper, but there isn't a single easy way for it to happen without training for a considerable longer amount of time than under a few minutes when everyone is trying to ring out everyone at that point in time..
This would need careful buildup if they wanted for it to happen, we got no such buildup..
On top of that I am plenty sure they won't show us her getting blue in the tournament, my experience with Dragonball has taught me that much
Both Trunks and Gohan reached Blue level after just hours of training but they have the excuse of being hybrids (imo thats the reason Toriyama is excluding both Kid Trunks and Goten because they would become very OP if they train with the Goku/Vegeta/Piccolo).
Caulifla was hyped to be a prodigy with a potential beyond Rensos, I know it wouldve helped if we ever saw Renso fight(in a flashback at least).
I mentioned that she got SSJ2 offscreen, which was why Cabba didnt seem surprised when she transformed to save him from Kale.
I think the whole stamina issue, which was mentioned by Cabba in episode 92 will come into play for Caulifla(if she gets Blue).
MainJPW wrote:So if Krillin does kill someone, what would Freeza's reaction be? I could imagine him giving Krillin a pat on the back and asking him how good that felt.
Frieza: Hey, we've all thrown our death discs by accident at some point. just be happy you didn't hit yourself... Or my tail.
I know right, throwing deadly dicks around is a fond memory of mine It's Intentional
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Ki Breaker wrote:
I never figured her for the protecting naruto type character..
Knowing her, she decides to put all reason to the side, goes and does something rash and gets beaten immediately because guys here, aren't playing around to humour a child like her
I could see her begging Goku again to at least give her the basics of the SSJB transformation, because she NEEDS it.(She would persuade Goku if she tells her that she wants to be strong in order to protect Kale) She gets an imperfect version of SSJB with a drawback of wasting your stamina.(Basically like Manga SSJB), it wouldnt look that bad.
I am not a fan of her getting SSB , it might sound good to some on paper, but there isn't a single easy way for it to happen without training for a considerable longer amount of time than under a few minutes when everyone is trying to ring out everyone at that point in time..
This would need careful buildup if they wanted for it to happen, we got no such buildup..
On top of that I am plenty sure they won't show us her getting blue in the tournament, my experience with Dragonball has taught me that much
Agreed her getting blue needs to be after the tournament not during it.
Ki Breaker wrote:
I am not a fan of her getting SSB , it might sound good to some on paper, but there isn't a single easy way for it to happen without training for a considerable longer amount of time than under a few minutes when everyone is trying to ring out everyone at that point in time..
This would need careful buildup if they wanted for it to happen, we got no such buildup..
On top of that I am plenty sure they won't show us her getting blue in the tournament, my experience with Dragonball has taught me that much
Both Trunks and Gohan reached Blue level after just hours of training but they have the excuse of being hybrids (imo thats the reason Toriyama is excluding both Kid Trunks and Goten because they would become very OP if they train with the Goku/Vegeta/Piccolo).
Caulifla was hyped to be a prodigy with a potential beyond Rensos, I know it wouldve helped if we ever saw Renso fight(in a flashback at least).
I mentioned that she got SSJ2 offscreen, which was why Cabba didnt seem surprised when she transformed to save him from Kale.
I think the whole stamina issue, which was mentioned by Cabba in episode 92 will come into play for Caulifla(if she gets Blue).
Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.
I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
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Ki Breaker wrote:
I never figured her for the protecting naruto type character..
Knowing her, she decides to put all reason to the side, goes and does something rash and gets beaten immediately because guys here, aren't playing around to humour a child like her
I could see her begging Goku again to at least give her the basics of the SSJB transformation, because she NEEDS it.(She would persuade Goku if she tells her that she wants to be strong in order to protect Kale) She gets an imperfect version of SSJB with a drawback of wasting your stamina.(Basically like Manga SSJB), it wouldnt look that bad.
Goku would probably do it just so he could be able to fight her later in the future.
Jigurashi wrote:
Goku would probably do it just so he could be able to fight her later in the future.
Yeah, thats also a good point, Caulifla gets added to Gokus list of sparring partners.
kinisking wrote:
Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.
I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.
In Gohan cases case, he was meditating after sparring with Piccolo, so thats his excuse of reaching "Low-tier" Blue level in Ultimate form. And lets not forget Gohan stated he wants to reach a new transformation.
I wonder when will Gohan use this so called new transformation? Toward the end when Goku needs backup vs Jiren?
Jigurashi wrote:
Goku would probably do it just so he could be able to fight her later in the future.
Yeah, thats also a good point, Caulifla gets added to Gokus list of sparring partners.
kinisking wrote:
Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.
I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.
In Gohan cases case, he was meditating after sparring with Piccolo, so thats his excuse of reaching "Low-tier" Blue level in Ultimate form. And lets not forget Gohan stated he wants to reach a new transformation.
I wonder when will Gohan use this so called new transformation? Toward the end when Goku needs backup vs Jiren?
Never or at the least not in this arc for sure because Gohan has not said anything about getting a new transformation,all he said is he is gonna be strong in his ultimate form
Jigurashi wrote:
Goku would probably do it just so he could be able to fight her later in the future.
Yeah, thats also a good point, Caulifla gets added to Gokus list of sparring partners.
kinisking wrote:
Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.
I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.
In Gohan cases case, he was meditating after sparring with Piccolo, so thats his excuse of reaching "Low-tier" Blue level in Ultimate form. And lets not forget Gohan stated he wants to reach a new transformation.
I wonder when will Gohan use this so called new transformation? Toward the end when Goku needs backup vs Jiren?
Wait, so meditating suddenly means blue tier now ? Has piccolo been holding back all this time ?
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
MainJPW wrote:So if Krillin does kill someone, what would Freeza's reaction be? I could imagine him giving Krillin a pat on the back and asking him how good that felt.
I was imagining Freeza doing his little "Oh!" And then start clapping. I could totally see him doing that. Haha The comedic side of this has a lot of options XD
Jigurashi wrote:
Goku would probably do it just so he could be able to fight her later in the future.
Yeah, thats also a good point, Caulifla gets added to Gokus list of sparring partners.
kinisking wrote:
Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.
I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.
In Gohan cases case, he was meditating after sparring with Piccolo, so thats his excuse of reaching "Low-tier" Blue level in Ultimate form. And lets not forget Gohan stated he wants to reach a new transformation.
I wonder when will Gohan use this so called new transformation? Toward the end when Goku needs backup vs Jiren?
Wait, so meditating suddenly means blue tier now ? Has piccolo been holding back all this time ?
I could have sworn that the show has strongly implied that Gohan and Piccolo have been training on-and-off since the end of the Resurrection F arc. We do see them training, albeit briefly, in Episode 30. And nothing implies that they stopped training after that until the Tournament Of Power is announced and Gohan and Piccolo decide to fast-track Gohan becoming stronger and regaining his peak power as they had limited time to do so.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Jigurashi wrote:
Goku would probably do it just so he could be able to fight her later in the future.
Yeah, thats also a good point, Caulifla gets added to Gokus list of sparring partners.
That would be a nice way of turning around that character from being the arrogant and annoying bitch that she is now to something a little more respectable in the arc after this.
