Jigurashi wrote:
Goku would probably do it just so he could be able to fight her later in the future.
Yeah, thats also a good point, Caulifla gets added to Gokus list of sparring partners.
kinisking wrote:
Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.
I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.
In Gohan cases case, he was meditating after sparring with Piccolo, so thats his excuse of reaching "Low-tier" Blue level in Ultimate form. And lets not forget Gohan stated he wants to reach a new transformation.
I wonder when will Gohan use this so called new transformation? Toward the end when Goku needs backup vs Jiren?
Wait, so meditating suddenly means blue tier now ? Has piccolo been holding back all this time ?
Of course have not seen how he gets stronger when he removes his weights?That means he gets stronger the less clothing he wears,the perv.
In the tournament he is gonna reveal his new form,Naked Piccolo and then after goku gets defeated he is gonna master the new form and become True Naked Piccolo and defeat Jirren.
Lord Beerus wrote:
I could have sworn that the show has strongly implied that Gohan and Piccolo have been training on-and-off since the end of the Resurrection F arc. We do see them training, albeit briefly, in Episode 30. And nothing implies that they stopped training after that until the Tournament Of Power is announced and Gohan and Piccolo decide to fast-track Gohan becoming stronger and regaining his peak power as they had limited time to do so.
They'res been some implications but they'res been implications going the other way too. Piccolo saying hell train Gohans soft body, Gohan having to get his instincts back, and Gohan saying he doesn't fight anymore imply they haven't been training. Plus if they were, it makes Gohans gains in 48 hours versus a year seem even more stupid.
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I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
I'm kinda wondering if the writers will remember Kuririn's killed people before or not, though doing it by accident in a tournament setting would be new.
Lord Beerus wrote:
I could have sworn that the show has strongly implied that Gohan and Piccolo have been training on-and-off since the end of the Resurrection F arc. We do see them training, albeit briefly, in Episode 30. And nothing implies that they stopped training after that until the Tournament Of Power is announced and Gohan and Piccolo decide to fast-track Gohan becoming stronger and regaining his peak power as they had limited time to do so.
They'res been some implications but they'res been implications going the other way too. Piccolo saying hell train Gohans soft body, Gohan having to get his instincts back, and Gohan saying he doesn't fight anymore imply they haven't been training. Plus if they were, it makes Gohans gains in 48 hours versus a year seem even more stupid.
Gohan saying that probably meant he hadn't fought against baddies ever since freeza in rof they have been training piccolo saying that was about how gohan doesn't have the instincts he had as a fighter during the buu saga.
We seen them train in u6 arc and again at the end of future trunks arc.
Whatever wrote: Never or at the least not in this arc for sure because Gohan has not said anything about getting a new transformation,all he said is he is gonna be strong in his ultimate form
Mostly implies that Gohan wants reach a level beyond Mystic(Goku asked him why didnt he turn SSJ). If he unlocks it due to clashing with Goku it would make sense, because thats how Trunks got SSJ Ikari(clashing with Vegeta).
kinisking wrote:
Wait, so meditating suddenly means blue tier now ? Has piccolo been holding back all this time ?
Jiren?
Piccolo isnt a hybrid saiyan, so bad luck for him.
Lord Beerus wrote:
I could have sworn that the show has strongly implied that Gohan and Piccolo have been training on-and-off since the end of the Resurrection F arc. We do see them training, albeit briefly, in Episode 30. And nothing implies that they stopped training after that until the Tournament Of Power is announced and Gohan and Piccolo decide to fast-track Gohan becoming stronger and regaining his peak power as they had limited time to do so.
They'res been some implications but they'res been implications going the other way too. Piccolo saying hell train Gohans soft body, Gohan having to get his instincts back, and Gohan saying he doesn't fight anymore imply they haven't been training. Plus if they were, it makes Gohans gains in 48 hours versus a year seem even more stupid.
Gohan saying that probably meant he hadn't fought against baddies ever since freeza in rof they have been training piccolo saying that was about how gohan doesn't have the instincts he had as a fighter during the buu saga.
We seen them train in u6 arc and again at the end of future trunks arc.
Refresh my memory. What episode did Gohan say he doesn't fight anymore? Even so, Gohan was still making gains while training with Piccolo consider he was able to match SSJ Goku in a sparring match in EP75. The only real obstacle for Gohan was regaining his Ultimate form. And considering that Ultimate Gohan is essentially a transformation now, any previous gains made in his base form multiplied the original strength he tapped into when he regained his Ultimate form more than it did in the past.
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Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
So if a universe has a fighter that gets killed, do you think they'll be allowed to replace that fighter with someone who got elminated since the fighter who was killed wasnt eliminated legitmately?
The_Destroyer wrote:So if a universe has a fighter that gets killed, do you think they'll be allowed to replace that fighter with someone who got eliminated since the fighter who was killed wasn't eliminated legitimately?
We'll have to wait and see. I think It'd be interesting if the Grand Priest has the ability to just resurrect the dead fighter so that they could continue.
precita wrote:I actually wonder if Krillin might be let back into the tournament at some later point. Perhaps his disqualification is only temporary?
Why would that make any sense? Disqualified is disqualified. This tournament is for the sake of the universe survival. I don't think it would be fair to let contestants rejoin.
precita wrote:I actually wonder if Krillin might be let back into the tournament at some later point. Perhaps his disqualification is only temporary?
Why would that make any sense? Disqualified is disqualified. This tournament is for the sake of the universe survival. I don't think it would be fair to let contestants rejoin.
A tournament dictated by the Omni King
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
precita wrote:I actually wonder if Krillin might be let back into the tournament at some later point. Perhaps his disqualification is only temporary?
Why would that make any sense? Disqualified is disqualified. This tournament is for the sake of the universe survival. I don't think it would be fair to let contestants rejoin.
Why would that make any sense? Disqualified is disqualified. This tournament is for the sake of the universe survival. I don't think it would be fair to let contestants rejoin.
A tournament dictated by the Omni King
So...? What does that have to do with anything?
What ever the Omni Kings says goes. On the off chance they really like Krillin because his head is super shiny, and they want him back in, then there probably isn't a whole lot of people that would tell him no.
Kanassa wrote:
A tournament dictated by the Omni King
So...? What does that have to do with anything?
What ever the Omni Kings says goes. On the off chance they really like Krillin because his head is super shiny, and they want him back in, then there probably isn't a whole lot of people that would tell him no.
I disagree. They wanted to see Goku pass his limits with Toppo back at the Exhibition Matches and The Great Priest shot that down. He would likely say something to change their minds, he has that affect on them. The GP seems quite neutral, he wouldn't show favoritism towards U7 like that. If Krillin is out, he's staying out. There's no point in discussing this, we have 9 other characters to worry about. So what if we lose one. We only need 1 survivor at the end anyway. I should mention I hate Krillin, so seeing him out does nothing for me.
MagmonKai wrote:
I disagree. They wanted to see Goku pass his limits with Toppo back at the Exhibition Matches and The Great Priest shot that down. He would likely say something to change their minds, he has that affect on them. The GP seems quite neutral, he wouldn't show favoritism towards U7 like that. If Krillin is out, he's staying out. There's no point in discussing this, we have 9 other characters to worry about. So what if we lose one. We only need 1 survivor at the end anyway. I should mention I hate Krillin, so seeing him out does nothing for me.
Sure, And I agree. There isn't even any reason Zeno would want Krillin back especially. Just clarifying the point that the Omni Kings are powerful enough to get their way. Which could include saving a little bald man, however small a chance that may be.
The only way I can see a disqualification being reversed is if it turns out the guy wasn't actually dead (faked it, or something), and Kuririn isn't so powerful that him being kicked out then re-entering the fight would be a huge turning point for U7. It's possible but it doesn't seem likely.
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precita wrote:I actually wonder if Krillin might be let back into the tournament at some later point. Perhaps his disqualification is only temporary?
Why would that make any sense? Disqualified is disqualified. This tournament is for the sake of the universe survival. I don't think it would be fair to let contestants rejoin.
A tournament dictated by the Omni King
Who has proven to be very impartial despite his liking of Goku. Zen-Oh has also proven time and again that once his mind is made up, you'll have the devil's own work changing it. In fact trying to do so risks your own destruction and even if you can work him around to the idea, as with Bergamo the Omni-King will seemingly set you up in a situation were his will will be played out anyway.
He and the Grand Priest set up the rules with the intention of one universe surviving all this by having the most fighters on the platform. Having disqualification be temporary gives that universe an unfair advantage as they have just killed another universes fighter, which is against the rules, and the only punishment they would receive in this battle of life and death would be a temporary inconvenience that would actually prove beneficial. Because as the battle rages on, with more fighters getting ringed out, a universes that was losing or had no fighters suddenly gets a rested warrior back in the game. The entire idea goes against the rules of the tournament.
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MagmonKai wrote:
I disagree. They wanted to see Goku pass his limits with Toppo back at the Exhibition Matches and The Great Priest shot that down. He would likely say something to change their minds, he has that affect on them. The GP seems quite neutral, he wouldn't show favoritism towards U7 like that. If Krillin is out, he's staying out. There's no point in discussing this, we have 9 other characters to worry about. So what if we lose one. We only need 1 survivor at the end anyway. I should mention I hate Krillin, so seeing him out does nothing for me.
