How strong could full-blooded Earthlings get?

[Steven Bloodriver]

Could Humans naturally reach the strength of 120 million like Full Power Frieza?

[Ki Breaker]

Let's say as strong as tien, because he is currently the strongest earthling who hasn't had his potential unlocked thus qualifies the natural rule, who I am sure isn't as strong as namek freeza..

Also, this is basically a strength question mate.. asking it in the strength thread would grant you much more educated responses..

[Fizzer]

I'd say that between the start of Super and now full-blooded humans have already become much stronger than full power Freeza from DBZ.

From the end of the Freeza arc to the end of the Buu arc, I'd say Krillin and Ten peaked at about the same level as Vegeta when he first came to Earth, maybe around 20,000, with Yamcha and Roshi being much less than that. Humans basically couldn't keep up with Saiyans or Namekians at this point, even ultra powerful ones like Krillin who'd had his potential drawn out. At the start of Super these characters were still all about that level. By the Universe Survival arc Krillin, Ten, Roshi, along with Piccolo and 18, are probably all in the billions, at the very least they are much stronger than Super Buu.

[MagmonKai]

Didn't Krillin get to like 75,000 during the Namek arc?

[Fizzer]

Didn't Krillin get to like 75,000 during the Namek arc?

I don't think a number was ever put on it. He went from Raditz level pre-powerup to being some level weaker than Vegeta and Gohan, who were both weaker than Recoome.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Didn't Krillin get to like 75,000 during the Namek arc?

I don't think a number was ever put on it. He went from Raditz level pre-powerup to being some level weaker than Vegeta and Gohan, who were both weaker than Recoome.

Yes during that fight they were weaker than Recoome. But before Frieza showed up and right before Piccolo showed up their powers were implied to keep growing. The 75,000 was after the Recoome fight. Both Daiz and V-jump are sources that put Krillin at 75,000. Gohan likely was somewhere between 100,000 and 150,000 after his zenkai boosts.

[Marco Polo]

As strong as Uub.

[Zagacious]

I think in an arc or two we'll see the humans or maybe Piccolo and Uub training with Whis, hopefully unlocking god ki.
Tien isn't a human but he doesn't seem to be that much stronger than Krillin or Roshi (he did seem way stronger in DBZ, but now he seems weaker than he was)

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

I think in an arc or two we'll see the humans or maybe Piccolo and Uub training with Whis, hopefully unlocking god ki.
Tien isn't a human but he doesn't seem to be that much stronger than Krillin or Roshi (he did seem way stronger in DBZ, but now he seems weaker than he was)

Not much stronger than Roshi? There is quite a gap between Krillin and Roshi.

[Gray Riders]

It's worth pointing out the earthlings stopped putting any real effort into their training after Namek. They didn't bother trying heavy gravity or entering the Room of Spirit and Time. So, since we never see a full earthling really put 100% into it after Namek it's hard to say what their real maximum is.
I imagine it's theoretically possible for a pure earthling to break 120,000,000, but since the Saiyans base power hadn't surpassed him by Battle of Gods it may not realistically happen. However, since the earthlings got vastly more out of training with Kami it's possible they'd randomly get stronger than Namek era Freeza if they did sufficently good training.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

It's worth pointing out the earthlings stopped putting any real effort into their training after Namek.

I could imagine the 3 years before the Androids they may have put effort in their training. Either their planet gets taken over by Androids or they train hard. I'm pretty sure everyone got the picture.

The difference with other later arcs is that no one could predict their next enemies. Buu was a mystery to everyone except Supreme Kai. Even the Saiyans likely moderately trained during the 7 years after Cell. I don't think Goku or Vegeta's SSJ1 powers were more than 30-50% stronger than 7 years ago. So I wouldn't hold much higher standards for the humans in late DBZ.

We've seen a couple times in Super, examples of almost every character having more of a motivation/drive because of a current threat or a threat about to happen. That includes the Saiyans. While I agree with some of this comment about effort and all, but this doesn't just include the humans. It can easily be argued the other way.

[Gray Riders]

I could imagine the 3 years before the Androids they may have put effort in their training. Either their planet gets taken over by Androids or they train hard. I'm pretty sure everyone got the picture.

They trained, but they didn't push themselves by trying something new and difficult like high-gravity, or training with a Super Saiyan.

[YajirobiTheGreat]

Probably God level with the right training, amplifiers, unlocking of potential, fusions, and special items for a generic human.

For a freak like Uub? Can probably be as strong as anyone.

[precita]

My guess is Krillin and Tenshinhan are about as strong as third form Freeza on Namek.

Yamcha is probably around Recoome level, maybe Burter/Jeice if we're being generous.

[JulianStyles]

You can make a case that Krillin and Tien right now are around Gotenks level.

[JulianStyles]

My guess is Krillin and Tenshinhan are about as strong as third form Freeza on Namek.

Yamcha is probably around Recoome level, maybe Burter/Jeice if we're being generous.

Thats impossible. How would Krillin give SSB Goku a struggle in a Kamehameha blast. Do you undersrand the gap between 3rd form Frieza and say SS right now?

[TheOne]

I'd say that between the start of Super and now full-blooded humans have already become much stronger than full power Freeza from DBZ.

From the end of the Freeza arc to the end of the Buu arc, I'd say Krillin and Ten peaked at about the same level as Vegeta when he first came to Earth, maybe around 20,000, with Yamcha and Roshi being much less than that. Humans basically couldn't keep up with Saiyans or Namekians at this point, even ultra powerful ones like Krillin who'd had his potential drawn out. At the start of Super these characters were still all about that level. By the Universe Survival arc Krillin, Ten, Roshi, along with Piccolo and 18, are probably all in the billions, at the very least they are much stronger than Super Buu.

Ummmm... What world are you living in? The humans are nowhere near Frieza in Namek

There has been zero evidence that any of them have gotten to that point.

You're telling me that Krillin, can fight Frieza from Namek saga? The same guy who took 7 years off from fighting, briefly picked it up when fighting Buu, retired from fighting AGAIN, and starts "lifting weights" to get back in shape and is now as strong as Frieza use to be?

You've gotta be kidding me man.

[TheOne]

As strong as Uub.

Uub is a reincarnation. While he's 100% human, genetically he's got a lot more room to grow than everyone else.

[precita]

As strong as Uub.

Uub is a reincarnation. While he's 100% human, genetically he's got a lot more room to grow than everyone else.

And also it's pretty much stated Uub is already as strong as Kid Buu since he's his reincarnation, which already puts him above SSJ3 level to begin with...and that's without training.

[TheOne]

As strong as Uub.

Uub is a reincarnation. While he's 100% human, genetically he's got a lot more room to grow than everyone else.

And also it's pretty much stated Uub is already as strong as Kid Buu since he's his reincarnation, which already puts him above SSJ3 level to begin with...and that's without training.

Yeah so he definitely doesn't count haha. Uub isn't a normal human so he can't be include in the human conversation