Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Boo Machine » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:16 am

perucho1990 wrote:Oh damn thats the 2nd lowest rating ever in DBS, I guess as some people pointed it out, the japanese fans didnt like the forced drama because Goku and Vegeta couldve defeated U9 faster.
I don't think that's how that works. They would have had to known about the content of the episode before hand and then choosing not to watch for that to be the reason, wouldn't they?
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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:20 am

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I don't think that's how that works. They would have had to known about the content of the episode before hand and then choosing not to watch for that to be the reason.
Well maybe they found Episode 98 preview not interesting because it was a very predictable Goku and Vegeta would solo U9, or they just didnt find U9 interesting.

In contrast, OP had Luffy vs Cracker, but it had far less forced drama because Cracker is a Yonkou Commander.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Boo Machine » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:23 am

perucho1990 wrote:
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I don't think that's how that works. They would have had to known about the content of the episode before hand and then choosing not to watch for that to be the reason.
Well maybe they found Episode 98 preview not interesting because it was a very predictable Goku and Vegeta would solo U9, or they just didnt find U9 interesting.

In contrast, OP had Luffy vs Cracker, but it had far less forced drama because Cracker is a Yonkou Commander.
Well that sounds more reasonable, but I think it's more like One piece has a manga that can tell people what to look forward to, where DBS just kind of has to go on it's previews and leaks, which doesn't say much. So if nothing sounds exciting then it might just be skipped.

I don't think forced Drama has anything to do with it. At least not for the ratings.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Yomi » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:42 am

perucho1990 wrote:
Boo Machine wrote:
I don't think that's how that works. They would have had to known about the content of the episode before hand and then choosing not to watch for that to be the reason.
Well maybe they found Episode 98 preview not interesting because it was a very predictable Goku and Vegeta would solo U9, or they just didnt find U9 interesting.

In contrast, OP had Luffy vs Cracker, but it had far less forced drama because Cracker is a Yonkou Commander.
This whole forced drama point seems to be projection. Maybe they just didn't like the last episode and its preview.
Can't really pin all of your problems with the episode onto the people who decided not to watch it.
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Post by ChaosLordBrandon » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:53 am

Despite the fact super is in it's usually 7 spot people will say that these rating are terrible and super is about to be canceled like do every single other week for the past two years.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:02 am

The NEP having a lot of reused animation might have hurt the ratings.
Also it was the 4th lowest, not second. The ratings bounce around a lot, I wouldn't be surprised if the next episode is like 6.0.

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Post by Sodhi » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:04 am

I agree with ArchedThunder. It was probably the NEP that hurt the ratings a little bit.

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Post by HeroR » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:11 am

perucho1990 wrote:Oh damn thats the 2nd lowest rating ever in DBS, I guess as some people pointed it out, the japanese fans didnt like the forced drama because Goku and Vegeta couldve defeated U9 faster.
How would they even know that without watching the episode?
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Post by precita » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:48 am

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perucho1990 wrote:Oh damn thats the 2nd lowest rating ever in DBS, I guess as some people pointed it out, the japanese fans didnt like the forced drama because Goku and Vegeta couldve defeated U9 faster.
How would they even know that without watching the episode?
Yeah, I don't know why people keep laughably saying things like "Well it wasn't an interesting episode" when nobody, not even the Japanese, know the content of the episode before it airs.

How the hell would anyone know if the ep is good or not before it even airs? All you have to go on is the 30 second preview.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:14 am

Everything dropped % this week except One Piece and Precure so it is safe to say they were the exceptions.

Chibi Maruko-chan droped 1.7% compared to Super 1.2% drop. It also dropped 3 places whereas Super only just the one... Yet Super is the disaster here? Come on now. It's in still the top 7. A disaster would be if it dropped out completely but even then not a big disaster as the ratings numbers are arbitrary to Super they don't matter. Kai 1.0 is proof of this had good ratings but did frankly shit it seems where it needed to matter and thus eventually got canned after the Cell arc.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:33 am

Hmm. Wasn't expecting the main tournament to drop below a 5.0 at any stage, so that's a disappointing rating to achieve. Super will bounce next week like it always does.

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Post by Bullza » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:08 am

Surprising considering that One Piece went up this week.

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Post by Shinda Forever » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:37 am

Obviously, the first episode of the tournament was so bad that Japanese fans decided to skip another terrible episode, furthermore, the second episode (98) was horrible as well and nowadays bad news travel fast.
Lord Beerus wrote:Hmm. Wasn't expecting the main tournament to drop below a 5.0 at any stage, so that's a disappointing rating to achieve. Super will bounce next week like it always does.
I doubt it.

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Post by emperior » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:03 pm

That's a little disappointing though 98 preview was made up of bank animation so it's probable that, coupled with the leaks, the fans weren't expecting anything new to happen, and frankly that's how it was.
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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:03 pm

Shinda Forever wrote:Obviously, the first episode of the tournament was so bad that Japanese fans decided to skip another terrible episode, furthermore, the second episode (98) was horrible as well and nowadays bad news travel fast.


I doubt it.
Animation has nothing to do with it, the last OP episodes barely had any animation yet it still hitting above 6s, what matters is the content.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:09 pm

I suspect those who left will be back once the arc approaches its climax. This feels like the way viewers drop off One Piece's anime during the slow parts and return when big plot points happen.
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Post by Shinda Forever » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:38 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
Shinda Forever wrote:Obviously, the first episode of the tournament was so bad that Japanese fans decided to skip another terrible episode, furthermore, the second episode (98) was horrible as well and nowadays bad news travel fast.


I doubt it.
Animation has nothing to do with it, the last OP episodes barely had any animation yet it still hitting above 6s, what matters is the content.
Who talked about animation? I didn't. I was referring to the content.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by perucho1990 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:49 pm

Shinda Forever wrote:
Animation has nothing to do with it, the last OP episodes barely had any animation yet it still hitting above 6s, what matters is the content.
Who talked about animation? I didn't. I was referring to the content.[/quote]

You mentioned the animation being recycled in the last episodes and that was your main complain iirc.

Krillin/18 episdoe should do better, Japan has always liked them

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Shinda Forever » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:35 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
Shinda Forever wrote:
Animation has nothing to do with it, the last OP episodes barely had any animation yet it still hitting above 6s, what matters is the content.
Who talked about animation? I didn't. I was referring to the content.
You mentioned the animation being recycled in the last episodes and that was your main complain iirc.

Krillin/18 episdoe should do better, Japan has always liked them
No, i didn't. You are confusing me with someone else. We will see if Krillin/18 duo will help to improve the fighting scenes.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by precita » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:20 pm

Not that it would happen, but I'm sure Super's ratings can be as low as the 2.0's like Naruto's is/was and still go on for years to come just because of merchandize revenue.

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