Reasons why it's likely the universes are not being erased, at least not permanently from a writer perspective

[precita]

So as we all know the universes are being erased in the tournament. However at the end of this tournament, assuming our universe wins, then U7 would be the only one remaining (besides the 4 that didn't compete), and the other 7 universes in the tournament would be gone forever. Here's why it's obvious these universes are not gone for good, and will either be brought back with the Super Dragon Balls, combined into U7, or whatever else:

1. They didn't design 12 Gods of Destruction just to get rid of all but 4 for good. If the Gods of Destruction were spared being erased like the Angels were, I could see this being permanent as they could still be used to make new universes, but they're getting rid of the Gods too. Do you really think they designed all these Gods of Destruction just to get rid of 7 of them, including Champa, permanently this early in Super's history? Talk about a loss of story potential.

2. Popularity of other universe characters. U6 in particular has had a lot of important characters introduced like Hit, Caulifa, Kale, Cabba, Frost, Champa, etc. I don't believe for a second Toei will get rid of all these characters permanently after this arc. Add that along with Toppo, Jiren, and other important fighters for the other universes, it again would be a complete waste of story potential to see all these characters axed forever at the end of this arc.

3. It's too mean spirited or dark for Dragonball. Are we seriously going to believe trillions upon trillions of lives will be erased forever, just like that? Goku is fine with it? The writers are with with presenting this in a franchise like Dragonball where the dead are always brought back to life for happy endings? Future Trunks' universe being erased is one thing because it's for that one specific arc and timeline, but not 7 different universes in the current timeline.

4. We're too early in Super's lifespan. I fully expect Super to last at least 200 something episodes, most likely more. If this was "late" in the series life where we all thought the show was on the verge of ending, I'd understand. But the show is only 2 years old. Again the waste of story potential would be huge.

What do you think?

[GodKaio-Ken]

I think this topic has been discussed to its brink but oh well.

I actually think they may bring those universe back but they shouldnt. I dont think the Super Dragon Balls should be able to bring back things erased from the fabric of the cosmos itself. These people arent even dead in DB world...their very exidtence has been taken.

I also think a play of...oh well we were never really erasing them chuckle chuckle would be lame.

[Kanious]

I think this topic has been discussed to its brink but oh well.

I actually think they may bring those universe back but they shouldnt. I dont think the Super Dragon Balls should be able to bring back things erased from the fabric of the cosmos itself. These people arent even dead in DB world...their very exidtence has been taken.

I also think a play of...oh well we were never really erasing them chuckle chuckle would be lame.

but it was implied that Super Shenron can grant ANY wish. But after what happened in the previous arc, i don't doubt that there is a possibility that only one universe will survive and the others will be permanently erased... this would be dark, sad and i hope it doesn't happen

[Pluto]

You know, the point with character waste, we have seen characters being talked about, with high importance, yet we've never seen 'em. Zarma for once, and whoever deals with patenting stuff (wtf?).

Long story short, a mature god is about to drop by and beat its kid(s) the shit out and hopefully punish grand nanny

[GodKaio-Ken]

I think this topic has been discussed to its brink but oh well.

I actually think they may bring those universe back but they shouldnt. I dont think the Super Dragon Balls should be able to bring back things erased from the fabric of the cosmos itself. These people arent even dead in DB world...their very exidtence has been taken.

I also think a play of...oh well we were never really erasing them chuckle chuckle would be lame.

but it was implied that Super Shenron can grant ANY wish. But after what happened in the previous arc, i don't doubt that there is a possibility that only one universe will survive and the others will be permanently erased... this would be dark, sad and i hope it doesn't happen

Maybe its presumed he can because hes never gone against Zeno. It would be incredibly rare enough to not be eorth mentioning.

Plus if they are really limitless they can kill Zeno right? That seems really lame.

Even if they can I just find it to be illogical story telling.

[Akyon]

3. It's too mean spirited or dark for Dragonball. Are we seriously going to believe trillions upon trillions of lives will be erased forever, just like that? Goku is fine with it? The writers are with with presenting this in a franchise like Dragonball where the dead are always brought back to life for happy endings? Future Trunks' universe being erased is one thing because it's for that one specific arc and timeline, but not 7 different universes in the current timeline.

Whilst I agree with most points I feel like number 3 was proven incorrect the moment Zamasu took over the universe after Trunks presumes a victory, murdered everyone bar him and Mai from that universe(including Yajirobe, Eighter and Turtle, characters we have history with) and then Zeno shows up and permenantly destroys not only Zamasu's unholy universe, but the souls of those friends of Trunks and Mai in the afterlife so that they can never be brought back.

[JoeCapricorn]

I think at some point the erasure of Universes will wear on our main cast - it will fill Universe 11 with rage and Universe 7 with despair.

I am very interested in the reaction Lord Beerus will have to seeing his brother being erased.

[DainIronfoot]

I think at some point the erasure of Universes will wear on our main cast - it will fill Universe 11 with rage and Universe 7 with despair.

I am very interested in the reaction Lord Beerus will have to seeing his brother being erased.

I agree,

It'll set the tone going forward to future arcs, though I don't think they'd get too dark with it. As for the Universes, I still have a hunch that by the end of the arc they may possibly be brought back.

[TheOne]

What's most likely going to happen is they'll wish everyone back and for everyone to reside in U7. It'd be a little cramped, but Definitely doable for sure.

They have mentioned how little life there is in U7. Maybe this will bring U7s mortal level wayyyy up to get closer to the remaining universes.

Naturally this would probably strip some of the Gods of Destructions of their power. Maybe causing Beerus to be the big cheese around. Although, I think it'd be cool to see Beerus out of the God of Destruction position and turned it a regular z fighter.

[Akyon]

What's most likely going to happen is they'll wish everyone back and for everyone to reside in U7. It'd be a little cramped, but Definitely doable for sure.

They have mentioned how little life there is in U7. Maybe this will bring U7s mortal level wayyyy up to get closer to the remaining universes.

Naturally this would probably strip some of the Gods of Destructions of their power. Maybe causing Beerus to be the big cheese around. Although, I think it'd be cool to see Beerus out of the God of Destruction position and turned it a regular z fighter.

If Beerus is in charge...hoo boy, that's going to REALLY cause some friction for Champa AND Quitela.

Not that I imagine the others would be overly pleased either since they may still blame Beerus for allowing Son Goku to set this all into motion to begin with. Sidra may be relieved to just not be dead, or he's REALLY going to hold a grudge. Definitely some fun potential there.

[Hit!!]

I hope they all stay erased.. It will finally give meaning to death in Dragon Ball.

[Basako]

They are cool, they'll be wished back. Zeno will permit it, Goku will convince him somehow.

[Lionel]

It's not like the possibility of these characters making an appearance in some other variety is gone. Only the main timeline's iteration of the universes is at stake. We know of at least two other timelines who's multiversal cast may still be alive (Cell and the fourth unseen timelines). The divergent timeline where Black originated may have suffered a blow since he mentioned having killed various gods, and presumably ningen populations, before moving on to Future Trunks' timeline.

[SSJ YUSUKE]

Universe 9 was only erased on spot because all their fighters were defeated. It's possible that every Universe might have a few fighters standing at the end and perhaps Goku or whichever Universe wins with the most fighters standing might convince Zeno to not erase the Universes at the end of the tournament.

[TheMikado]

While I completed I agree with you that the universes will not be permanently erased from a narrative perspective, I believe in a much wider narrative reset. As I said before I believe the Super Dragon Balls will be used to wish that Goku had never met Beerus and thus the chain of events of Super never took place. This makes sense from both a narrative and business perspective because:

1) The power inflation has rocketed sky high. Toriyama, when working on BoG and RoF had not envisioned them as an ongoing serialized series.

2) The story lines and narrative do not reflect a serialized work. Just like translating a book to a movie does not always work well and needs to be adapted properly. The same holds for transferring a movie to a series. Super is not the first show to fail narratively in this regard.

3) It's an easy reboot. Basically a way to reboot without cries that it disturbed Toriyama's original canon.

4) It free's them from the constrains of EOZ. Right now everything plays in between that time frame. There must be a reason for that.

5) It writes them out of a corner. Right now we know what the end game is. Its Zeno. We've already seen him wipe out a universe level threat already. And with Goku basically ascending to God of Destruction level power, who in all the universes could he possible challenge? We have the GoDs, the Angels, Grand Priest, and Zeno. That's about it in terms of the power scale. Any threat would from here on out would need to have multiple universal destruction powers which the GoDs cannot handle... so narratively they are in a bit of a corner.

6) The can still make GT "fit". This is the big one. Super is first and foremost a Toei product with Toriyama's input. NOT the other way around. If Toei wants Broly, Toei gets Broly. If Toei wants GT, Toei gets GT. The fact of the matter is its an already produced show which literally costs Toei nothing but generates a lot of money. Despite claims on quality GT as a product is incredibly profitable for Toei, even to this day. Everything they sell regarding it is 100% profit.

Narratively, and from a business standpoint the simpliest, easiest thing to do is a reboot using the Super Dragonballs. They already have the plot device ready and waiting, they just have to pull the trigger. Once they do they could reboot into a Time Patrol series where Trunks has ongoing various scenarios or arcs which are somewhat self contained. This would allow them to bring in characters from any series and match them however they please. They could explore multiple timelines as well as universes freely without worrying about disturbing "canon". They are already destroying the universes. Narratively they have to roll it all back which almost every fan is in agreement with. My claim is about how far they will roll it all back. Now what I will say is because this all makes sense to do, it probably won't happen unless an executive specifically orders it because no one seems invested enough to care about making sure the narrative is coherent.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

They permanently erased Trunks' universe, don't know why people think they're gonna pussyfoot here. U9 is gone and it's staying that way same for any subsequent universe.

[Fizzer]

This will absolutely get turned on its head. Hopefully not by anything as predictable as the Super Dragon Balls bringing back the universes and Zeno just accepting it.

It wouldn't surprise me if Zeno is actually just the young child of some higher being who popped out for a couple of hours (a few billion years in human time - piffle) and left him playing a game at being the omniking with his babysitter the Grand Priest. Mummy comes home and sees what a mess he's made and sorts things out.

[Ki Breaker]

^ Yeah, zeno looks acts and feels like a child..
Why in the world is he the omni king is a mystery..
Shouldn't the king have some kind of intelligence and special ability for the job to take this position, zeno wants to play all the time and that's it..

Kais have creation, gods of destruction have a lot of power and hakai to destroy stuff, angels have neutral nature and no need for sleep to be able to do their job, even earth kami has lookout and can watch over earth..
What does zeno do or posses besides erasure.. is that all that's needed to manage a universe? Keep erasing and end up in a void when nothing is left?

Zeno should either have creation of universe power or he has parents who manage the universe in reality

[Low Tone G]

I think universes 7&6(for the sake of popular characters and for the sake of super DBs) and U11&U2 should be spared in the end.. These were the hyped-up universes and the opening features them the most.

I personally don't have interest in U3(machines), U4(a rat GoD) and U10(Gowasu is kind of dumb and Rumooshi is not sympathetic)...

[Shinda Forever]

I think at some point the erasure of Universes will wear on our main cast - it will fill Universe 11 with rage and Universe 7 with despair.

I am very interested in the reaction Lord Beerus will have to seeing his brother being erased.

Who says u6 will be erased? Have you lost your faith in Hitto sama da?