Which was a darker moment?

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

Goku Black murdering the Son family or Zeno destroying Universe 9?

[Grimlock]

Goku Black murdering Chi-Chi and Goten. Chi-Chi's scream gives me chills and a feeling of pity that only Universe 6 destruction would be able to match it.

[Jigurashi]

Th erasure of Universe 9 easily imo. You have Rou trying to plead for his life with Zen-chan, Sidra accepting his fate, and their fighters with horrified looks on their faces. Everything gets erased and you're left with Mojito with his sinister grin that symbolizes his freedom from Sidra and Rou, and then finally you have Goku glare at Daishinkan with him just shooting a smug ass smile in reply.

[MaskedRider]

Honestly I think Universe 9 and its inhabitants being erased by Zeno is more dark. Don't get me wrong, Black killing Goku's wife and child is brutal but it felt less due to it being personal with Goku. Zeno, with his child-like attitude erasing an entire universe and showing no mercy while erasing all that inhabited (without them even knowing it going to happen) does not sit right with me. Even those that were aware of them being erased at the moment it was happening was " "

If you said Zamasu's becoming the incarnation of his justice obliterating the lives of the inhabitants of Earth, this may have been tricky for me to answer for Mai's reaction was 100%.

[Ki Breaker]

Both failed to convey any kind of supposed darkness to me..
ChiChi getting Killed isn't something bad neither did Goku's rage do anything, he went back to yossha mode soon enough.. When zeno did his stuff there was nobody left in the timeline ( at the very least on earth ), true darkness was never a part of Dragonball, it did come pretty close in namek and buu's human extinction attack moments though..

[Sin]

The Universe 9 erasure, but then that is overshadowed by future Zeno erasing the entirety of future Universe 7 (and who knows, maybe even the other universes too). I still can't wrap my head around that, what was the point of it all, Future Trunks was always fighting for a future that in the end didn't matter since it probably suffered a worse fat from Zeno than from Zamasu/Black. And now Future Trunks is stuck in a timeline that isn't his own, what will even happen to him when he dies? Will he go to his own timelines afterlife or this new ones? To me that is dark.

[aravinthan]

For me, both of them were dark, still it is not the darkest thing. Zeno destroying future trunks timeline was dark. Yes, think about mai, bulma, trunks, goku and vegeta. They fought hard still it became absolute annihilation.

[SansrivaaL]

I felt crushed when Black murdered Goku,Chichi and Goten than Zeno erasing U9, I have more of a connection with characters that I know than new ones and an unknown universe, plus Rou's bitchy so I never really took the U9's destruction as something dark, Goku starring at GP with a serious face and GP looking at him back with a smile was more eerie, and the sad part about that is we all know Goku's just gonna go back to his wakuwaku mode like he never gave that serious look and saw a universe go boom.

[MisteryOne]

The Universe 9 erasure, but then that is overshadowed by future Zeno erasing the entirety of future Universe 7 (and who knows, maybe even the other universes too). I still can't wrap my head around that, what was the point of it all, Future Trunks was always fighting for a future that in the end didn't matter since it probably suffered a worse fat from Zeno than from Zamasu/Black. And now Future Trunks is stuck in a timeline that isn't his own, what will even happen to him when he dies? Will he go to his own timelines afterlife or this new ones? To me that is dark.

He can't go to the afterlife of his original timeline. It was also part of his universe. It's gone, just like Future Gohan and Future Goku, etc.

[HybridSaiyan]

Both weren't even that dark. We didn't even see Black Kill Chi-Chi or Goten on screen. If it showed him stab through her chest or something, then yeah but as usual Toei tend to hide away from such violence nowadays.

Now Super Buu exploding in that fodders guys mouth was extremely dark.

[TheOne]

I think Zamasu murdering Gokus family was harder to watch than U9 getting erased.

I actually have an attachment to the family.

[Ki Breaker]

Both failed to convey any kind of supposed darkness to me..
ChiChi getting Killed isn't something bad neither did Goku's rage do anything, he went back to yossha mode soon enough.. When zeno did his stuff there was nobody left in the timeline ( at the very least on earth ), true darkness was never a part of Dragonball, it did come pretty close in namek and buu's human extinction attack moments though..

I fucked up..
I assumed it's trunks universe destruction and forgot zeno just destroyed universe 9 as well because, well it was pretty underwhelming..
My answer dosen't change though

[Kanious]

I think that the destruction of mortals by Zamasu in the Future, and Zeno obliterating all 12 universes there, including heaven and hell was way more darker, but Zeno destroying U9 was too

[Lord Beerus]

Both a quite dark moments, but I give the edge to Goku Black killing Chi Chi and Goten. Becuase it's more eerie in the fact that you don't actually see it happen. I appreciate that approach. It's remind me a lot of old-school horror/thriller movies where you're left to your imagination as to wonder how a horrific even went down. In the case with Goku Black, you just see him charge at Goten and Chi Chi as they scream in horror and the scene cuts to black and you're thinking as to how horrifically he used his ki sword to butcher them down.

Zeno erasing Universe 9 is downright chilling. Especially because of how upbeat Zeno(s), Grand Preist and Mojito are the whole thing.

But nothing will top Zamasu wiping out the remaining earthlings on Future Trunks world and Zeno wiping out the multiverse in Future Trunks' timeline. I mean, it's not just losing several universe but losing the literal afterlife as well. You're essentially retconned out of existence. It's a freighting thought.

[Akyon]

I'll give Universe 9 the edge, but it could have been a lot darker.

Theoretically that specific Goten and Chi-Chi could be brought back with Earth's Dragonballs in that timeline. Universe 9 MIGHT be restored, but we're not sure if the Super Dragonballs can even reverse Zeno's actions.

It could have been a LOT worse though. I think if the Trio De Dangers had been concious I'd of been a lot more torn up seeing their faces. Had we focused on them a little more in the build up to this episode, with them being treated less like a hopeless joke, it would have easily been the darker moment.

...Zamasu and Zeno destroying Trunks' timeline was still the darkest moment overall though by a wide margin.

[Torturephile]

Seeing a god with warped views about mortals switch bodies with a strong mortal, teleport to where that strong mortal is and kill him in front of his family, then kill his family, is messed up. However, the epitome of a powerful child times god two with near-total disregard of life wiping out an entire universe is, to me, more messed up. The former may be more impacting to some due to their attachment to the characters killed, while the latter not as much as almost all of universe 9 has not been focused on outside of the Trio de Dangers, gods of creation and destruction, and its Marilyn Manson-looking angel.

[omaro34]

The U9 erasure only because of the angel of U9 smiling afterwards. That made the scene much more dark than what it was.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I think the Goku Black scene was darker. We actually had a description of murder while making others watch.

What happened to U9 was dark too but more impersonal. It actually felt more "disturbing and creepy" than dark to me thinking about it.

[avasatu]

Stuff like this makes me think Toriyama is finally heading to the point the show eventually needs to go anyway: overuse or misuse of the dragon balls/ manipulation of natural laws causes extremely depraved phenomena. Old kai hints at this towards the end of z, Beerus and Whis during super, and we all as viewers have been wondering it since episode 1. Why bother saving the world when death just puts you in paradise with everyone anyway? Answer: really really dark consequences.

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

I think the Goku Black scene was darker. We actually had a description of murder while making others watch.

What happened to U9 was dark too but more impersonal. It actually felt more "disturbing and creepy" than dark to me thinking about it.

Agreed, I think it was because we knew more about these characters that I felt like it had an impact.