The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[AvatarReiko]

Merged Zamasu(Manga & Anime) vs Beerus

[Ki Breaker]

Merged Zamasu(Manga & Anime) vs Beerus

Berrus loses..
I remember there being a line where its said even berrus cannot defeat an immortal merged Zamasu..
This was said by whis after all was done I believe

[Bullza]

Basil vs Lavender

[Helios518]

Strongest opponent All might in his prime can beat

Even 21st Tenkaichi Budokai Roshi would destroy Prime All MIght due to his moon-busting feat. If you believe that the moon-busting is an outlier, then maybe Young Piccolo Daimao.

[spoiler]We don't know much more about Prime All MIght besides he could've defeat Noumu with 5 punches as oppose to over 300 and that current All Might is probably town busting.[/spoiler]

[Ki Breaker]

We don't know much more about Prime All MIght besides he could've defeat Noumu with 5 punches as oppose to over 300 and that current All Might is probably town busting.

This Noumu ,was able to basically nullify all physical damage by absorption and come out unharmed..
That guy was beaten by physical attacks, which makes his claims of prime power extreme..

Dude punched once and the freaking weather changed and this was after he was seriously wounded, lost most of his power and wasn't serious..
His power at prime should make him compete with raditz at the very least..

All might can't be judged based on "city busting" or other busting feats, his power works differently, extreme resilience and raw strength..

[dragon boss z]

Basil vs Lavender

With poison Lavender, without Basil.

[Helios518]

1) This Noumu ,was able to basically nullify all physical damage by absorption and come out unharmed..
That guy was beaten by physical attacks, which makes his claims of prime power extreme..

2) Dude punched once and the freaking weather changed and this was after he was seriously wounded, lost most of his power and wasn't serious..
His power at prime should make him compete with raditz at the very least..

3) All might can't be judged based on "city busting" or other busting feats, 4) his power works differently, extreme resilience and raw strength..

1) It was made a point by All Might that Noumu doesn't have Shock Negation/Nullification and only Shock Absorption. So no he doesn't "nullify all physical damage" and has a limit. [spoiler][/spoiler].

2) All Might used 100% to change the weather, so it's far from not serious. This is shown when Midoriya flashed back to that scene in the Noumu fight [spoiler][/spoiler] and in the guide book it mentions it as well. [spoiler][/spoiler]

3) Why not? he's just a normal speedy brick character. That category of characters are the easiest to fit into categories like that.

4) "Extreme resilience and raw strength" just so happens to be the key component to 99% of all Dragon Ball Character's move-set. If Dragon Ball would have a motto it would "Be faster, be stronger, and be more durable".

[Ki Breaker]

1) This Noumu ,was able to basically nullify all physical damage by absorption and come out unharmed..
That guy was beaten by physical attacks, which makes his claims of prime power extreme..

2) Dude punched once and the freaking weather changed and this was after he was seriously wounded, lost most of his power and wasn't serious..
His power at prime should make him compete with raditz at the very least..

3) All might can't be judged based on "city busting" or other busting feats, 4) his power works differently, extreme resilience and raw strength..

1) It was made a point by All Might that Noumu doesn't have Shock Negation/Nullification and only Shock Absorption. So no he doesn't "nullify all physical damage" and has a limit. [spoiler][/spoiler].

2) All Might used 100% to change the weather, so it's far from not serious. This is shown when Midoriya flashed back to that scene in the Noumu fight [spoiler][/spoiler] and in the guide book it mentions it as well. [spoiler][/spoiler]

3) Why not? he's just a normal speedy brick character. That category of characters are the easiest to fit into categories like that.

4) "Extreme resilience and raw strength" just so happens to be the key component to 99% of all Dragon Ball Character's move-set. DB right now resolves fights like "Be faster, be stronger, and be more durable".

I am not able to explain myself well here of the conditions of the fight I suppose..
Your 4th point says you didn't understand it..

Also

1) It was made a point by All Might that Noumu doesn't have Shock Negation/Nullification and only Shock Absorption. So no he doesn't "nullify all physical damage" and has a limit.

The first thing I wrote mentions this

1) This Noumu ,was able to basically nullify all physical damage by absorption and come out unharmed..

I completely forgot he used his 100℅ to change the weather, but point stands, he did it after he was slowly dying from his injuries and his power was nowhere near the 100% titles fame..

Thanks for the 100℅ confirmation there, I got my clue for the answer, even if it's different than yours..

[Helios518]

I am not able to explain myself well here of the conditions of the fight I suppose..

1) I completely forgot he used his 100℅ to change the weather, but point stands, he did it after he was slowly dying from his injuries and his power was nowhere near the 100% titles fame..

2) Thanks for the 100℅ confirmation there, I got my clue for the answer, even if it's different than yours..

1) Let's be generous. If current 100% All Might can change the weather with his punch then let's make Prime All Might be able to destruction power off all the nukes we ever had and currently have, he still wouldn't be able to replicate the casual near light-speed moon-busting feat that Piccolo Junior did after he fought Raditz. But considering the "In my prime, I could've beaten Noumu with 5 punches as opposed to over 300 punches" said after the Noumu fight, Prime All Might would be lucky to be able to replicate even a fraction of the "destruction power off all the nukes we ever had and currently have" power I mentioned.

2) If you want to end the debate still believing that Prime All Might could take on Raditz, then by all means.

[dragon boss z]

Pre fight predictions for Frost vs 18

I personally think Frost will have the advantage since he had the advantage over Piccolo.

[Zamasu55]

Basil vs Lavender

Basil stomps. Lavender isn't even Base Gohan tier.

[Noah]

New match: (equal power, limited stamina)

22nd TB Goku vs. 23rd TB Krillin

[dragon boss z]

Basil vs Lavender

Basil stomps. Lavender isn't even Base Gohan tier.

Lavender's poison is really dangerous though. And in the recent episode Lavender hurt Vegeta with a punch and seemed comparable to his brothers. I agree without poison Basil would win.

[dragon boss z]

New match: (equal power, limited stamina)

22nd TB Goku vs. 23rd TB Krillin

Going off of how well Krillin fought Piccolo jr. I'm going to say Krillin.

[Freeza9000]

Pre fight predictions for Frost vs 18

I personally think Frost will have the advantage since he had the advantage over Piccolo.

Logically, Frost should be able to make 18 his bitch, but there's always a chance where Super might amp. 18 to greater heights.

[Freeza9000]

Future Zamasu (without immortality and is SSJB tier) vs. Toppo
Golden Freeza vs. SSJI Trunks (without Genki Sword)
Piccolo vs. Lavenda
Base Goku Black (EP. 56) vs. SSJB Goku/SSJB Vegeta (Fukkatsu no F)
Current Piccolo vs. Cabba

[Zamasu55]

Future Zamasu (without immortality and is SSJB tier) vs. Toppo
Golden Freeza vs. SSJI Trunks (without Genki Sword)
Piccolo vs. Lavenda
Base Goku Black (EP. 56) vs. SSJB Goku/SSJB Vegeta (Fukkatsu no F)
Current Piccolo vs. Cabba

- I can't see Toppo losing to Zamasu if he's not immortal.
- Beerus says Golden Freeza's even with current SsjB Goku, who should be stronger than Trunks (should be, 'cause it's Super we're talking about). He wins.
- I repeat, without his poison Lavender is nothing. If Piccolo makes a ki barrier then he slaughters him.
- Black was stomping Vegeta even before turning SsjR. That Vegeta is stronger than his ROF counterpart. Easy win for Black.
- Piccolo.

[Bullza]

Future Zamasu (without immortality and is SSJB tier) vs. Toppo
Golden Freeza vs. SSJI Trunks (without Genki Sword)
Piccolo vs. Lavenda
Base Goku Black (EP. 56) vs. SSJB Goku/SSJB Vegeta (Fukkatsu no F)
Current Piccolo vs. Cabba

Even if Future Zamasu was Blue Tier he's at the low end, enough to be easily stomped by Goku. Toppo was supposed to be as strong as Kaioken Blue Goku.

Trunks would win because he was stronger than Merged Zamasu, maybe even Blue Vegito. Golden Frieza isn't nearly as strong.

Piccolo, he'd just use the same Kind barrier. He is Super Saiyan 2 Tier whereas Lavender just Base Tier.

I'm not sure on this one Base Black's power was very vague. I'd say Blue Vegeta though.

Piccolo once again. Cabba as we saw him last was just a Super Saiyan, Piccolo should be a match for him even if he went Super Saiyan 2.

[Super_Divine_Genki]

Future #17 VS Future Car-man

This VS battle got interrupted and went unresolved. Don't be fooled by the Car-man feigning vulnerable weakness. That's his strategy.

Who wins?

[dragon boss z]

Future #17 VS Future Car-man

This VS battle got interrupted and went unresolved. Don't be fooled by the Car-man feigning vulnerable weakness. That's his strategy.

Who wins?

17 legit killed him in the manga. The fight was only interrupted in the anime. The old man may of been holding back though.