"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Totamo]

At this point SSJ3 Caulifa will probably happen. Then if she survives/continues after this tournament into the next arc, she'll get Blue.

Caulifa making the Super Saiyan forms so trivial really might be the last straw that breaks the camels back for some people. I personally don't really care that much, but I think this is getting to be a little too ridiculous. She's almost starting to feel like a parody of the franchise itself.

The only good thing that's coming out of this (other than giving Bandai more material for cards) is that it makes Goten & Trunks being Ssjs in the Buu arc seem logical and normal. If that arc was made today they'd have Ssj3 by the time the torunament started.

"Wow, this first female Super Saiyan turned out to be a lot more popular than even the incarnation of fan-service itself (Fem!Broly). I know! Let's give her all the SS Grade forms in the tournament so we can sell some more figures, even if she already has the superior Super Saiyan 2."

That's the mindset they've had starting with RF, "what can we do to sell more toys and cards" ? BOG was the only and most likely will be the last product that's a story first.

someone is forgetting Gotenks, who can go 3, despite the fact that neither goten or trunks can go 2.

[Totamo]

Looks like Caulifa is going to get every Super Saiyan form that exists. Anyone who thinks she won't go Blue now is kidding themselves, it's bound to happen.

so let me get this straight because she has the worst form in super saiyan catalog, you think she will go blue?


most people I have talked to are laughing because it's a useless form

[greeZH]

I should start to wait a little bit before editing, you seem to be online all the time here
See my edit

Look how few posts I did so far. It's just really slow at work right now.

Look at it this way, I am not denying she went SS2, what my point is, nobody acknowledged it not even any power increase in universe, now what she achieved looks more like SS grade 3 not another SS2 version..
If they want, they can pretty easily ignore her hair change as SS2 as a design choice because there isn't any character comment making it a no go inuniverse..

Could be that it was a design choise, but I think it was SSJ2. I think there was no point in acknowledging the power increase when she didn't even power up in SSJ before. Cabba could think something like "oh she has that much power in SSJ". And yes the new picture seems to be below SSJ2. Could be because she's holding back SSJ2 or, what I think, she thinks she's getting a better form but she isn't.

[Ki Breaker]

I will go With her only having SS not SS2..
What we got before was a momentary powerup to save Cabba..
In the tournament she tries to Powerup more and goes straight to grade 3 instead of SS2..

[sintzu]

someone is forgetting Gotenks, who can go 3, despite the fact that neither goten or trunks can go 2.

It still made more sense then what we're seeing now with her and Trunks' "rage" mode.

[Totamo]

someone is forgetting Gotenks, who can go 3, despite the fact that neither goten or trunks can go 2.

It still made more sense then what we're seeing now with her and Trunks' "rage" mode.

No it didn't, we never got an explanation for that. It's all dumb.


The point is: The more saiyans show up and tori has to play catch up. The dumber down super saiyan becomes.

[Basako]

someone is forgetting Gotenks, who can go 3, despite the fact that neither goten or trunks can go 2.

It still made more sense then what we're seeing now with her and Trunks' "rage" mode.

Definitely more sense than Trunks's rage mode. In fact, there is nothing nonsensical about it, the fusion multiplies the power of two beings, the new one achieving more powerfull states is totally fine.

[Totamo]

someone is forgetting Gotenks, who can go 3, despite the fact that neither goten or trunks can go 2.

It still made more sense then what we're seeing now with her and Trunks' "rage" mode.

Definitely more sense than Trunks's rage mode. In fact, there is nothing nonsensical about it, the fusion multiplies the power of two beings, the new one achieving more powerfull states is totally fine.

no it doesn't, trunks and goten are on par with 18, even if you mutiplied them together, they still wouldn't hit that form.


and goku trained 7 years to get it.

[sintzu]

Goku trained 7 years to get it.

Goku didn't now it existed, if he had known about it like those 2 then he might've gotten it a bit earlier.

[Basako]

It still made more sense then what we're seeing now with her and Trunks' "rage" mode.

Definitely more sense than Trunks's rage mode. In fact, there is nothing nonsensical about it, the fusion multiplies the power of two beings, the new one achieving more powerfull states is totally fine.

no it doesn't, trunks and goten are on par with 18, even if you mutiplied them together, they still wouldn't hit that form.


and goku trained 7 years to get it.

Yes they would achieve it after the fusion's multiplication, in fact, they did. That powerful was the fusion, this is just fact. Yeah, Goku trained for it, on the other hand, Gotenks's power was result of the fusion, two different ways of achieveing power, the two of them are totally fine.

[BlueBasilisk]

Speaking of Caulifla, shin youngsoon did some doodles of her: https://twitter.com/truebard/status/885748662575312897

My prediction is that she'll try to brute force her way from SS1 to Blue since she saw Goku and Vegeta go gold-blue, turn into this as a throwaway gag, and that'll be what prompts her to ask Goku.

[Nero<>Akira]

It could've been animation error when she first went "ssj2" in the previous episodes. There's several times they go SSJ2 and no lightning showed up as a result of animation error canon or not. Ex: Gohan vs Broly. No lightning but he had one bang to distinguish itself. Another ex: Vegeta vs Beerus in BOG. He had no lightning, but we know he was in SSJ2. i know this is a more "backwards" error and should honestly get more flak if it is the case. We'll see in ep 100. Even if she does use this form, i don't see the issue considering she acheived SSJ2 (if its not an error or design choice). it's a stage before 2 lol and no, her getting to stage 3 doesn't equate to her getting Blue. just straight nonsense. Gohan got SSJ2 before Goku but he never got SSJ3.

[Dragonballgod19]

Hybrids>>>u6 Saiyans
The hybrids have done way more stupid stuff

[pacz360]

It could've been animation error when she first went "ssj2" in the previous episodes. There's several times they go SSJ2 and no lightning showed up as a result of animation error canon or not. Ex: Gohan vs Broly. No lightning but he had one bang to distinguish itself. Another ex: Vegeta vs Beerus in BOG. He had no lightning, but we know he was in SSJ2. i know this is a more "backwards" error and should honestly get more flak if it is the case. We'll see in ep 100. Even if she does use this form, i don't see the issue considering she acheived SSJ2 (if its not an error or design choice). it's a stage before 2 lol and no, her getting to stage 3 doesn't equate to her getting Blue. just straight nonsense. Gohan got SSJ2 before Goku but he never got SSJ3.

It's obvious it was ssj2 dude no way it could've been any animation error

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Speaking of Caulifla, shin youngsoon did some doodles of her: https://twitter.com/truebard/status/885748662575312897

My prediction is that she'll try to brute force her way from SS1 to Blue since she saw Goku and Vegeta go gold-blue, turn into this as a throwaway gag, and that'll be what prompts her to ask Goku.

I see her going to Goku and then asking to show her how to SSGSS and Goku likes no so she shows him what she can do and she'll cycle through everything and it at this point Kale get jealous, that's what I'm going with.

[TysonWine]

I think Goku's going to explain that in order for her to become SSB she needs to keep her ki inside of her, and her misinterpretation/inexperience causes her to become muscular.

[Dragonballgod19]

Speaking of Caulifla, shin youngsoon did some doodles of her: https://twitter.com/truebard/status/885748662575312897

My prediction is that she'll try to brute force her way from SS1 to Blue since she saw Goku and Vegeta go gold-blue, turn into this as a throwaway gag, and that'll be what prompts her to ask Goku.

I see her going to Goku and then asking to show her how to SSGSS and Goku likes no so she shows him what she can do and she'll cycle through everything and it at this point Kale get jealous, that's what I'm going with.

Ok this might be true

[SansrivaaL]

Agree'd with most of what you guys are saying, Goku tells her to keep the ki inside so she does it but thinks she needs to amp her power while keeping it (I take that she would think that way because she knows SSJB amps the users power) inside and as a result it pumps her muscles out.

[Ki Breaker]

The problem with the idea of her keeping ki inside turn her into SS grade 3 is, we lose the only lead we had about god ki being not letting your ki leak out

[Ki Breaker]

I just realized something..
When berrus hakai's someone, their soul dosen't go to next world, they just stop existing, seeing how zeno erased an immortal being from existence, his powers should work the same..
Can the Dragon revive people who's souls don't exist anymore?