"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:22 pm

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SaiyanGod117 wrote:It looks like something off Dragon Ball Multiverse or a fan-created character from Xenoverse in other words it looks straight ridiculous.
It looks exactly like what Caulifla would look like using Trunks's flawed saiyan form.

Also, I jsut realised something that disappoints me. Goku Black had so many cool looking moves, AND GOKU STOLE NONE OF THEM!
I'm not sure if that's an argument for or against it looking ridiculous. From a design stand point it looks atrocious.

Ironically it almost feel redeemed for insisting Kale and Caulifa were the same character because now they basically are going to using SSJ forms that look almost exactly the same. Like literally if you do a comparison of her hair againsts Kale beserk form it's like they couldn't even bother to try and design or make the hair different or unique enough.

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Post by RedHeat » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:23 pm

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Great googly moogly they actually managed something worse than giving SSB? How is that possible? What are they doing over there??? Hahaha this is so awful it's amazing!
are you serious lmao

You have to be trolling.
Me or you??? Are you saying you actually like this???
Never said I liked it, but you have to be LEGIT trolling if you think Caulifla going into a transformation that might not even last a few seconds and will be basically moot in
the long-run, is worse than her getting a god transformation spontaneously without any formal training needed prior.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:24 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Well, it's not Blue so I'm only giving it a 2 out of 10 on my scale of awful Super scaling.
Great googly moogly they actually managed something worse than giving SSB? How is that possible? What are they doing over there??? Hahaha this is so awful it's amazing!
Care to elaborate why it's awful?
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Post by Kanassa » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:25 pm

TheMikado wrote: I'm not sure if that's an argument for or against it looking ridiculous. From a design stand point it looks atrocious.

Ironically it almost feel redeemed for insisting Kale and Caulifa were the same character because now they basically are going to using SSJ forms that look almost exactly the same. Like literally if you do a comparison of her hair againsts Kale beserk form it's like they couldn't even bother to try and design or make the hair different or unique enough.
My point is simply the form looks just how it should, awesomely ridiculous and over-the-top with the muscles, visually flawed.

TO be fair, wasn't Broly's whole design based off of Trunks's Ultra form? Kind of a given they'd look simmilar
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:25 pm

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SaiyanGod117 wrote:It looks like something off Dragon Ball Multiverse or a fan-created character from Xenoverse in other words it looks straight ridiculous.
So that's what you think of USSJ FT Trunks and USSJ Goku?
Number one it was introducing the form and two the whole point of the concept was that it was ridiculous. It was purposely bloated not because it was actually cool looking but because I was emphasizing how ridiculous and impractical it was. We can wait to see how it plays out but seeing the body of a that looks like an 11 year old girl bulk up into Broly form seems unnecessary. It just looks crazy and not something I would think they would do in universe that would serve a purpose but we will see what the story attached to it is.

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Post by SaiyanGod117 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:25 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote:It looks like something off Dragon Ball Multiverse or a fan-created character from Xenoverse in other words it looks straight ridiculous.
So that's what you think of USSJ FT Trunks and USSJ Goku?!
Goku Yes, Trunks No. All in all she still looks ridiculous.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:26 pm

Kanassa wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote:It looks like something off Dragon Ball Multiverse or a fan-created character from Xenoverse in other words it looks straight ridiculous.
It looks exactly like what Caulifla would look like using Trunks's flawed saiyan form.

Also, I jsut realised something that disappoints me. Goku Black had so many cool looking moves, AND GOKU STOLE NONE OF THEM!
I would've really enjoyed seeing Gokû using that ki arm-sword. I know he can still technically do it as Vegetto, but it would've been cool to see him do it on his own too.
Also I really liked the ki-scythe; could've done some nyoi-bo style moves with it even if the scythe doesn't fully mesh with his personality.
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Post by Basako » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:27 pm

Caulifla, our saiyan girl. I'm fine with her personality, she is arrogant and cocky and sometimes a jerk. Well, she is not the first, Vegeta was like that for a big while, he still is sometimes. Her design, I like it, but maybe I'd prefer if she looked older instead of a teenager, as well as Cabba and Kale.

I'm fine with her achieving the SS fast and even the SS2. I think she got the second, the blue sparks plus the change in hair suggest that. Now, I don't get why she would use the muscular form having the SS2, there I see the problem, but we have to see that in context yet.

The SSB, I don't think she'll get it, but I can't say if I'm fine if she does until it's said how it works. For now, I'd prefer I'd she didn't, we'll see. I think she will get far in this tournament anyway.

The SS Berserk is more problematic for me, still waiting for some kind of explanation. My headcanon is that she has a mutation that makes her SS different and more powerful. And green, by the way.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:28 pm

TheMikado wrote: Like literally if you do a comparison of her hair againsts Kale beserk form it's like they couldn't even bother to try and design or make the hair different or unique enough.
Both of them already have unique hairstyles in their base forms and Caulifla keeps it in SSJ.
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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:29 pm

RedHeat wrote:
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RedHeat wrote: are you serious lmao

You have to be trolling.
Me or you??? Are you saying you actually like this???
Never said I liked it, but you have to be LEGIT trolling if you think Caulifla going into a transformation that might not even last a few seconds and will be basically moot in
the long-run, is worse than her getting a god transformation spontaneously without any formal training needed prior.

Boy, I hope you and everyone else who thinks this way sees better days.
Wow I'm not sure where to even begin here. You can read my other posts on this but from both a design standpoint and from practically advancing the story I do not see why this form would be utilized when the character has already achieved the superior SSJ2 form. Like I said I'll reserve judgement for a good in universe reason but if it's for fab service and not narrative purposes, it's really and awful inclusive. As I said we have to see how it plays out but it's nice to know you've seen to episode to know it only is utilized for a few seconds.

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:32 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
TheMikado wrote: Like literally if you do a comparison of her hair againsts Kale beserk form it's like they couldn't even bother to try and design or make the hair different or unique enough.
Both of them already have unique hairstyles in their base forms and Caulifla keeps it in SSJ.
I'm not sure how that makes it better??? I point it out months ago, in the screenshots. There's no way Kale should be spontaneous growing an extra long bang she didn't have of near equal length and certainly not to the point where these two have similar hairstyles. This just lends more to my theory that they were originally one character and make either Toriyama or Toei wanted one normal SSJ female and one Broly type.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:43 pm

Imagine the leak shot being Cauli in blue hair instead, the riot in the fanbase it would cause :lol:
Tho SSJ Buff doesnt look good on anyone because of the overly pumped muscles, it looks way horrible on a girl especially since I see Cauli as a skinny teen.

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:44 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Freeza9000 wrote:Dragon Ball Super Episode 99 Preview Image-Looks like SSJ Stage 3
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
When I said I wanted characters to have muscles again in Dragon Ball, a Female Broly and a female USSJ was not what I meant. :lol:
Just for reference this is why I think they look too similar in hair style to be a coincidence.

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Post by perucho1990 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:47 pm

What if Caulifla gets SSJ Ikari instead?

Trunks also used the USSJ transformation before he reached to Blue level/Pre Ikari mode when he was sparring with Vegeta.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:50 pm

perucho1990 wrote:What if Caulifla gets SSJ Ikari instead?

Trunks also used the USSJ transformation before he reached to Blue level/Pre Ikari mode when he was sparring with Vegeta.
Personally I wouldnt mind it, if Trunks got it then Cauli and the others can as well, plus we may even get an explanation into what the actual hell that transformation is.
BTW its not like he used buff mode against Vegeta because it was needed to get SSJ Rage, it was for strategic measures to throw Vegeta off guard.

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Post by perucho1990 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:55 pm

SansrivaaL wrote: Personally I wouldnt mind it, if Trunks got it then Cauli and the others can as well, plus we may even get an explanation into what the actual hell that transformation is.
BTW its not like he used buff mode against Vegeta because it was needed to get SSJ Rage, it was for strategic measures to throw Vegeta off guard.
The explanation would be easy: Have Goku mention its an incomplete version of Blue(Trunks had blue aura iirc).

Toei could make SSJ Ikari 100% canon like Kaioken+SSJB form.

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Post by Nero<>Akira » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:40 pm

Why haven't some people learned their lesson regarding these reactions and spoilers? Wait for the episode.
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Post by Yomi » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:46 pm

Nero<>Akira wrote:Why haven't some people learned their lesson regarding these reactions and spoilers? Wait for the episode.
As long as they're not goin' crazy or calling it BS without context, it's fine to discuss the spoilers.
That is why we are here.
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Post by Nero<>Akira » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:48 pm

Yomi wrote:
Nero<>Akira wrote:Why haven't some people learned their lesson regarding these reactions and spoilers? Wait for the episode.
As long as they're not goin' crazy or calling it BS without context, it's fine to discuss the spoilers.
That is why we are here.
I just saw people saying it looks awful and like fanfic and that it's worse than SSB. that is crazy honestly lol
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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:51 pm

Nero<>Akira wrote:
Yomi wrote:
Nero<>Akira wrote:Why haven't some people learned their lesson regarding these reactions and spoilers? Wait for the episode.
As long as they're not goin' crazy or calling it BS without context, it's fine to discuss the spoilers.
That is why we are here.
I just saw people saying it looks awful and like fanfic and that it's worse than SSB. that is crazy honestly lol
That would be me, and it does look horrible and worse than what SSB on her would look like. That's objective and I would think most people agree on those points as well. I see nothing wrong with stating that it looks horrible and probably worse than what SSB would look like. Context isn't going to change a visual observation. More images may but we kinda how the gist of what they are going for.

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