Freeza - gone for good?

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Freeza - gone for good?

Post by coola » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:28 am

If they didnt change rule "You will be gone forever, when you die again, after you are already dead" And hell will break after Tournament ends, Freeza might be gone for good this tme.
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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Kastex » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:59 am

coola wrote:If they didnt change rule "You will be gone forever, when you die again, after you are already dead" And hell will break after Tournament ends, Freeza might be gone for good this tme.
what do you mean? if frieza gets killed in the tournament then he should be gone for good, but killing isn't allowed in the tournament. if u7 loses then everyone in u7 is gone for good.

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Post by Shinda Forever » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:03 am

I want Frieza to stay alive to keep Goku in check.

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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Basako » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:08 pm

If he dies, that will be the case. But probably not, he may return to Hell after all this is done or, who knows, maybe he'll get his desire
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Post by Xeogran » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:17 pm

Nope, Freeza will be back one way or another. He's loved by everyone (even you, coola!), so the writers cannot afford to do it. Freeza is also the best antagonist.

The one who is gone for good is Buu, because he's asleep for everything relevant :lol:

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:21 pm

Freeza prints money.

TOEI aren't going to stop using him, that we can count on.
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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:06 pm

I feel Toriyama brought Freeza because he just has a lot of fun writing the character. And as long as Toriyama is having fun with writing a character, he will keep them around for as long as possible. Mr Satan is a prime example of this.

I honestly imagine a scenario were Freeza will hijack the wish with the Super Dragon Balls and bring himself back to life

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:30 pm

The only way I'd be up for Freeza returning again and again is if the methods of doing so grew increasingly absurd and ridiculous each time. Ham it up more each consecutive return and only play it straight once in a blue moon to shake things up.
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Post by coola » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:53 pm

Xeogran wrote:Nope, Freeza will be back one way or another. He's loved by everyone (even you, coola!), so the writers cannot afford to do it. Freeza is also the best antagonist.

The one who is gone for good is Buu, because he's asleep for everything relevant :lol:
I like Freeza too, and i root for him to come back to life :)
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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:08 pm

coola wrote:
Xeogran wrote:Nope, Freeza will be back one way or another. He's loved by everyone (even you, coola!), so the writers cannot afford to do it. Freeza is also the best antagonist.

The one who is gone for good is Buu, because he's asleep for everything relevant :lol:
I like Freeza too, and i root for him to come back to life :)
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In answer to your question, as far as I was aware the second death and gone for good rule only applies to souls in otherworld. Rather then feeling tired out with his SS3 Goku just burned his time limit, so I suspect if you suffer a mortal wound while back for a day you get instantly thrown back to other world.

That being said, Baba is always with that soul when they come and go. I have often wondered if she acts as a guide so the soul dose not get lost during the journey. If Frieza dose suffer a mortal wound its possible that he may end up like King Piccolo's victims, without a guide back to otherworld his soul will become trapped, unable to pass on.

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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by precita » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:05 pm

The only way he'll be gone forever at this point is if Beerus flat out erases him entirely so he can't exist as he's dead either.

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Post by TheOne » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:56 am

Frieza is about to be a multi universal threat lol


The way he keeps commenting about the Dieties and how they run things makes me wonder if he's going to win the tournament and get the Super Dragon Balls.

He was denied at Namek. Now he might finally get his wish.

Can someone clarify something for me. Did they say you have to speak a certain angelic language to use the Super Dragon Balls?
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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by precita » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:04 am

I do actually think Freeza will be the main villain of the next arc. All this plotting of overthrowing Beerus and then even Zeno, lol, obviously something is up.

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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Lionel » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:19 am

The most ironic predicament that arises with Freeza his his potential for growth being exponentially higher than anyone else's in the series, including Gohan's really. If the Z-fighters were faced with the imposing threat of turncoat angels, Freeza might become their best hope at survival. Give him two years in the RoSaT and he may come out having surpassed everyone sans Zeno and perhaps his sentries.

If Freeza were practical with his wish, he would request to either grant himself nigh infinite amounts of power or have everyone who can oppose him wished from existence. He can fret about being revived and resuming his quest for immortality once the opposition has been dealt with.

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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Legion » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:47 am

Frieza will create many problems, but he also say a lot of nonsense (Vegeta style). People really think that Frieza will kill/manipulate Zeno or Beerus/Hakaishins and that he will rule the multiverse? Nah.

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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:57 am

Legion wrote:Frieza will create many problems, but he also say a lot of nonsense (Vegeta style). People really think that Frieza will kill/manipulate Zeno or Beerus/Hakaishins and that he will rule the multiverse? Nah.
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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by Snakeway Skywalker » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:42 pm

I really want Frieza to do something significant in this arc or the after it. Why bother bringing back the character again just to come back again? We did that already. It was the Golden Frieza saga.

I don't care what it is, but please move Frieza's character somewhere besides "I'll have my revenge on you one of these days, Son Goku! Just you wait!" That gets boring after awhile.

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Re: Freeza - gone for good?

Post by The gr » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:43 pm

Freeza better be alive after this,I'm gonna be angry if he gets erased or killed off
    here a wild prediction,freeza will become a god of destruction,specifically universe 9 since the sidra is incompetent and I say freeza will enjoy that universe,it will be an interesting twist
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    Re: Freeza - gone for good?

    Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:03 pm

    The gr wrote:Freeza better be alive after this,I'm gonna be angry if he gets erased or killed off
      here a wild prediction,freeza will become a god of destruction,specifically universe 9 since the sidra is incompetent and I say freeza will enjoy that universe,it will be an interesting twist
      Would make the dialogue
      "he is more of a god of destruction than you" an epic foreshadowing
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      Post by Spider-Man » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:20 pm

      Ki Breaker wrote:
      The gr wrote:Freeza better be alive after this,I'm gonna be angry if he gets erased or killed off
        here a wild prediction,freeza will become a god of destruction,specifically universe 9 since the sidra is incompetent and I say freeza will enjoy that universe,it will be an interesting twist
        Would make the dialogue
        "he is more of a god of destruction than you" an epic foreshadowing
        This is indeed an epic forshadowing,freeza will become the superior god of destruction even better than Sidra and beerus,he will acknowledge his mistakes and make U9 one of the strongest universe.

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