The 3 main fights at the end will be....

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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by Jigurashi » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:24 am

It's possible that if Vegeta does lose to U2's fighters, it could be a Vegeta VS Kamikaze Fireballs fight to where he loses to the combined efforts of all three of them. Regardless, the opening doesn't suggest anything about him losing. Sure he could lose to Brianne the possibility exists, but I can't say with what we've seen so far that there's enough evidence to suggest that.

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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:57 am

Ever since the Champa arc people have been saying Vegeta wouldn't do much or leave early yet in that arc and the Black arc (especially in the manga) not only did he last till the end but did more than even his supporters expected so why will this arc be any different ? the sad thing is, once every doubter is proven wrong by him lasting till the end, they'll start over again when the next arc is announced.
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Post by GreatSaiyaJeff » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:03 am

While the majority of Super has been focusing on Goku and Vegeta, this arc seems to put Vegeta in more of the back seat to gave Gohan to come back to relevance. Not to say Vegeta isn't important, he is but it seems like all the build up with Gohan, I feel like he'll be in final fights.
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Post by Bullza » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:04 am

MagmonKai wrote:Do you really think the 2nd best fighter on our team is going to job to some rather unknown character? If he's going down he's going down to a worthy opponent like Hit or Toppo.
Agreed, no way would the second best fighter, Golden Frieza, be defeated so easily.

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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:17 am

GreatSaiyaJeff wrote:This arc seems to put Vegeta in more of the back seat to gave Gohan to come back to relevance. It seems like all the build up with Gohan.
Vegeta helped take out U9, he's currently fighting Botomo and Maggeta, he'll be fighting Cabba in the next episode, from the opening we know he'll fight that fat thing (yet somehow people think he'll lose even though he's doing fine in his Ssj form), he wants to fight Hit again & a toy convention in Japan had him facing off against Kale in her Lssj form. Yet somehow, Gohan who's done nothing except stand around is getting more build up and is more relevant.
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Post by precita » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:20 am

Vegeta getting so much focus early on is exactly why he's likely to get knocked out. They're giving Vegeta a lot of wins or screentime to make his participation in the tournament worthy, but then they'll knock him out at some point in the middle so they can focus on other characters, most likely Goku, Gohan and possibly Freeza.

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Post by Jigurashi » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:52 am

sintzu wrote:Ever since the Champa arc people have been saying Vegeta wouldn't do much or leave early yet in that arc and the Black arc (especially in the manga) not only did he last till the end but did more than even his supporters expected so why will this arc be any different ? the sad thing is, once every doubter is proven wrong by him lasting till the end, they'll start over again when the next arc is announced.
I think that's only true for the manga version. Goku and Trunks pretty clearly outperformed him in the anime version with him not really doing much damage to M-Zamasu there. He definitely did a lot in the manga version though. With all that said, I agree with your point. If he's getting taken out, it's not going to be until late in the game.

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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:04 am

Jigurashi wrote:Goku and Trunks pretty clearly outperformed him in the anime version.
This is true but he still did more than people said he would. When he got stabbed they said he was done for the rest of the arc but he ended up saving them at the last minute, he got to beat Black, he got multiple scenes with Trunks & he alongside Goku gave their energy to Trunks to finish Zamasu off.

Let's not forget the RF arc where multiple things were changed from the movie in his favore. It was his idea to train with Whis, he got SsjB on his own, he got to kill Ginyu & his fight with Freeza had more weight to it thanks to them having Freeza beat everyone up including Goku.
precita wrote:Vegeta getting so much focus early on is exactly why he's likely to get knocked out.
Goku is also getting a lot of screen time, does that mean he's getting knocked out early ? of course not. Vegeta is the franchise's 2nd main character so of course he's going to get early screen time.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:11 am

precita wrote:Vegeta getting so much focus early on is exactly why he's likely to get knocked out. They're giving Vegeta a lot of wins or screentime to make his participation in the tournament worthy, but then they'll knock him out at some point in the middle so they can focus on other characters, most likely Goku, Gohan and possibly Freeza.
He wants to win the tournament as well, so if he jobs, it should be to a pride trooper, the main line between him and the win, that would provide the most effect..
And he has a tendency to lose to the big bad so there's that too
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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by SuperHumanGod » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:15 am

I'm hoping for 4 or 5 big end fights. We're about to hit some mid-range fights, we still have some low end fighters to get knocked out and then the big finale.

Goku vs jiren

Gohan vs toppo

vegeta vs Big enemy of other universe

frieza vs hit

Maybe, maybe Piccolo gets a fight too. I'd be surprised if vegeta gets knocked out early.
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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by Jigurashi » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:27 am

I just don't see him going down early. Doesn't seem like something they'd do. There's nothing they've done so far to make me believe Vegeta would be taken out early.

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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:15 am

SuperHumanGod wrote:Maybe, maybe Piccolo gets a fight too.
His last major fight was against #17 in the Cell arc so if anyone needs a big fight it's him.
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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by Jigurashi » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:49 am

sintzu wrote:
SuperHumanGod wrote:Maybe, maybe Piccolo gets a fight too.
His last major fight was against #17 in the Cell arc so if anyone needs a big fight it's him.
This is so true it hurts. What hurts even more is the fact that it's quite likely he won't get a big fight.

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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:04 am

Correct me if I'm wrong but, is it actually said (not in universe) that Universe 11 and 2 are linked together?
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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:57 am

Dragon Ball Gus wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but, is it actually said (not in universe) that Universe 11 and 2 are linked together?
Yeah I think it was somewhere during the Champa arc.
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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by Lionel » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:08 am

Give me Gohan, Piccolo, and the humans any day. I'm mostly indifferent about the cyborgs and Freeza is nigh guaranteed to be in the scant list of finalists who are still active on the battlefield once the time limit has dipped below ten minutes. Realistically, I don't expect for any of the aforementioned U7 members to hold out for very long except for maybe Gohan due to his development. Piccolo will be lucky to receive an episode dedicated to him battling a middle-tier contestant of notoriety while the humans are left to feast on whatever scraps that wander too close to the team formation like Jium.

Is it wrong of me to want Hit to battle the likes of Piccolo? It's not realistically feasible for Piccolo to perform to any efficient degree but those two seem like they would mesh well together on a battlefield with their personalities.

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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:21 am

Lionel wrote:Is it wrong of me to want Hit to battle the likes of Piccolo ? It's not realistically feasible for Piccolo to perform to any efficient degree but those two seem like they would mesh well together on a battlefield with their personalities.
It could've worked if they wanted it to. All they had to do is say he trained with Whis.
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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:25 am

sintzu wrote:
Lionel wrote:Is it wrong of me to want Hit to battle the likes of Piccolo ? It's not realistically feasible for Piccolo to perform to any efficient degree but those two seem like they would mesh well together on a battlefield with their personalities.
It could've worked if they wanted it to. All they had to do is say he trained with Whis.
Or have to do is have another namekian at the tournament and fuse..
They did neither of those..
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:27 am

I'd want Gohan to outlast Vegeta, Gohan barely did anything in Super's run besides some moments that doesnt even come close to Vegeta's and Trunks, at least give this to Gohan, I wouldnt mind the next arc be centered on both Goku and Vegeta again with Gohan back on support role.

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Re: The 3 main fights at the end will be....

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:30 am

SansrivaaL wrote:I'd want Gohan to outlast Vegeta, Gohan barely did anything in Super's run besides some moments that doesnt even come close to Vegeta's and Trunks, at least give this to Gohan, I wouldnt mind the next arc be centered on both Goku and Vegeta again with Gohan back on support role.
Gohan has realized the same thing once again, after this time, he wouldn't be shown forgetting he needs to train..
There are two possibilities, either gohan becomes an active fighter or toriyama discovers another way for him to be out of the picture, knowing him he probably has one already planned..
If not, then sweet! Gohan will have another arc of involvement
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