"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TheOne]

Jiren and Hit might do a staredown but I think it would be a mistake to have them fight this early. Only 5 minutes passed in the ToP so we need more build up and more from other universes that we haven't really seen, especially U2.

Hit will job to Jiren to showcase how strong Jiren is. That's classic Dragonball. The former big gun being effortlessly taken out by the current one.

Jiren seems boring to me though so far, we haven't seen him say barely any words since he's been introduced. We've seen enough quiet stoic guys in the world of Dragonball that we don't need more.

Jiren can be dangerous, because, he has a special ability. I seriously doubt he can beat Hitto effortlessly.

Well considering Hitto isn't really promoted and Goku vs Jiren is what's being advertised, I don't see Hitto making the top 3 fighters standing in all the universes.

I can see him and Vegeta having a great match, but the writers might even give Vegeta the ability to overcome Hitto's time skip technique and give Vegeta the victory after a hard fought battle.

Historical evidence always points that the former main rival to Goku is almost always outshined by the new one, and I don't see this pattern being ceased to appease your thousand year Assassin.

I don't think they'll have this epic fight just yet. While I do believe Jiren and Hit will have a showdown at some point, I think the big fights will be at the end. They're kinda getting rid of the weaklings right now so the real fighters can decide their fates. So I can see there being a showdown with U11, 6 and 7. Each only having a few fighters left. I imagine they'll make U6s erasure a little dramatic, so it'll probably be towards the end.

[Lionel]

Is there any sliver of hope that the recent ending for the show may allude to a potential secondary protagonist role for Gohan? I mean in the context of him playing a significant role in the final conflict à la Goku and Vegeta against Kid Buu or Goku and Piccolo against Raditz.

[Shinda Forever]

I actually disagree on that vegeta had more spotlight than Freeza even since the tournament happened look at ep 98 and 99 we only see a couple of seconds of Freeza,if anything they been making vegeta look good ever since the tournament started so far he beat 6 characters 8 if he beats the two he was fight this episode

Have you considered the possibility that this is happening because Vegeta will be eliminated sooner than Frieza?

Yeah but then again everyone but goku going to job in this tournament

Honestly this battle royal mode is not very good for great battles. A tournament where all universes would battle each other one after the other would be better. A draw with each universe against each other until they reached the semi finals and final.

Is there any sliver of hope that the recent ending for the show may allude to a potential secondary protagonist role for Gohan? I mean in the context of him playing a significant role in the final conflict à la Goku and Vegeta against Kid Buu or Goku and Piccolo against Raditz.

I think there is zero chances for that scenario.

[perucho1990]

Honestly this battle royal mode is not very good for great battles. A tournament where all universes would battle each other one after the other would be better. A draw with each universe against each other until they reached the semi finals and final.

A draw with 4 Universes(U7, U6 ,U2 and U11 to set up semifinals and finals, or it could also be a perfect chance for a Rebellion to happen.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Have you considered the possibility that this is happening because Vegeta will be eliminated sooner than Frieza?

Yeah but then again everyone but goku going to job in this tournament

Honestly this battle royal mode is not very good for great battles. A tournament where all universes would battle each other one after the other would be better. A draw with each universe against each other until they reached the semi finals and final.

I agree in terms of the fan base but I feel like the staff and production value would just plummet from all the episodes and extra work.

[GodKaio-Ken]

So my prediction now based of Heros and some thought of how the series works.

The end will be Goku and Frieza vs Jiren. Beerus will go crazy about protecting eachother...they dont need to eliminate Jiren they need to survive.

Goku and Frieza will be too prideful and Frieza will be eliminated setting up the real final battle.

[Shinda Forever]

Honestly this battle royal mode is not very good for great battles. A tournament where all universes would battle each other one after the other would be better. A draw with each universe against each other until they reached the semi finals and final.

A draw with 4 Universes(U7, U6 ,U2 and U11 to set up semifinals and finals, or it could also be a perfect chance for a Rebellion to happen.

That would be awesome!

Yeah but then again everyone but goku going to job in this tournament

Honestly this battle royal mode is not very good for great battles. A tournament where all universes would battle each other one after the other would be better. A draw with each universe against each other until they reached the semi finals and final.

I agree in terms of the fan base but I feel like the staff and production value would just plummet from all the episodes and extra work.

That is because, they don't invest enough, one piece has a lot of characters and doesn't have that kind of problem.

So my prediction now based of Heros and some thought of how the series works.

The end will be Goku and Frieza vs Jiren. Beerus will go crazy about protecting eachother...they dont need to eliminate Jiren they need to survive.

Goku and Frieza will be too prideful and Frieza will be eliminated setting up the real final battle.

That is a great theory! Good job!

[BlueBasilisk]

Goku vs Jiren will most likely be the headlining event of the tournament but I don't think it'll be the devisive one. I just can't shake the feeling that there'll be a big game-changing twist before everything plays out completely.

And there's still the matter of the Frieza/Frost secret alliance and Frieza's plotting against the Gods. Maybe Frieza encouraged Frost to sneakily take out the fodder from U7 to increase the odds he'll win while avoiding 'friendly fire.'

[TheOne]

So my prediction now based of Heros and some thought of how the series works.

The end will be Goku and Frieza vs Jiren. Beerus will go crazy about protecting eachother...they dont need to eliminate Jiren they need to survive.

Goku and Frieza will be too prideful and Frieza will be eliminated setting up the real final battle.

I see Frieza knocking out Goku at the last second, just to make sure he gets to make a wish.

[Jigurashi]

I actually disagree on that vegeta had more spotlight than Freeza even since the tournament happened look at ep 98 and 99 we only see a couple of seconds of Freeza,if anything they been making vegeta look good ever since the tournament started so far he beat 6 characters 8 if he beats the two he was fight this episode

Have you considered the possibility that this is happening because Vegeta will be eliminated sooner than Frieza?

Yeah but then again everyone but goku going to job in this tournament

He might lose, but I don't see him jobbing.

So my prediction now based of Heros and some thought of how the series works.

The end will be Goku and Frieza vs Jiren. Beerus will go crazy about protecting eachother...they dont need to eliminate Jiren they need to survive.

Goku and Frieza will be too prideful and Frieza will be eliminated setting up the real final battle.

I see Frieza knocking out Goku at the last second, just to make sure he gets to make a wish.

Wouldn't the MVP get the wish? Wouldn't say for example Vegeta get the wish if he put in the most work for his team but was eliminated before it got down to the last three even if Freeza outlasted everyone?

[Kanassa]

Honestly neither of the angels are evil I think people are just being retarded

What exactly makes retarded? Even if he has no hidden agenda hes committing mass genocide which at least by human standards is enough to call him evil.

Yeah I'm just getting really sick of every db YouTuber making videos of the angels are evil it's annoying me.

So, because many people talk about the idea, that makes said idea stupid?

[TheOne]

Have you considered the possibility that this is happening because Vegeta will be eliminated sooner than Frieza?

Yeah but then again everyone but goku going to job in this tournament

He might lose, but I don't see him jobbing.

So my prediction now based of Heros and some thought of how the series works.

The end will be Goku and Frieza vs Jiren. Beerus will go crazy about protecting eachother...they dont need to eliminate Jiren they need to survive.

Goku and Frieza will be too prideful and Frieza will be eliminated setting up the real final battle.

I see Frieza knocking out Goku at the last second, just to make sure he gets to make a wish.

Wouldn't the MVP get the wish? Wouldn't say for example Vegeta get the wish if he put in the most work for his team but was eliminated before it got down to the last three even if Freeza outlasted everyone?

I don't think it's MVP. It seems like it's the last man/universe standing.

Say for instance Bergamo knocked out 60 people alone, making him the MVP. How many knockouts he had makes no difference if he gets knocked out and his universe loses. They get wiped out on the spot.

So it's essentially the last man standing. If there are 2 U7 warriors and 1 U11 warrior left, U7 wins. So if Goku and Jiren fight each other and Goku wins, I see Frieza knocking Goku out of bounds so he gets the wish.

[Whatever]

What exactly makes retarded? Even if he has no hidden agenda hes committing mass genocide which at least by human standards is enough to call him evil.

Yeah I'm just getting really sick of every db YouTuber making videos of the angels are evil it's annoying me.

So, because many people talk about the idea, that makes said idea stupid?

No because its the same thing all over again.Whis smiles weirdly?He is evil confirmed.Vados did the same thing?She is evil CONFIRMED.GP smiled?You get how it goes.
The angels simply don't care(GP included)because they are neutral,not to mention most of them are trolls(as shown by Whis/Vados/GP)and the U9 angel hated his universe which is why he seems like its the best day ever.
People try to find conspiracy where it isn't,the angels are just doing their job and since they are not getting erased,there is not even a reason for them to care,just as simple as that.

[Dragonballgod19]

Yeah I'm just getting really sick of every db YouTuber making videos of the angels are evil it's annoying me.

So, because many people talk about the idea, that makes said idea stupid?

No because its the same thing all over again.Whis smiles weirdly?He is evil confirmed.Vados did the same thing?She is evil CONFIRMED.GP smiled?You get how it goes.
The angels simply don't care(GP included)because they are neutral,not to mention most of them are trolls(as shown by Whis/Vados/GP)and the U9 angel hated his universe which is why he seems like its the best day ever.
People try to find conspiracy where it isn't,the angels are just doing their job and since they are not getting erased,there is not even a reason for them to care,just as simple as that.

Exactly

[pacz360]

Jiren can be dangerous, because, he has a special ability. I seriously doubt he can beat Hitto effortlessly.

Well considering Hitto isn't really promoted and Goku vs Jiren is what's being advertised, I don't see Hitto making the top 3 fighters standing in all the universes.

I can see him and Vegeta having a great match, but the writers might even give Vegeta the ability to overcome Hitto's time skip technique and give Vegeta the victory after a hard fought battle.

Historical evidence always points that the former main rival to Goku is almost always outshined by the new one, and I don't see this pattern being ceased to appease your thousand year Assassin.

Things change, Majin Buu was supposed to fight in this tournament and now there is Freeza who is stronger than Vegeta.
Frieza is taking the spotlight from Vegeta in this arc, so i can see Hitto vs Frieza.
What you say about historical evidence is right, but, Goku already faced Hitto twice and he couldn't beat him both times since Vegeta is not Goku, i don't believe he will beat Hitto, but, i may be wrong.

freeza not stronger than vegeta nothing implies this in the slightest at best there equal
We don't know what gonna happen in this arc so people lay off heroes and the endings

[Kishido]

Frieza is prideful and all but maybe he will realize he will gain nothing by it going alone against Jiren... same as he knows he can't do shit against Beerus.

Maybe he will buy Goku some time with of course remembering Goku about their deal.

[Shinda Forever]

Well considering Hitto isn't really promoted and Goku vs Jiren is what's being advertised, I don't see Hitto making the top 3 fighters standing in all the universes.

I can see him and Vegeta having a great match, but the writers might even give Vegeta the ability to overcome Hitto's time skip technique and give Vegeta the victory after a hard fought battle.

Historical evidence always points that the former main rival to Goku is almost always outshined by the new one, and I don't see this pattern being ceased to appease your thousand year Assassin.

Things change, Majin Buu was supposed to fight in this tournament and now there is Freeza who is stronger than Vegeta.
Frieza is taking the spotlight from Vegeta in this arc, so i can see Hitto vs Frieza.
What you say about historical evidence is right, but, Goku already faced Hitto twice and he couldn't beat him both times since Vegeta is not Goku, i don't believe he will beat Hitto, but, i may be wrong.

freeza not stronger than vegeta nothing implies this in the slightest at best there equal
We don't know what gonna happen in this arc so people lay off heroes and the endings

We know Goku is stronger than Vegeta and Frieza was able to knock Goku out while being also koed in the process. That alone proves that Frieza is stronger than Vegeta.

[DBZ Macky]

We know Goku is stronger than Vegeta and Frieza was able to knock Goku out while being also koed in the process. That alone proves that Frieza is stronger than Vegeta.

I've seen a lot of people claiming that Goku's no match for Vegeta without the Kaio-Ken since the Goku Black arc, especially after Vegeta used the RoSaT once more before the tournament began.

[Shinda Forever]

We know Goku is stronger than Vegeta and Frieza was able to knock Goku out while being also koed in the process. That alone proves that Frieza is stronger than Vegeta.

I've seen a lot of people claiming that Goku's no match for Vegeta without the Kaio-Ken since the Goku Black arc, especially after Vegeta used the RoSaT once more before the tournament began.

You heard? Certainly Vegeta fans. Do you really believe that? Goku also trained with Whis. Goku is always stronger than Vegeta. Have you seen both training under Whis? Goku was always a step ahead. Training in the rosat means nothing, in the Cell arc, he also trained one more year than Goku and as everyone knows Goku was a lot stronger than Vegeta.

[DBZ Macky]

You heard? Certainly Vegeta fans. Do you really believe that? Goku also trained with Whis. Goku is always stronger than Vegeta. Have you seen both training under Whis? Goku was always a step ahead. Training in the rosat means nothing, in the Cell arc, he also trained one more year than Goku and as everyone knows Goku was a lot stronger than Vegeta.

I definitely don't agree with them, given how Goku's Kamehameha alone fared as well against Fused Zamasu as Vegeta and Trunks's combined Galick Gun did in literally the same damn arc where Vegeta apparently surpassed him. Then Goku would be training and fighting the other U7 guys while Vegeta would be looking after Bra and getting rusty. Though I'd still say that both of them are exactly equal in power, with none of them having a noticeable advantage over the other, like how it had been in RoF.