"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[dbgtFO]

So... The final Ruining of Manga Zamasu is running like a total bitch?

And Trunks stayed totally useless to the end?


Amazing Toyo, Amazing.

So amazing in fact, you had to triple post. There is an edit button for the very reason to prevent people from multiposting and while you are at it, try to provide sources for your unfounded claims like

no wonder people hate the manga in Japan

Where the hell did you even get that impression?
Stop with the bs, you may not like the manga, but at least back up such claims with facts and data.

[Slaythe]

Trunks did NOTHING.

Jfc toyotaro.

[Duo]

Monthly reminder: This thread will be almost completely toxic for the next three days and any person looking to maintain their sanity is recommended to stay away.

Here's hoping the full release and translation follow quickly.

[Lionel]

I'm in agreement with the people who are saying that Zamasu's last moment cowardice kind of besmirches the memory of his character. I preferred the self-righteous martyr in the anime who shed tears because he was believing himself to be shouldering the impurities of the world and the failures of the gods. Living to fight another day is one thing, but if he was hoping to escape why not teleport? Or am I remembering that incorrectly? Surely he could have used one of the time rings he had on his person to escape.

[mute_proxy]

Considering how many pages the previous volumes had, which chapter might end Volume 4?

[Basako]

Trunks did nothing, Trunks did nothing, people with mantras again. Trunks was fundamental in the manga, he fought Black many times. Did Krilin do nothing in the Namek arc just because he was weaker than Freeza? No, Toriyama decided not to give him nonsensical power ups, same with Trunks in this arc, both did a lot in their arcs. Toyotaro followed Toriyama's plot, good for him. Trunks sacrifized so Goku and Vegeta could escape to get a solution. He cured Goku so he could fight and use the mastered SSB and the Hakai. He would have killed Black, if the defusion would have been normal.

If you mean he didn't had a huge power up to fight, ok, he didn't. Better that than nonsensical transformations or a spontaneous Genki ball added to his sword, which was nonsensical too.

Monthly reminder: This thread will be almost completely toxic for the next three days and any person looking to maintain their sanity is recommended to stay away.

Here's hoping the full release and translation follow quickly.

This is true, it's not a prediction anymore, it's a pattern.

[zamasu121]

The ending is extremely similar to how it went down in the anime, except for maybe a slightly happier tone.

[IM21]

no wonder people hate the manga in Japan

LOL, yea thats's why volume 3 is selling very well. I am sure they love to buy things that they hate.

[IM21]

Considering how many pages the previous volumes had, which chapter might end Volume 4?

It will probably have chapters 21-25, except if they wanna make it a 250 page volume, then it will have all the chapters until the end of the arc.

[mute_proxy]

The ending is extremely similar to how it went down in the anime, except for maybe a slightly happier tone.

Toriyama is into that happier tone unlikke Toei (take bardock's versions for instance)

It will probably have chapters 21-25, except if they wanna make it a 250 page volume, then it will have all the chapters until the end of the arc.

Thenks

[Kanassa]

Does Trunks have Dragon Ball branding on his shirt?

Also, did Zamasu lose the time ring?

[Lord Beerus]

So the Future Trunks ended in practically the same manner that the anime ended it. Zeno destroyed Future Trunks' universe, killing the immortal (Merged) Zamasu, Future Omni King is taken to Present Omni King and then Future Trunks and Future Mai time-travel to another universe.

Did I get that right?

[Lionel]

So the Future Trunks ended in practically the same manner that the anime ended it. Zeno destroyed Future Trunks' universe, killing the immortal (Merged) Zamasu, Future Omni King is taken to Present Omni King and then Future Trunks and Future Mai time-travel to another universe.

Did I get that right?

I think. Still doesn't explain the fates of the two Zamasus from Cell's and the unseen fourth timelines, though.

[Slaythe]

Trunks did nothing, Trunks did nothing, people with mantras again. Trunks was fundamental in the manga, he fought Black many times. Did Krilin do nothing in the Namek arc just because he was weaker than Freeza? No, Toriyama decided not to give him nonsensical power ups, same with Trunks in this arc, both did a lot in their arcs. Toyotaro followed Toriyama's plot, good for him. Trunks sacrifized so Goku and Vegeta could escape to get a solution. He cured Goku so he could fight and use the mastered SSB and the Hakai. He would have killed Black, if the defusion would have been normal.

If you mean he didn't had a huge power up to fight, ok, he didn't. Better that than nonsensical transformations or a spontaneous Genki ball added to his sword, which was nonsensical too.

I mean, THE FUTURE TRUNKS ARC gives Trunks a role as important as Krilin's, you might start questioning it.

Plus he didn't need a power up, he could have easily cut off the arm that had the ring. Anything at all. Not passively watching and letting Goku do everything. As if Goku's asspull was any better than making Trunks useful.

At least try, especially if Zeno is the end goal.

This was a very disappointing arc.

( I know Vegetto did but I don't care, nothin forced him to make the time ring useless in the first place )

[STH]

Does Trunks have Dragon Ball branding on his shirt?

Also, did Zamasu lose the time ring?

Chapter 20, page 5

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[Basako]

So the Future Trunks ended in practically the same manner that the anime ended it. Zeno destroyed Future Trunks' universe, killing the immortal (Merged) Zamasu, Future Omni King is taken to Present Omni King and then Future Trunks and Future Mai time-travel to another universe.

Did I get that right?

For now, it looks so. Nothing points something different, but I'd wait for confirmation in translations or more complete leaks.

[dbgtFO]

So the Future Trunks ended in practically the same manner that the anime ended it. Zeno destroyed Future Trunks' universe, killing the immortal (Merged) Zamasu, Future Omni King is taken to Present Omni King and then Future Trunks and Future Mai time-travel to another universe.

Did I get that right?

I think. Still doesn't explain the fates of the two Zamasus from Cell's and the unseen fourth timelines, though.

Only one new world is implied to have been created by Trunks' and Cell's travels in the Cell arc, as both the anime and manga has Gowasu note one new world was created recently.
It's either retconned or Toriyama believes Cell's timeline was overwritten with the new Future Trunks timeline and the unseen world was overwritten with the new main timeline, up until Zamasu took Goku's body.

[Zamasu55]

Trunks did NOTHING.

Jfc toyotaro.

You're right, the unexplained bullshit transformation he got in the anime is far better.

[Basako]

Trunks did nothing, Trunks did nothing, people with mantras again. Trunks was fundamental in the manga, he fought Black many times. Did Krilin do nothing in the Namek arc just because he was weaker than Freeza? No, Toriyama decided not to give him nonsensical power ups, same with Trunks in this arc, both did a lot in their arcs. Toyotaro followed Toriyama's plot, good for him. Trunks sacrifized so Goku and Vegeta could escape to get a solution. He cured Goku so he could fight and use the mastered SSB and the Hakai. He would have killed Black, if the defusion would have been normal.

If you mean he didn't had a huge power up to fight, ok, he didn't. Better that than nonsensical transformations or a spontaneous Genki ball added to his sword, which was nonsensical too.

I mean, THE FUTURE TRUNKS ARC gives Trunks a role as important as Krilin's, you might start questioning it.

Plus he didn't need a power up, he could have easily cut off the arm that had the ring. Anything at all. Not passively watching and letting Goku do everything. As if Goku's asspull was any better than making Trunks useful.

At least try, especially if Zeno is the end goal.

This was a very disappointing arc.

( I know Vegetto did but I don't care, nothin forced him to make the time ring useless in the first place )

Who cares what's the name of the arc, it's not his, that was just promotional name, because he was the hype in that moment. His importance is very similar to the Cell arc and Krilin was fundamental in the Namek arc. Trunks has done a lot in the manga, what he didn't do was to get a nonsensical power up transformation and a technique that didn't make any sense either.

It was a dissapointed arc, indeed, in the anime. If anything, the manga made it better.

Still doesn't explain the fates of the two Zamasus from Cell's and the unseen fourth timelines, though.

They may have never been triggered as the one who turned into Black was. The Champa arc wouldn't have happened there either, so no Godtube, no information about Goku or the super dragon balls.

[TheMikado]

I'm really like what I'm seeing but I don't see where Zeno destroyed the universe from the leaks I'm seeing. Just Zamasus? Or am I wrong? Also everyone was dead so no innocent kids for Zeno to kill I guess.

Love that Zamasu didn't become some ambiguous clue but this really makes me question if Toriyama even really wrote a real ending to this arc at all short of Zamasus invincibility kicks in and Goku calls Zeno who wipes out the universe. I'd love to see what was in the original outline assuming there was anything there at all.