"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Noah]

So Trunks had the same shitty ending in the anime? Living in another universe with doppelgangers? There is this scene to compensate too?

Finally, the Future Trunks arc is over. Trunks didn't do anything cool, and Zamasu turned into Metal Coola. The rest is pretty much the same. I would like to say that I'm looking forward to how Toyotaro handles the Universe Survival arc, but after the incredibly slow pacing of the Future Trunks arc, I find it hard to stay interested. Hopefully Toyotaro gives us some extra scenes of the other Universes or something to differentiate the manga from the anime.

My thoughts exactly, though I think I'll be more interested this time seeing Toyotaro approach on the current arc, but knowing I might get disappointed as usual.

[DHM211]

It'd be hilarious if the manga jumps right in to the tournament and spends like 1 page recapping everything the anime did before the tournament began(like it did with Resurrection 'F).

[Cursemark505]

Trunks did NOTHING.

Jfc toyotaro.

You're right, the unexplained bullshit transformation he got in the anime is far better.

If you're going to try to defend something, at least defend it on its own merits instead of deflecting and using straw man's. Trunks was still useless regardless of what happened in the anime

Besides, Trunks didn't really even get a new transformation. He got a bit bulkier and his hair got a little spikier. That's literally any generic Ssj transformation. The only new thing is the appearance of the aura.
The logic behind it is hardly bullshit since the angry power boost thing is a trait of the Saiyan's and has been done numerous times before with Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku. What is there to explain? The only bullshit thing about it is the size of the power jump but at least Trunks wasn't a background character.

[mute_proxy]

It'd be hilarious if the manga jumps right in to the tournament and spends like 1 page recapping everything the anime did before the tournament began(like it did with Resurrection 'F).

It won't. Remember the first trailer for the arc? There's quite a few things happening, an intro and then a whole ceremony (that was skipped in the anime) for the upcoming events.

[TheMikado]

Trunks did NOTHING.

Jfc toyotaro.

You're right, the unexplained bullshit transformation he got in the anime is far better.

If you're going to try to defend something, at least defend it on its own merits instead of deflecting and using straw man's. Trunks was still useless regardless of what happened in the anime

Besides, Trunks didn't really even get a new transformation. He got a bit bulkier and his hair got a little spikier. That's literally any generic Ssj transformation. The only new thing is the appearance of the aura.
The logic behind it is hardly bullshit since the angry power boost thing is a trait of the Saiyan's and has been done numerous times before with Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku. What is there to explain? The only bullshit thing about it is the size of the power jump but at least Trunks wasn't a background character.

The things you are taking as positive others consider negatives. Trunks went Goku and Vegeta for help because he couldn't do anything in the first place. Given the time frame it doesn't make sense for him to suddenly be able to pull Super overpowered moves out AFTER they have significantly powered up. Either of those moves could have taken Black out so the trip back wouldn't have been necessary in the first place. I'm not sure why Trunks needed a new transformation? The point of him being so strong as SSJ2 was to point out specifically that a transformation WASNT needed to get stronger.

[Chuquita]

I wasn't going to enjoy the ending to this arc unless it ended one ending earlier than it did anyway. I just don't like Omni King cleaning up the mess. I wanted to see Future Trunks pull off the win, or if not him, Vegetto.

I still like the arc as a whole though.

[TheSaiyanGod]

I dont understand. What did Trunks in the anime do with their new transformation?

He just held Black and Zamasu, because in the two fights they had, Trunks could not do anything. Against Gattai Zamasu, neither. And even if he managed to defeat him in the end, it did not help because he became the universe and Zeno destroyed his world.

[DHM211]

It'd be hilarious if the manga jumps right in to the tournament and spends like 1 page recapping everything the anime did before the tournament began(like it did with Resurrection 'F).

It won't. Remember the first trailer for the arc? There's quite a few things happening, an intro and then a whole ceremony (that was skipped in the anime) for the upcoming events.

That whole intro thing could take 10 pages, have 10 pages recapping Goku recruiting people, and then the rest of the chapter could be the equivalent of episode 96, with all the fighters gathering at the arena.

[Basako]

Trunks did NOTHING.

Jfc toyotaro.

You're right, the unexplained bullshit transformation he got in the anime is far better.

If you're going to try to defend something, at least defend it on its own merits instead of deflecting and using straw man's. Trunks was still useless regardless of what happened in the anime

Besides, Trunks didn't really even get a new transformation. He got a bit bulkier and his hair got a little spikier. That's literally any generic Ssj transformation. The only new thing is the appearance of the aura.
The logic behind it is hardly bullshit since the angry power boost thing is a trait of the Saiyan's and has been done numerous times before with Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku. What is there to explain? The only bullshit thing about it is the size of the power jump but at least Trunks wasn't a background character.

So that was Trunks SS2 with SSB equivalent power? That's new, but, hey, with all the clarifications we got, it's one more theory to the list. Always welcome.

The thing is, his response is fair, because ignoring all Trunks did in the arc just because he didn't got a power up leads to that. He fought Black three times, helped his friends escape, cured Goku and others in lesser grade and he did cut merged Zamasu and stab Black, although this meant no victory. The nonsense of the Genki sword didn't mean victory either, by the way.

I dont understand. What did Trunks in the anime do with their new transformation?

He just held Black and Zamasu, because in the two fights they had, Trunks could not do anything. Against Gattai Zamasu, neither. And even if he managed to defeat him in the end, it did not help because he became the universe and Zeno destroyed his world.

He did not more than in the manga, it was just fireworks. If only they had been good ones, I swear I would have praised them for it.

[Grimlock]

The only pro I can tell for now: finally this saga ended! Jesus Christ, let's hope Toyotaro doesn't waste time in the beginning of Universe Survival saga.

Cons: it's the same shit ending as the anime? Seriously? C'mon... No Kaioshin of Time? No paying for his crimes of time travelling? Fuck... I thought Toriyama and Toyotaro were better than this. Guess I overestimated them.

[mute_proxy]

It'd be hilarious if the manga jumps right in to the tournament and spends like 1 page recapping everything the anime did before the tournament began(like it did with Resurrection 'F).

It won't. Remember the first trailer for the arc? There's quite a few things happening, an intro and then a whole ceremony (that was skipped in the anime) for the upcoming events.

That whole intro thing could take 10 pages, have 10 pages recapping Goku recruiting people, and then the rest of the chapter could be the equivalent of episode 96, with all the fighters gathering at the arena.

Soo basically a whole chapter of intro. That's not bad. I like it that it went from a promotional thing, with skips and recaps, into something more of it's own.

[Basako]

The worst thing for now with difference, it may be the same ending of Trunks and Mai going to live with their copies. It's not confirmed yet, please, no...

[Yedis]

In the Manga preview of the Universal Survival Arc you saw two Zenos. I expected the same or similar ending TBF

[mfwlegend3]

Gohan's lack of recognition in this manga is hilarious.

[mute_proxy]

Gohan's lack of recognition in this manga is hilarious.

You mean like in the anime until the current arc?

[mfwlegend3]

Gohan's lack of recognition in this manga is hilarious.

You mean like in the anime until the current arc?

No, not even a comparison. Gohan hasn't been shown in the manga since the BoG arc. The anime had him both appear and speak frequently. His participation in the FT arc, while although brief, was a very nice touch. It's as though he doesn't exist in the manga, meanwhile. Even fucking Goten has had more dialogue.

[Totamo]

Oh look at that, zamasu runs away like a coward, turning him into even more of a wimp and because it's the same ending this makes the manga worse.

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

The worst thing for now with difference, it may be the same ending of Trunks and Mai going to live with their copies. It's not confirmed yet, please, no...

I agree, the manga already being different, can make a better ending then the anime. Honestly, the way they casually went to go live with copies of themselves always seemed kind of off.

[Zamasu55]

Oh look at that, zamasu runs away like a coward, turning him into even more of a wimp and because it's the same ending this makes the manga worse.

He's facing the King of All.
Seeing him scared is the best thing of this chapter.

[PeanutSaiyan]

Gohan's lack of recognition in this manga is hilarious.

You mean like in the anime until the current arc?

No, not even a comparison. Gohan hasn't been shown in the manga since the BoG arc. The anime had him both appear and speak frequently. His participation in the FT arc, while although brief, was a very nice touch. It's as though he doesn't exist in the manga, meanwhile. Even fucking Goten has had more dialogue.

Id rather him stay in the shadows story wise until until he's actually written something g worth a damn instead of the garbage screen time he's gotten in the anime.