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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by Shaddy » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:34 am

Her Luffy has only sounded the way he does since the timeskip, actually. I've watched Enies Lobby again recently and he's a lot higher and less gruff. She's trying to differentiate the voice since he's a 19 year old man, but it doesn't work great (it's tolerable...).

Her Gohan, while obviously a similar voice, doesn't sound all that Luffy though, if you ask me. If anything, it sounds like she's trying to sound like Kate Higgins' Tails or something, minus any joy, due to being Gohan, whose life kinda sucks.

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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by Scsigs » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:44 am

Shaddy wrote:Her Luffy has only sounded the way he does since the timeskip, actually. I've watched Enies Lobby again recently and he's a lot higher and less gruff. She's trying to differentiate the voice since he's a 19 year old man, but it doesn't work great (it's tolerable...).

Her Gohan, while obviously a similar voice, doesn't sound all that Luffy though, if you ask me. If anything, it sounds like she's trying to sound like Kate Higgins' Tails or something, minus any joy, due to being Gohan, whose life kinda sucks.
Pay attention to flashback. Her Luffy is the EXACT same as her Gohan in those scenes.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by Shaddy » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:56 am

Uh...what?

Flashback of what? Where? Which show are we talking about?

Is this one of those hidden camera shows where the people bite into the sandwich and it has a piece of paper in it that says "gravity is clockwise" and you think you kidna get the concept but in execution it's so far removed from one's own perception of reality that you can't comprehend it?

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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:39 pm

Shaddy wrote: :yawn: Uh...what?

Flashback of what? Where? Which show are we talking about?

Is this one of those hidden camera shows where the people bite into the sandwich and it has a piece of paper in it that says "gravity is clockwise" and you think you kidna get the concept but in execution it's so far removed from one's own perception of reality that you can't comprehend it?
I believe he was talking about One Piece.
Scsigs wrote:Her Luffy is the EXACT same as her Gohan in those scenes.
So, who would you have preferred for Gohan? I would have chosen either Brina Palencia or Luci Christian.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by Scsigs » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:55 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
Shaddy wrote: :yawn: Uh...what?

Flashback of what? Where? Which show are we talking about?

Is this one of those hidden camera shows where the people bite into the sandwich and it has a piece of paper in it that says "gravity is clockwise" and you think you kidna get the concept but in execution it's so far removed from one's own perception of reality that you can't comprehend it?
I believe he was talking about One Piece.
Scsigs wrote:Her Luffy is the EXACT same as her Gohan in those scenes.
So, who would you have preferred for Gohan? I would have chosen either Brina Palencia or Luci Christian.
Someone who just sounds different. Personally, I prefer Nadolny, so someone similar-sounding to her.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:11 pm

Scsigs wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
Shaddy wrote: :yawn: Uh...what?

Flashback of what? Where? Which show are we talking about?

Is this one of those hidden camera shows where the people bite into the sandwich and it has a piece of paper in it that says "gravity is clockwise" and you think you kidna get the concept but in execution it's so far removed from one's own perception of reality that you can't comprehend it?
I believe he was talking about One Piece.
Scsigs wrote:Her Luffy is the EXACT same as her Gohan in those scenes.
So, who would you have preferred for Gohan? I would have chosen either Brina Palencia or Luci Christian.
Someone who just sounds different. Personally, I prefer Nadolny, so someone similar-sounding to her.
Nadolny always sounded like a chain smoker to me.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by Scsigs » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:18 am

8000 Saiyan wrote:Nadolny always sounded like a chain smoker to me.
Meh, I don't see it. Nor do I see TeamForStar's saying she sounded like Bobby Hill.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by MR.Mark » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:50 am

The thing that annoyed me the most about Naldoy was her Arnold Swarzenegger "lawg la yeahahhh" frantic reactions she does. Volmer was just as anoying, with her Bulma having almost the same "le-ahhh" time and time again.

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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by DragonBallKing » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:50 pm

I'm not seeing how her gohan and luffy sound exactly the same.

post Cell Games Gohan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgoChJNpNTw
Luffy circa enies lobby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LWjn-kkqd0

Obviously they will sound similar, but there still different enough to tell apart.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by Scsigs » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:16 pm

MR.Mark wrote:The thing that annoyed me the most about Naldoy was her Arnold Swarzenegger "lawg la yeahahhh" frantic reactions she does. Volmer was just as anoying, with her Bulma having almost the same "le-ahhh" time and time again.
What?
DragonBallKing wrote:I'm not seeing how her gohan and luffy sound exactly the same.

post Cell Games Gohan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgoChJNpNTw
Luffy circa enies lobby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LWjn-kkqd0

Obviously they will sound similar, but there still different enough to tell apart.
They're both the exact same voice. The only difference is how deep she goes. Her Luffy is only a bit deeper than her Gohan, that's it.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by MR.Mark » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:49 pm

Scsigs wrote:
MR.Mark wrote:The thing that annoyed me the most about Naldoy was her Arnold Swarzenegger "lawg la yeahahhh" frantic reactions she does. Volmer was just as anoying, with her Bulma having almost the same "le-ahhh" time and time again.
What?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SzJwEWxkSA#t=3m30s

LAAAAAALWG! LAAA LAAAA AUGHHH!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v46NGQwERE#t=43s

Both Actresses were replaced for the better, by far.

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Post by DragonBallKing » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:00 pm

Scsigs wrote:
MR.Mark wrote:The thing that annoyed me the most about Naldoy was her Arnold Swarzenegger "lawg la yeahahhh" frantic reactions she does. Volmer was just as anoying, with her Bulma having almost the same "le-ahhh" time and time again.
What?
DragonBallKing wrote:I'm not seeing how her gohan and luffy sound exactly the same.

post Cell Games Gohan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgoChJNpNTw
Luffy circa enies lobby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LWjn-kkqd0

Obviously they will sound similar, but there still different enough to tell apart.
They're both the exact same voice. The only difference is how deep she goes. Her Luffy is only a bit deeper than her Gohan, that's it.
So? Nadolny's goku is just a less raspy version of her gohan. Does that not bother you?
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Post by Scsigs » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:54 pm

DragonBallKing wrote:So? Nadolny's goku is just a less raspy version of her gohan. Does that not bother you?
Not really, no. I think the main difference is that Colleen's voice can get very grating on the ears very fast. While I like Colleen's Luffy, I don't like her Gohan. It might also be how her male voice doesn't really work for Gohan, whereas it does, mostly, for Luffy, mostly because it actually sounds age-appropriate. Nadolny, I don't mind as either, really. Mostly because I think her voice actually works, though mostly for boys around Goku's age in Dragon Ball. Colleen's is ok for really young kids, but I don't really care for it for older males. Nadolny's the exact opposite.
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Post by Scsigs » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:56 pm

MR.Mark wrote:
Scsigs wrote:
MR.Mark wrote:The thing that annoyed me the most about Naldoy was her Arnold Swarzenegger "lawg la yeahahhh" frantic reactions she does. Volmer was just as anoying, with her Bulma having almost the same "le-ahhh" time and time again.
What?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SzJwEWxkSA#t=3m30s

LAAAAAALWG! LAAA LAAAA AUGHHH!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v46NGQwERE#t=43s

Both Actresses were replaced for the better, by far.
To be fair, you're judging from the earliest parts of the Z dub for Bulma, but then again, either of her English voices work for me.
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Post by ABED » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:04 pm

That wasn't the earliest part of the dub for Vollmer. That was from the redub
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Post by MR.Mark » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:20 pm

Indeed, and there's lots of examples from the Dragon Ball dub with her generic "reaction sounds".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGSgcBN1imw

It's funny, but valley girl tone or not, when she first did the role for Bulma it sounded like she was giving it her all, willing to scream and what not. Most of her Bulma sounds so phoned in half of the time.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:28 pm

MR.Mark wrote:Indeed, and there's lots of examples from the Dragon Ball dub with her generic "reaction sounds".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGSgcBN1imw

It's funny, but valley girl tone or not, when she first did the role for Bulma it sounded like she was giving it her all, willing to scream and what not. Most of her Bulma sounds so phoned in half of the time.
Maggie Blue O'Hara also had that valley girl tone to her.
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MR.Mark wrote:The thing that annoyed me the most about Naldoy was her Arnold Swarzenegger "lawg la yeahahhh" frantic reactions she does. Volmer was just as anoying, with her Bulma having almost the same "le-ahhh" time and time again.
Agreed, Nadolny sounded too Raspy and Scratchy and also the Tone was Monotonous compared to Clinkenbeard, even Hendersen and Harmony Gold Dub Goku sounded much better.
Also, I always found Tiffany Volmer's Bulma to be very forced with the Dialogue Delivery and very cheesy at times whereas the Bang Zoom Dub, Tfs Bulma and Monica Rial are much better than Volmer in sounding more smooth and Feminine and definitely not like an Annoying Valley Girl
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Post by ABED » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:23 am

Also, I always found Tiffany Volmer's Bulma to be very forced with the Dialogue Delivery and very cheesy at times whereas the Bang Zoom Dub, Tfs Bulma and Monica Rial are much better than Volmer in sounding more smooth and Feminine and definitely not like an Annoying Valley Girl
Even though I'm usually all for criticizing early FUNi performances, please stop including TFS on the list of dubs. It's not only because I dislike the product, it's because it's not DB. It's a DB parody.
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Re: Kai vs. Z Dub

Post by MR.Mark » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:20 pm

ABED wrote:
Also, I always found Tiffany Volmer's Bulma to be very forced with the Dialogue Delivery and very cheesy at times whereas the Bang Zoom Dub, Tfs Bulma and Monica Rial are much better than Volmer in sounding more smooth and Feminine and definitely not like an Annoying Valley Girl
Even though I'm usually all for criticizing early FUNi performances, please stop including TFS on the list of dubs. It's not only because I dislike the product, it's because it's not DB. It's a DB parody.
Gonna have to agree with this, I don't dislike the tfs parody, but it's just a parody, not a legit version of DB.

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