pacz360 wrote:
Who the hell underestimating Brianne? the strongest character in this series is a fucking Pokemon not to mention other examples where the whole don't judge a book by it's cover
Some in this thread sadly, for some reason I dont know if its because of her design or her character setup as a magical girl or both.
She's been portrayed as Vegeta's rival from the intro, dunno why she's getting underestimated. Is it because Vegeta was fighting in SS?
Look I get it. She has magical powers and what not. She's also one of the people to "look out for" in the tournament.
With that being said, it doesn't mean she's going to be the one to tank Vegeta. Both Goku and Vegeta are going to continue spamming Super Saiyan regardless of how tough their opponent is. So I think it's silly that everyone is making the assumption that Vegeta is going to get KOed by her based off of a two second showing.
Kale is one of the people to look out for and she's not going to tank a SSB Goku or Vegeta. The same people who were saying "Krillin is going far in this tournament because of all of his episodes" are the same ones saying Vegeta will be knocked out by her just from a moment of them fighting. Good grief
Edited: I stand corrected.... Apparently Kale can rival SSB
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precita wrote:It's entirely because the character is fat. If she stayed in her first form, the one with the green hair that looked good, people wouldn't have a problem with her being so strong. It's just that she looks like a fat, obese, ugly teletubby that people think she's weak or can't be strong.
As said, this is Dragonball. Everyone should know appearance does not determine how strong a character is. In this series the shortest characters or fattest characters are usually insanely powerful anyway.
If that's the case, that's pretty short sighted. She's not exactly a million miles away from Majin Buu looks wise and he wrecked everyone when he was introduced.
PLUS she's the strongest player in Universe 2 which is the counterpart to Universe 11(the strongest universe). I can't guarantee that means she's going to be insanely strong, but generally speaking it should indicate Universe 2 aren't total pushovers.
Favourite User quote:
Vice wrote:"Look at all these characters getting some shine in the buildup for the tournament of power, maybe we'll get to see some other characters do some stuff instead of the same old shit."
1. Goku (Universe 7) has eliminated 6 competitor & Vegeta (Universe 7) has eliminated 6 competitors
SansrivaaL wrote:
Some in this thread sadly, for some reason I dont know if its because of her design or her character setup as a magical girl or both.
She's been portrayed as Vegeta's rival from the intro, dunno why she's getting underestimated. Is it because Vegeta was fighting in SS?
Look I get it. She has magical powers and what not. She's also one of the people to "look out for" in the tournament.
With that being said, it doesn't mean she's going to be the one to tank Vegeta. Both Goku and Vegeta are going to continue spamming Super Saiyan regardless of how tough their opponent is. So I think it's silly that everyone is making the assumption that Vegeta is going to get KOed by her based off of a two second showing.
Kale is one of the people to look out for and she's not going to tank a SSB Goku or Vegeta. The same people who were saying "Krillin is going far in this tournament because of all of his episodes" are the same ones saying Vegeta will be knocked out by her just from a moment of them fighting. Good grief
I never said she's gonna beat Vegeta. But she's damn sure going to be a tough opponent
OLKv3 wrote:
She's been portrayed as Vegeta's rival from the intro, dunno why she's getting underestimated. Is it because Vegeta was fighting in SS?
Look I get it. She has magical powers and what not. She's also one of the people to "look out for" in the tournament.
With that being said, it doesn't mean she's going to be the one to tank Vegeta. Both Goku and Vegeta are going to continue spamming Super Saiyan regardless of how tough their opponent is. So I think it's silly that everyone is making the assumption that Vegeta is going to get KOed by her based off of a two second showing.
Kale is one of the people to look out for and she's not going to tank a SSB Goku or Vegeta. The same people who were saying "Krillin is going far in this tournament because of all of his episodes" are the same ones saying Vegeta will be knocked out by her just from a moment of them fighting. Good grief
I never said she's gonna beat Vegeta. But she's damn sure going to be a tough opponent
It wasn't necessarily directed towards you personally. It just happen to be the most recent post concerning it.
Caulifla didn't go SSJB. And her USSJ/ASSJ form only lasted for 20 seconds.
Crisis averted.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:Caulifla didn't go SSJB. And her USSJ/ASSJ form only lasted for 20 seconds.
Crisis averted.
LSSJ KALE> SSJB Goku. A delicious new crisis
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Lord Beerus wrote:Caulifla didn't go SSJB. And her USSJ/ASSJ form only lasted for 20 seconds.
Crisis averted.
LSSJ KALE> SSJB Goku. A delicious new crisis
It's not contradicting anything. We had no idea just how strong LSSJ Kale was. It's all fair game.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:Caulifla didn't go SSJB. And her USSJ/ASSJ form only lasted for 20 seconds.
Crisis averted.
LSSJ KALE> SSJB Goku. A delicious new crisis
It's not contradicting anything. We had no idea just how strong LSSJ Kale was. It's all fair game.
Broly Powa>God Power....Broly God confirmed Super OP XP
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
