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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by precita » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:13 pm

Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves. He was the kid/child we grew up with (most of us were close in age to Gohan as a kid when we first started watching DBZ), and when he aged into a teen and adult he settled into an everyday work style.

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:28 pm

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precita wrote:
Gohan just got back the power he had in the Buu saga. And now that he's in the forefront again, I don't see what's boring about him. Obviously in episodes he doesn't get much focus he's not going to be interesting in.
Gohan isnt a new character but if we can choose him....I also choose Gohan x10000. I've wanted to kick his ass since he was a kid.
Mind explaining why though? It's all good and well for stating you dislike a character but an explaination would really make such a dislike more understandable.
Honestly the generic couldnt stand his attitude. Then as he aged...every time he had a chance to redeem himself he screwed up. Cell? Got his father killed. Buu Arc? Drops the Potara and gets absorbed.

He has this massive power and spouts off about protecting people but puts in literally 0 effort into making sure he can.

I just see him as a screw up and somewhat of a hypocritical person.
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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by ssjprodigy » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:32 pm

not a new character but i really dislike vegeta and goten. vegeta just for his fans that are always hating on goku and goten for being a bad kid goku clone with no develpoment unlike his brother and father who are waaaay better characters and my favorites personally

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:33 pm

ssjprodigy wrote:not a new character but i really dislike vegeta and goten. vegeta just for his fans that are always hating on goku and goten for being a bad kid goku clone with no develpoment unlike his brother and father who are waaaay better characters and my favorites personally
See I love Goten because he seems worthy of being Gokus son.

Though I hate they wont let him have any scenes or development
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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by ssjprodigy » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:39 pm

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ssjprodigy wrote:not a new character but i really dislike vegeta and goten. vegeta just for his fans that are always hating on goku and goten for being a bad kid goku clone with no develpoment unlike his brother and father who are waaaay better characters and my favorites personally
See I love Goten because he seems worthy of being Gokus son.

Though I hate they wont let him have any scenes or development
i respect your opinion dude, but i dont get what you mean by being worthy of being goku's son like what traits differentiate himself from goku as a kid and what has he done in the entire series worth mention. say what you will about gohan but he's the 3rd most focused/beloved character in the the franchise and has motives that make him his own character

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:42 pm

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ssjprodigy wrote:not a new character but i really dislike vegeta and goten. vegeta just for his fans that are always hating on goku and goten for being a bad kid goku clone with no develpoment unlike his brother and father who are waaaay better characters and my favorites personally
See I love Goten because he seems worthy of being Gokus son.

Though I hate they wont let him have any scenes or development
i respect your opinion dude, but i dont get what you mean by being worthy of being goku's son like what traits differentiate himself from goku as a kid and what has he done in the entire series worth mention. say what you will about gohan but he's the 3rd most focused/beloved character in the the franchise and has motives that make him his own character
Yeah I respect those who like Gohan too...I just personally dont enjoy him. My previous post basically says why.

The fact that he is like Goku is why I like him. He idolizes his father, he seems like a legitimate member of the family. While from his first appearance Gohan doesnt seem like the child of either of his parents.
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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by ssjprodigy » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:50 pm

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See I love Goten because he seems worthy of being Gokus son.

Though I hate they wont let him have any scenes or development
i respect your opinion dude, but i dont get what you mean by being worthy of being goku's son like what traits differentiate himself from goku as a kid and what has he done in the entire series worth mention. say what you will about gohan but he's the 3rd most focused/beloved character in the the franchise and has motives that make him his own character
Yeah I respect those who like Gohan too...I just personally dont enjoy him. My previous post basically says why.

The fact that he is like Goku is why I like him. He idolizes his father, he seems like a legitimate member of the family. While from his first appearance Gohan doesnt seem like the child of either of his parents.
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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by Kanassa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:40 pm

precita wrote:Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves.
What are you talking about? Gohan was never a representation of the audience (The closest we have to that is Zeno), and saying that dislike of a character is only because he reminds them of themselves is a completely asinine statement. Nobody is the same. People can have legitimate reasons to dislike a character.
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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by Doctor. » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:50 pm

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precita wrote:Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves.
What are you talking about? Gohan was never a representation of the audience (The closest we have to that is Zeno), and saying that dislike of a character is only because he reminds them of themselves is a completely asinine statement. Nobody is the same. People can have legitimate reasons to dislike a character.
Yeah, I'm sure people don't dislike Gohan because his characterization is inconsistent and he's constantly backtracking on his development. I'm sure they hate him because he reminds them so much about their boring lives as top scholars with a hot wife.

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by Asura » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:53 pm

ssjprodigy wrote:not a new character but i really dislike vegeta and goten. vegeta just for his fans that are always hating on goku and goten for being a bad kid goku clone with no develpoment unlike his brother and father who are waaaay better characters and my favorites personally
You hate a character because of their fans? That's pretty petty.

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by Akyon » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:57 pm

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ssjprodigy wrote:not a new character but i really dislike vegeta and goten. vegeta just for his fans that are always hating on goku and goten for being a bad kid goku clone with no develpoment unlike his brother and father who are waaaay better characters and my favorites personally
You hate a character because of their fans? That's pretty petty.
Certain fans onslaught on your favourites over and over again can put you off their favourites if they crap on yours to look better. For example a Goku fan being crapped on by a Vegeta fan constantly telling him how much Goku sucks is going to eventually want them to see Vegeta get humiliated just to cause that annoyance some misery of their own.

Yeah, it's still petty but I can understand it. Sometimes people can sully you to certain things you previously didn't mind.
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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by precita » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:09 pm

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precita wrote:Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves.
What are you talking about? Gohan was never a representation of the audience (The closest we have to that is Zeno), and saying that dislike of a character is only because he reminds them of themselves is a completely asinine statement. Nobody is the same. People can have legitimate reasons to dislike a character.
Gohan always existed in DBZ as a character audiences could relate to. He was written that way from the start, almost like he was a self-insert character. His personality was a normal kid thrust into a life of fighting without caring about constantly getting stronger like Goku/Vegeta, he was alongside all powerful characters he looked up to like Goku and Piccolo and villains he had to fight against, and for western fans especially who grew up with DBZ first and not Dragonball, most of the original fanbase grew up alongside him. Why do you think Gohan's fanbase in the west especially is so huge?

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:14 am

precita wrote:
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precita wrote:Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves.
What are you talking about? Gohan was never a representation of the audience (The closest we have to that is Zeno), and saying that dislike of a character is only because he reminds them of themselves is a completely asinine statement. Nobody is the same. People can have legitimate reasons to dislike a character.
Gohan always existed in DBZ as a character audiences could relate to. He was written that way from the start, almost like he was a self-insert character. His personality was a normal kid thrust into a life of fighting without caring about constantly getting stronger like Goku/Vegeta, he was alongside all powerful characters he looked up to like Goku and Piccolo and villains he had to fight against, and for western fans especially who grew up with DBZ first and not Dragonball, most of the original fanbase grew up alongside him. Why do you think Gohan's fanbase in the west especially is so huge?
Just because people self-inserted as him doesn't mean he was written as one.

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

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GodKaio-Ken wrote:
ssjprodigy wrote:not a new character but i really dislike vegeta and goten. vegeta just for his fans that are always hating on goku and goten for being a bad kid goku clone with no develpoment unlike his brother and father who are waaaay better characters and my favorites personally
See I love Goten because he seems worthy of being Gokus son.

Though I hate they wont let him have any scenes or development
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Re: Worst new character in DBS

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precita wrote:Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves. He was the kid/child we grew up with (most of us were close in age to Gohan as a kid when we first started watching DBZ), and when he aged into a teen and adult he settled into an everyday work style.
In real life, we have to earn what we have. We aren't all silver spoon fed, ivory tower, trust fund kids. Gohan is like the kid who gets free scholarships to oxford, a big job waiting for him, and no matter how lazy he gets, a powerful family that will guarantee his success no matter what. No relatable at all.

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by ssjprodigy » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:56 am

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precita wrote:Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves. He was the kid/child we grew up with (most of us were close in age to Gohan as a kid when we first started watching DBZ), and when he aged into a teen and adult he settled into an everyday work style.
In real life, we have to earn what we have. We aren't all silver spoon fed, ivory tower, trust fund kids. Gohan is like the kid who gets free scholarships to oxford, a big job waiting for him, and no matter how lazy he gets, a powerful family that will guarantee his success no matter what. No relatable at all.
the heck what do you mean gohan lived in the woods with his family, he was home schooled all his life until he turned 16. unllike someone like kid trunks who is basically from the richest family in the world so he doesnt have to worry bout studying and being successful. gohan is the representation of kid from a poor family who has who worked hard by studying to get a successful career to help out his WIFE, DAUGHTER, mom, and brother. its inspiring as hell and dont bring up ox king cause his all his money got burned in the mountain. also videl helped him too by buying him books cause she knows how much this means to him. your for real sounding like that one kid in school whos always mad at the other kids for having a higher grade than you despite not knowing there background how hard they worked

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by Asura » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:11 pm

TBMx wrote:
precita wrote:Gohan is a representation of people watching Dragonball, so people who tend to dislike Gohan is because he's a representation of ourselves. He was the kid/child we grew up with (most of us were close in age to Gohan as a kid when we first started watching DBZ), and when he aged into a teen and adult he settled into an everyday work style.
In real life, we have to earn what we have. We aren't all silver spoon fed, ivory tower, trust fund kids. Gohan is like the kid who gets free scholarships to oxford, a big job waiting for him, and no matter how lazy he gets, a powerful family that will guarantee his success no matter what. No relatable at all.
I don't quite think a five year old being forced to fight grown men for the fate of the world is a very cushy and privileged position to be in. Or, y'know, continue fighting and training for people who want to take over the world until you're 9.

All the while he worked his ass off studying so he could become smart enough to get a good job.

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

Post by BlueBasilisk » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:33 pm

Asura wrote:I don't quite think a five year old being forced to fight grown men for the fate of the world is a very cushy and privileged position to be in. Or, y'know, continue fighting and training for people who want to take over the world until you're 9.

All the while he worked his ass off studying so he could become smart enough to get a good job.
This is why I love Gohan during the Great Saiyaman Saga but not so much during The Cell Games or as Ultimate Gohan. His passion lies in academics and it's great to see him be able to devote himself to that. He's not a fighting junkie like his father and that makes him interesting and distinct as a character. When he dons the orange and blue gi I just feel like I'm watching Diet Fat Free Goku. Might as well just watch Goku at that point, you know?

As for worst characters, I think I'd have to say Lavender. Nothing interesting going on personality–wise and his design makes me feel like he should be hosting a show about Moonshining on Discovery Channel. :lol:

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Re: Worst new character in DBS

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BlueBasilisk wrote: As for worst characters, I think I'd have to say Lavender. Nothing interesting going on personality–wise and his design makes me feel like he should be hosting a show about Moonshining on Discovery Channel. :lol:
lavender hosting a show is going to result bad rating.
    lavender or lavender is weak compared to his other two comrades but his ability and voice make him at least enjoyable,it just sucks he never had his rematch,what a waste of potential because seeing gohan babysitting/camping is boring,Christ bring me Saiyaman gohan vs the pride troopers
      U10 have forgettable characters design aside from murichim and lilibeu,I'm really not a fan of that universe due of the missed opportunities,I know none of them have character yet,I'm just judging how u10 is threated
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      The gr wrote:
      BlueBasilisk wrote: As for worst characters, I think I'd have to say Lavender. Nothing interesting going on personality–wise and his design makes me feel like he should be hosting a show about Moonshining on Discovery Channel. :lol:
      lavender hosting a show is going to result bad rating.
        lavender or lavender is weak compared to his other two comrades but his ability and voice make him at least enjoyable,it just sucks he never had his rematch,what a waste of potential because seeing gohan babysitting/camping is boring,Christ bring me Saiyaman gohan vs the pride troopers
          U10 have forgettable characters design aside from murichim and lilibeu,I'm really not a fan of that universe due of the missed opportunities,I know none of them have character yet,I'm just judging how u10 is threated
          Agreed I find U10 to have the worst character Design except Murichim and Lilibeu.
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