Dragonball Z - Season 3 Set

[MajinVejitaXV]

I always thought that he was talking about Planet Vegeta, not Freeza's men.

He was calling Planet Vegeta his "men"?

-Corey

[Guest]

Here's the second video glitch I was talking about. I wanted to get the other close up image but I gave up trying to pause it at the right spot. It goes by too fast.



I think someone wanted to see this one too.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Here's the second video glitch I was talking about. I wanted to get the other close up image but I gave up trying to pause it at the right spot. It goes by too fast.

I think someone wanted to see this one too.

Ah, so they put the "Freeza bukkake" scene back in. Poor Gohan, first he gets jizzed on, then he loses screen time. Oh well, we got more Piccolo shoulder...I think O_o;;

BEST. SETS. EVAR.

-Corey

[Kaboom]

Here's the second video glitch I was talking about. I wanted to get the other close up image but I gave up trying to pause it at the right spot. It goes by too fast.

I think this goes to say something.

[MajinVejitaXV]

I think this goes to say something.

Yeah. He needs a better program for screen capturing.

-Corey

[Vekurotto]

This isn't as bad as I thought, but I just don't like how Gohan is non-existent here.

[Tsukento]

3- "Don't piss of the God of love!" Was censored, for some reason.

6- The original Falconer score is used for the TV Broadcast track instead of the quasi-GT shit.

That's because what Dende said in the original wasn't anywhere close to that. The old line sounded more like a blooper that was thrown in by mistake as it ended up in the edited version as well.

Also, the set uses Faulconer's score because that was the TV broadcast music. They used a new score ONLY for the first and second seasons. It was obvious they weren't going to tool around with it. Especially when it was confirmed with the last set with the Ginyu episodes.

[Guest]

I think this goes to say something.

Yeah. He needs a better program for screen capturing.

-Corey

quite right. Although I have been using VLC Player which seems to be the preferred lossless PNG format you guys normally use. But yeah there is a delay from when I hit pause and when it actually pauses, so you get the idea. I guess I have to slow it down a lot more for these retarded "screen-shaking" shots.

[Lavender Saiyan]

5- The Bardock Flashback is still ass backwards.

Did Sonny Strait Re-record the lines?

Regarding Flashbacks. Did Phil Parsons and Justin Cook atleast Re-Dub for Nappa and Raditz?

[jjgp1112]

Just two more fucking weeks. I really want to get these sets for 40% off at Wal-Mart.

Edit: Took a look at the frieza pic. @ that one guy for doctoring the original pic and saying it'd look like all over-brightened. The colors are accurate, I must say.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Edit: Took a look at the Freeza pic. @ that one guy for doctoring the original pic and saying it'd look like all over-brightened. The colors are accurate, I must say.

I belive that was me.

[Akira]

Okay, I want to jump in here and say a couple things if I may. First off, I never said anything close to "these sets are perfect" or great or anything like that. I didn't go into detail about the negatives, but didn't deny them either.

That screen shaking/glowing outline stuff I noticed in a couple places, most notably in a scene with Super Saiyan Goku where his outline glows like that for a few seconds. It was the one error of that type that particularly stood out.

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Here are a few other tidbits based on the feedback I've read over since my last post:

-Yes, I DO believe Nappa and Raditz were re-dubbed by their voice actors from Seasons 1 and 2. I forgot to mention that part.

-I also believe parts of Krillin's lines were re-dubbed, but it is not as noticable because so many of the lines were the same, and the voice actor didn't change his variation of Krillin much over the years as the voice of that character. I can't quite pinpoint if it was all re-dubbed or just certain parts. I did notice lines that seemed to me to be different in small ways, but I couldn't recall for sure if it was actually different or not.

-Dende has been redubbed I believe. He sounds more child like now than he did originally. I'm almost positive that he was redubbed completely.

-Freeza and Goku have not been touched at all, re-dub wise, so anything they said originally is still in there I'm afriad. Use that to answer any questions regarding them.

-The Ginyu force members sounded like they'd been redubbed in many places if not all.

-And lastly, can we please stay on topic? I completely understand the hatred for the glaring errors in these sets. We ALL know what they are, and I'll be the first to admit that these are FAR from perfect. The purpose of me creating this topic was to simply inform my fellow members here of changes, good or bad, that exist in these sets.

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I've said it twice, and I'll say it once more, the one super positive thing about this set is the color adjustment that was done to make for a continuous color pallete throughout the episodes. I don't imply that this alone makes up for any of the terrible errors that were left in, or new errors that have been introduced as a result, but it is one of the most noteworthy pluses about this set that I truly like far above the original DVD releases of this saga.

I hated in the original that in some episodes Freeza's purple body parts looked almost pink at times and nearly indigo in others. Likewise, I hated Vegeta's jumpsuit appearing to be almost light blue in a few scenes, and looked jet black in the rest. Or Piccolo's varying shades of green throughout the saga, and Goku's reddish orange to neon-yellowish orange uniform changes from episode to episode.

Color consistancy is the one major plus to this set, if I had to say one thing that does make this set stand out from other releases, that would be it. Sure, the widescreen stuff really blows, and a lot of the dubbing errors suck too that weren't changed. However, those dub errors aren't any worse than the original release, which had the same poor dialog. At least there are SOME changes to it for the better.

It is what it is, and you knew going into this discussion that the widescreen deal was the same, and that there were going to be some glitched frames here and there. I make no denial, coverup or excuses for the widescreen stuff, that's just a piss poor decision on Funimation's part. I won't ever disagree with anyone on that point.

The frame glitches are -seemingly- far fewer than in seasons 1 and 2 though, and I do honestly think it is sort of nit-picking to hyper focus on them. As stated by others, they are there for a split instant, and many of the frames shown through this topic so far were barely noticable, if even noticed by me at all. I knew OF it from that one Super Saiyan Goku part I mentioned, but aside from that the rest are largely ignorable in comparison to consistant coloring, which again, is the one overiding positive of this set, along with Dub track with Japanese music, which I also enjoyed.

That's my basic opinion of the "features" and the pluses/minuses of this set. Please feel free to ask any further questions you have at this time. I'll be glad to try and answer as many of them as I can recall or know the answers to.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Here are a few other tidbits based on the feedback I've read over since my last post:

Awesome, thanks for your time.

-Yes, I DO believe Nappa and Raditz were re-dubbed by their voice actors from Seasons 1 and 2. I forgot to mention that part.

I believe that on the first run-through it was Sabat himself who filled in for both roles during that sequence. He fared all right, but it's nice that we have yet a little more consistency with the redub-- Cook and Parsons were great in that, and I was wondering whether or not they would lend their talents to this scene.

-I also believe parts of Krillin's lines were re-dubbed, but it is not as noticable because so many of the lines were the same, and the voice actor didn't change his variation of Krillin much over the years as the voice of that character. I can't quite pinpoint if it was all re-dubbed or just certain parts. I did notice lines that seemed to me to be different in small ways, but I couldn't recall for sure if it was actually different or not.

Not owning the actual set yet could make me wrong here, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Strait probably redubbed all his lines for this release. Every Kuririn line in the quasi-redubbed episodes of Season Two was re-recorded, and I maintain my feeling that Strait will (or rather has by this point, if I'm correct) continue on this path at least until Kuririn is blown to pieces by Freeza.

-Dende has been redubbed I believe. He sounds more child like now than he did originally. I'm almost positive that he was redubbed completely.

Ah, I suspected that he would be-- if not because the new and old Dende voices are so drastically different, then for the simple reason that Sabat likes to work with Laura Bailey (Kid Trunks, Dende) whenever possible. Even though I did like Ceyil Dellgadillo's Dende well-enough, I'm glad for the consisteny kept with Bailey and the newer version.

-Freeza and Goku have not been touched at all, re-dub wise, so anything they said originally is still in there I'm afriad. Use that to answer any questions regarding them.

Really? Not even to re-record their own lines? This one shocks the hell out of me, not so much where Schemmel is concerned, but because I thought for certain that with Chambers-Young having re-recorded in full for the last episodes of Season Two that she was going to redub Freeza altogether.

I actually find it a little hard to believe, but I'll hear Freeza for myself soon enough. If it is in fact the same recording, then that permanently freezes a lot of the dialogue for other characters and in particular explains why some of Vegeta's more stupid lines (like his "countdown," etc.) had to be left in.

-The Ginyu force members sounded like they'd been redubbed in many places if not all.

I was hoping for this, too. So the filler sequence on Kaio-sama's planet has these characters redubbed for the most part, then?

I'm gonna be pissed if Jheese was redubbed, because his role in the last six episodes of the Season Two set warranted that sort of thing more than the filler episodes do.

That's my basic opinion of the "features" and the pluses/minuses of this set. Please feel free to ask any further questions you have at this time. I'll be glad to try and answer as many of them as I can recall or know the answers to.

You've been pretty helful so far, Akira. Thanks for sharing!

I'll agree with him, too. It'd be nice if we could keep this thread's purpose as it was originally intended and defined by Akira.

EDIT: Shit, man. I forgot to ask . . . what about when Ginyu uses the Body Change for the fourth time and becomes Bulma? Did Brice Armstrong return to dub over that part, or do we still have Dale Kelley in that role?


~Da Lemmy

[Vekurotto]

Hey I've got a question. What's this infamous "countdown" that people keep referring to and what episode is it on?

I don't watch the dub but I assume that it's a terrible line since people talk negatively of it.

[MajinVejitaXV]

I've said it twice, and I'll say it once more, the one super positive thing about this set is the color adjustment that was done to make for a continuous color pallete throughout the episodes.

Um...not to be a dick, but the original (and by that, I mean DragonBox) episodes had a continuous palette to begin with. Just because FUNimation fucked it up variably before and now is fucking it up consistently isn't a cause for a pat on the back IMHO.

-Corey

[Akira]

Lil' Lemmy - Thanks for your input and further information. You're always quite kind and very insightful!

Edit: I think Ginyu was redubbed, but don't quote me on that, I'm not certain.

And to the last comment I missed, I will say this. No, this set is nowhere near on par with Dragonbox in any way, shape or form. It is what it is, but for $30, having color consistancy is a positive. Even if it doesn't compare, it is all some of us can afford.

[Drunken Master]

Hey I've got a question. What's this infamous "countdown" that people keep referring to and what episode is it on?

I don't watch the dub but I assume that it's a terrible line since people talk negatively of it.

Freeza's 5 minutes maybe...?

[TheMajinRedComet]

How about Tien and Yamcha? Were they redubbed?

[MagicBox]

How about Tenshinhan and Yamcha? Were they redubbed?

Darn it, you beat me to it by just a few minutes.

I would suspect that since Sabat has been redubbing a lot of his Vegeta lines, he would go back and fine-tune his performance as Yamcha as well. At least, I hope. As for Tenshinhan, he was voiced by one or two different actors in the Freeza episodes before John Burgmeier took over permanently in the Trunks saga, wasn't he? I would suspect that Mr. Burgmeier's come back and redubbed the character completely, since FUNi is aiming for consistancy with these sets, but confirmation would be nice.

Since we're asking, if they have been redubbed, has Chaozu been re-recorded along with them?

[Li'l Lemmy]

Lil' Lemmy - Thanks for your input and further information. You're always quite kind and very insightful!

Hey, don't worry about it. You're the one who's been helpful, giving us an ear on the audio weeks in advance of the actual release date.

Looking forward to conversing with you on future topics.

Edit: I think Ginyu was redubbed, but don't quote me on that, I'm not certain.

Bah, I'm betting he was. FUNimation has been going through quite the trouble to remove anyone no longer associated with their company from these sets.

Well . . . except that they like to leave in Dale Kelley's screams.

Hey I've got a question. What's this infamous "countdown" that people keep referring to and what episode is it on?

I don't watch the dub but I assume that it's a terrible line since people talk negatively of it.

I suppose there are worse lines, but it's just . . . one of those odd, stupid and unnecessary dialogue choices that runs so fast to get away from the original script that it trips over itself.

The "Countdown" bit takes place during the scene when Vegeta taunts 1st-form Freeza into transforming. Freeza agrees but asks for someone to give him a countdown beforehand, and after Vegeta responds with how ridiculous it is (ironically, speaking on behalf of the audience's viewpoint ), he hastily counts off "Okay, fine; 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1."

And to the last comment I missed, I will say this. No, this set is nowhere near on par with Dragonbox in any way, shape or form. It is what it is, but for $30, having color consistancy is a positive. Even if it doesn't compare, it is all some of us can afford.

Ne. Like Corey said, he wasn't trying to be a all-out super-elitist I-own-all-the-DragonBoxes 6.1 surroud sound dick about it-- he's just putting out that bit of information about the color palette as a courtesy to anyone who doesn't own the DragonBoxes so that we can all have a well-informed viewpoint regarding comparisons between the two releases. Remember, ignorance is our greatest enemy.


~Da Lemmy