Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:03 am

Its not okay for him to get eliminated early, him and Freeza are the only ones capable of actually backing up a full powered Goku, those 3 are on a league of their own compared to the others, now Gohan,Piccolo,Tien,17,18 and Roshi on the other hand can get eliminated early without hurting the story... well besides their fans.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by MrBlackFox » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:21 am

I'd like an early Vegeta elimination only if this means big things for Gohan
Dude still has to go mystic and shine, can't wait to see him do something badass, and I'm sure this time won't be disappointing
On the other hand, yeah, poor Vegeta, I'd prefer greatly to see Goku go out and Vegeta do the badass part for once ( no, vs Golden Frieza is not good for me because of Whis etc. Etc., you know)

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by HeroR » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:08 am

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precita wrote:But Vegeta never mentions them. Likewise it's not so much Vegeta himself, but him taking out is a serious blow to U7 being one of the strongest fighters there, and his loss will probably make Gohan, Piccolo and the others really start to get more serious and realize how high the stakes are.
So what gohan hasn't even mentions videl nor pan once in the tourney yet we know he's fighting for there sake
Plus you can find other ways to create tension that doesn't involve taking vegeta out early in the game.
Gohan has mentioned Pan and Videl before the exhibition match and when he was trying to get stronger, to which Piccolo said he was focusing too much on protecting them. So Gohan doesn't need to keep talking about them since Piccolo said this is actually not a good thing. While Vegeta never mentions protecting his family, he outright scoffs at working with his team since he feels he can solo everyone, and was more than willing to just go with nine people.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:39 am

Akyon wrote:I agree with the drama part.

Vegeta being taken out would be a pretty massive blow for U7 as Champa himself said and with Goku turning his attention to Jiren and Toppo, there's very few other characters in U7 to keep Frieza in check; possibly Gohan and that's it.
17 too, 17 is at the very very least equal to Gohan i personally think 17 is stronger than Gohan considering 17 was holding back in the Goku fight and never used his full power.
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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Mercenary » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:43 am

HeroR wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
precita wrote:But Vegeta never mentions them. Likewise it's not so much Vegeta himself, but him taking out is a serious blow to U7 being one of the strongest fighters there, and his loss will probably make Gohan, Piccolo and the others really start to get more serious and realize how high the stakes are.
So what gohan hasn't even mentions videl nor pan once in the tourney yet we know he's fighting for there sake
Plus you can find other ways to create tension that doesn't involve taking vegeta out early in the game.
Gohan has mentioned Pan and Videl before the exhibition match and when he was trying to get stronger, to which Piccolo said he was focusing too much on protecting them. So Gohan doesn't need to keep talking about them since Piccolo said this is actually not a good thing. While Vegeta never mentions protecting his family, he outright scoffs at working with his team since he feels he can solo everyone, and was more than willing to just go with nine people.

Yes, but he doesn't have to mention them, lol. Vegeta isn't a type of sensitive guy who unbosoms himself to the others. He is that "bad boy" type which many girls love. He cared in BOG arc when Beerus slapped Bulma and he cares now. Probably even more, because of his development and new child.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Shinda Forever » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:38 am

precita wrote:Vegeta definitely should go down early, and I think he's going down third after Tenshinhan if the ending is any indication.

His character wouldn't be wasted either because he already did so much. He fought alongside Goku and eliminated all of Universe 9, we saw him take on Botamo/Magnetta for a while, we saw him fight some random characters in the background and now he's fighting Brianne.
There is no way vegeta will go down early unless you believe that Hitto is going to beat him a second time.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Zamasu55 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:46 am

No, it's not okay.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Shinda Forever » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:56 am

Zamasu55 wrote:No, it's not okay.
Why not?

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Super_Divine_Genki » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:34 am

I don't want Vegeta to be eliminated until very near the end, if it comes down to that. He had previously been thrown way to the background post-Zamasu arc, and an early elimination would add further disappointment, imo. Also, I'm looking for him to pull out something new during these battles because his character has gotten quite stale by now, in a fighting sense. For U7, I wouldn't be surprised if the Final Four were Vegeta, Freeza, Gohan, and Piccolo, after Goku gets in a super show-stealing performance before getting eliminated in some odd way. It would be somewhat symbolic that Goku has always carried the heavy load previously in his universe, and that others (mainly Vegeta and Freeza) would get to show what they're made of when it comes to representing survival of their universe when it gets down to the nitty-gritty.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by omaro34 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:44 am

I certainly wouldn't mind. Vegeta has had more than his share in every arc. It would make the story more unpredictable and U7 would be in a predicament it didn't expect to be in.

Of course, while Goku is fighting the big guns, Vegeta would be growling and clenching his fists while sitting with Beerus and the others, upset that Goku is getting the good fights.
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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Gray Riders » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:48 am

omaro34 wrote:I certainly wouldn't mind. Vegeta has had more than his share in every arc. It would make the story more unpredictable and U7 would be in a predicament it didn't expect to be in.
Agreed. Vegeta's gotten more than enough screentime throughout the series and it would be nice for more focus on characters who sat in the background for a long time and will almost certainly go back to the background once this arc is over.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:51 am

Super_Divine_Genki wrote:I don't want Vegeta to be eliminated until very near the end, if it comes down to that. He had previously been thrown way to the background post-Zamasu arc, and an early elimination would add further disappointment, imo. Also, I'm looking for him to pull out something new during these battles because his character has gotten quite stale by now, in a fighting sense. For U7, I wouldn't be surprised if the Final Four were Vegeta, Freeza, Gohan, and Piccolo, after Goku gets in a super show-stealing performance before getting eliminated in some odd way. It would be somewhat symbolic that Goku has always carried the heavy load previously in his universe, and that others (mainly Vegeta and Freeza) would get to show what they're made of when it comes to representing survival of their universe when it gets down to the nitty-gritty.
I see 17 making it in the finals too, there's no way they bring him back if he's not going to have his fair share of screen time, i doubt Piccolo will go that far unless they will be using him for another Gohan power up. as for Vegeta i think he should go early for reasons i stated above, there's nothing new to explore with him and he already fought for the sake of earth before, also there's no way Goku isn't going to be the last man standing he's THE LEAD.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Shinda Forever » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:56 am

Lapislettuce wrote:
Super_Divine_Genki wrote:I don't want Vegeta to be eliminated until very near the end, if it comes down to that. He had previously been thrown way to the background post-Zamasu arc, and an early elimination would add further disappointment, imo. Also, I'm looking for him to pull out something new during these battles because his character has gotten quite stale by now, in a fighting sense. For U7, I wouldn't be surprised if the Final Four were Vegeta, Freeza, Gohan, and Piccolo, after Goku gets in a super show-stealing performance before getting eliminated in some odd way. It would be somewhat symbolic that Goku has always carried the heavy load previously in his universe, and that others (mainly Vegeta and Freeza) would get to show what they're made of when it comes to representing survival of their universe when it gets down to the nitty-gritty.
I see 17 making it in the finals too, there's no way they bring him back if he's not going to have his fair share of screen time, i doubt Piccolo will go that far unless they will be using him for another Gohan power up. as for Vegeta i think he should go early for reasons i stated above, there's nothing new to explore with him and he already fought for the sake of earth before, also there's no way Goku isn't going to be the last man standing he's THE LEAD.
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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by sintzu » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:01 pm

Of course it's not OK, why take out someone as developed (and strong) as Vegeta instead of weak characters who never do anything ?
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Post by Shinda Forever » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:51 pm

sintzu wrote:Of course it's not OK, why take out someone as developed (and strong) as Vegeta instead of weak characters who never do anything ?
Just for shock value and drama since Vegeta would be a big loss for U7.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Kishido » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:56 pm

for the tension it would be awesome.

Just think about Vegeta being eliminated and the reactions to it. Beerus would start to worry and maybe even Goku would understand what the stake is without joking around

Gohan on the other hand would take even more responsibility

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Akyon » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:04 pm

sintzu wrote:Of course it's not OK, why take out someone as developed (and strong) as Vegeta instead of weak characters who never do anything ?
Because Roshi or Tien going out isn't as big a blow to the team and doesn't create any momentary fleeting sense of drama nor surprise.
U7 thus far has managed to KO every opponent they've come across bar Frost suckerpunching Krillin, and Caulifla and Kale due to some "I want to fight you later" antics from Goku(seemingly forgetting that at most 'later' will be in half an hour since one of their universes will cease to exist past that point).

Champa said himself Goku and Vegeta were the biggest threats. Logically, to be honest, GOKU should be the one getting his ass tossed out since he's got a death wish going straight for Jiren, being the number one target for every single person there and letting his guard down every ten seconds, but we know due to plot reasons Goku won't be the one to go down. Hit should be targetting one of the two at the very least for the survival of himself and his team mates.
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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Slaythe » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:20 pm

Akyon wrote:
sintzu wrote:Of course it's not OK, why take out someone as developed (and strong) as Vegeta instead of weak characters who never do anything ?
Because Roshi or Tien going out isn't as big a blow to the team and doesn't create any momentary fleeting sense of drama nor surprise.
U7 thus far has managed to KO every opponent they've come across bar Frost suckerpunching Krillin, and Caulifla and Kale due to some "I want to fight you later" antics from Goku(seemingly forgetting that at most 'later' will be in half an hour since one of their universes will cease to exist past that point).

Champa said himself Goku and Vegeta were the biggest threats. Logically, to be honest, GOKU should be the one getting his ass tossed out since he's got a death wish going straight for Jiren, being the number one target for every single person there and letting his guard down every ten seconds, but we know due to plot reasons Goku won't be the one to go down. Hit should be targetting one of the two at the very least for the survival of himself and his team mates.
Champa only said that because Gohan Frieza and 17 were not part of the previous tournament. He doesn't know them. Frieza and Gohan are not transformed and he can't feel 17's power. So that's an easy mistake.

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by pacz360 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:36 pm

Goku,vegeta,gohan,17,Frieza should be the last five standing for u7 to hell with anything else

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Re: Why it's okay for Vegeta to get eliminated early.

Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:46 pm

Akyon wrote:
sintzu wrote:Of course it's not OK, why take out someone as developed (and strong) as Vegeta instead of weak characters who never do anything ?
Because Roshi or Tien going out isn't as big a blow to the team and doesn't create any momentary fleeting sense of drama nor surprise.
U7 thus far has managed to KO every opponent they've come across bar Frost suckerpunching Krillin, and Caulifla and Kale due to some "I want to fight you later" antics from Goku(seemingly forgetting that at most 'later' will be in half an hour since one of their universes will cease to exist past that point).

Champa said himself Goku and Vegeta were the biggest threats. Logically, to be honest, GOKU should be the one getting his ass tossed out since he's got a death wish going straight for Jiren, being the number one target for every single person there and letting his guard down every ten seconds, but we know due to plot reasons Goku won't be the one to go down. Hit should be targetting one of the two at the very least for the survival of himself and his team mates.
Because Champa only knows about Goku and Vegeta, he doesn't know anything about 17 or Frieza.

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