"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Zamasu55]

Say all you want about the manga, but at least power levels make sense there.

Power levels don't mean much if you're making a less interesting version. Because of that bulshit FT Trunks is nothing more than a supporting character on his own arc in the manga.

The audience wants to be entertained and the biggest part of it isn't watching Super with calculators next to them to make sure the numbers are right. Like it or not, power levels don't make sense since Freeza arc and they were introduced in Saiyan arc only to proof how wrong they can be.

I don't give a crap if it's his own arc. He's a Ssj2 and a Ssj2 can't handle Rosè, Blue and fusions unless they give us a proper explanation.

[FortuneSSJ]

I don't give a crap if it's his own arc.

I do. Goku/Vegeta are having their cool moments since DBS began. There's no reason to put FT Trunks on the sidelines in his own arc, when it's his fight on his timeline.

[Zamasu55]

I don't give a crap if it's his own arc.

I do. Goku/Vegeta are having their cool moments since DBS began. There's no reason to put FT Trunks on the sidelines in his own arc, when it's his fight on his timeline.

So you're fine with the bullshit Toei pulled. Okay...

[OLKv3]

Nice writing Toyo

[The gr]

Nice writing Toyo

This is some clever writing,who knew zamas had a lot of similarity to a race he despise

[Zephyr]

Nice writing Toyo

Its like pottery.

[TheMikado]

Nice writing Toyo

Its like pottery.

Poetry?

[Miracles]

Nice writing Toyo

That's a good find. BTW did Zamasu multiplying ever get explained in the manga?
I know in the anime he became the universe and his faces spread over it depicted that.

[TheMikado]

Nice writing Toyo

That's a good find. BTW did Zamasu multiplying ever get explained in the manga?
I know in the anime he became the universe and his faces spread over it depicted that.

Yes something about he heals at a cellular level or something like that

[Miracles]

Nice writing Toyo

That's a good find. BTW did Zamasu multiplying ever get explained in the manga?
I know in the anime he became the universe and his faces spread over it depicted that.

Yes something about he heals at a cellular level or something like that

Ah. Thank you.

[SansrivaaL]

Say all you want about the manga, but at least power levels make sense there.

Power levels don't mean much if you're making a less interesting version. Because of that bulshit FT Trunks is nothing more than a supporting character on his own arc in the manga.

The audience wants to be entertained and the biggest part of it isn't watching Super with calculators next to them to make sure the numbers are right. Like it or not, power levels don't make sense since Freeza arc and they were introduced in Saiyan arc only to proof how wrong they can be.

I don't give a crap if it's his own arc. He's a Ssj2 and a Ssj2 can't handle Rosè, Blue and fusions unless they give us a proper explanation.

^basically.
I actually hoped in the anime back then that if Future Trunks does become the one to kill MZamasu then I want it by Trunks catching him off guard or Vegetto getting tired of toying with MZamasu and beats him to a pulp where he cant move anymore and he decides to give Trunks the final blow, but then what we got was Trunks fighting toe to toe with MZamasu... christ.

[LightBing]

This talk about Trunks being a supporting character..., isn't he actually the main character of the arc with Vegeta and Goku being his support?

The first third of the arc is focused greatly on him, providing lengthy backstory to a degree rarely seen in the manga. I think only Trunks Story explored so much of a character and that was a special chapter.
Then him, the hero, recruits his "weapons" Goku and Vegeta to fight Black. In key moments he comes to the aid of them, saving them once and healing Goku later. He's even given the final sword swing to set in motion the closing of the arc, clearly Mr.Toriyama's intention.

He's the one who suffers the most through the arc, he's the one who's fought Black the most times and I'm not talking about off-screen. He's the one who we care more about.
Ultimately he is the one who's had the most effect in the events.

I know Dragon Ball is all about fighting, however does him being absent for the, let's call it obligatory fighting(which contains Goku's and Vegeta's character focus), besides in his key interventions take way from a narrative completely manufactured around him.

Truly think about this arc; it's all about Zamasu/Black and Trunks. For most other characters, this is just a struggle in their travels and a set up for what's to come.

[Lupin879]

The saga was very disappointing in the manga. Nothing to do with animes. Hell is full of plot holes. Kaioshin Zamas or assistant? How could he use the ring? So if only the earring, just a theory, why did not they also carry Kibit? Zamasu that multiplies? Kaioshin tells Zamasu that he can not go back to the past, but like them with the ring I can do this and he does not? Not to mention Trunks nurse.

[FortuneSSJ]

I actually hoped in the anime back then that if Future Trunks does become the one to kill MZamasu then I want it by Trunks catching him off guard or Vegetto getting tired of toying with MZamasu and beats him to a pulp where he cant move anymore and he decides to give Trunks the final blow, but then what we got was Trunks fighting toe to toe with MZamasu... christ.

What we got in the anime was SSIkari FT Trunks fighting a weakened Merged Zamasu, who took a father-son galick gun, Goku's kamehameha, Goku's kaioken kick and almost got killed by SSB Vegetto.

[dbzfan7]

I actually hoped in the anime back then that if Future Trunks does become the one to kill MZamasu then I want it by Trunks catching him off guard or Vegetto getting tired of toying with MZamasu and beats him to a pulp where he cant move anymore and he decides to give Trunks the final blow, but then what we got was Trunks fighting toe to toe with MZamasu... christ.

What we got in the anime was SSIkari FT Trunks fighting a weakened Merged Zamasu, who took a father-son galick gun, Goku's kamehameha, Goku's kaioken kick and almost got killed by SSB Vegetto.

He wasn't weakened by any of that. Hell he's smirking and doing a Jesus Christ pose with his fight from Vegetto talking about how he's hot shit and stuff. I don't get he's totally weakened when he seems perfectly ok with no real damage, can regenerate, and goes on about being the ultimate god without a care or feeling threatened.

[dbgtFO]

Nice writing Toyo
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I do like how in both mediums there's this symbolic visual callback to Zamas becoming exactly, what he despised.
The anime of course takes it further with him hulking out and coming to resemble the Babarians even more and then when before he struck down at the filthy mortal, showing "God" coming from above and striking down, now it's reversed and the filthy mortal comes from below and strikes upwards, showing that even a mortal can reach into the world above and challenge "God."

[FortuneSSJ]

He wasn't weakened by any of that. Hell he's smirking and doing a jesus christ pose with his fight from Vegetto talking about how he's hot shit and stuff. I don't get he's totally weakened when he seems perfectly ok and can regenerate.

I don't think he seemed perfectly okay when he screamed like this.
He only got a double face after Goku hit him with his kamehameha and Gowasu connected that to the internal conflict that was happening inside him. He was taking damage both physically and mentally.

[dbzfan7]

He wasn't weakened by any of that. Hell he's smirking and doing a jesus christ pose with his fight from Vegetto talking about how he's hot shit and stuff. I don't get he's totally weakened when he seems perfectly ok and can regenerate.

I don't think he seemed perfectly okay when he screamed like this.
He only got a double face after Goku hit him with his kamehameha and Gowasu connected that to the internal conflict that was happening inside him. He was taking damage both physically and mentally.

This is literally him after taking a Final Kamehameha head on


So his idea of being a god is...getting his ass kicked? He took everything head on, has no scratch on him, and he's fine. Not too mention if anything, he made himself even more powerful in that scene. Hence bulking up and starting to take them more seriously. So much so they had to fuse. And that's after Goku Bullshits himself into overpowering the more powerful Zamasu, after Vegeta and Trunks did it together.

He spent the whole time fighting Vegetto here, and unlike Boo who makes it perfectly clear he's on his final ropes, Zamasu acts perfectly fine. He doesn't appear fatigued or weakened in any way. He's in fact flaunting his power and god status. This was again, after Vegetto said he was going to end this, and fired a Final Kamehameha right at him. Vegetto is also displeased his Final Kamehameha didn't even do much to Zamasu at all.

[SansrivaaL]

He wasn't weakened by any of that. Hell he's smirking and doing a jesus christ pose with his fight from Vegetto talking about how he's hot shit and stuff. I don't get he's totally weakened when he seems perfectly ok and can regenerate.

I don't think he seemed perfectly okay when he screamed like this.
He only got a double face after Goku hit him with his kamehameha and Gowasu connected that to the internal conflict that was happening inside him. He was taking damage both physically and mentally.

That was more like him pissed off than hurt... you know... since he despises Goku.
Hell he was getting stronger rather than in pain when he was morphing, the guy took a Final Kamehame ha and came out like nothing happened.

[dbzfan7]

He wasn't weakened by any of that. Hell he's smirking and doing a jesus christ pose with his fight from Vegetto talking about how he's hot shit and stuff. I don't get he's totally weakened when he seems perfectly ok and can regenerate.

I don't think he seemed perfectly okay when he screamed like this.
He only got a double face after Goku hit him with his kamehameha and Gowasu connected that to the internal conflict that was happening inside him. He was taking damage both physically and mentally.

That was more like him pissed off than hurt... you know... since he despises Goku.
Hell he was getting stronger rather than in pain when he was morphing, the guy took a Final Kamehame ha and came out like nothing happened.

I literally posted the image of his Jesus Christ pose after the Final Kamehameha, which Vegetto said he'd end things with. He then appears pissed his attack didn't even phase Zamasu. Probably because Zamasu can regenerate. I mean compare Super Boo to Zamasu and how they fought Vegetto. Super Boo visibly and mentally showed he was in big trouble. That he was getting his ass kicked and he knew he would die if he didn't desperately come up with a solution. Meanwhile Zamasu doesn't show any of that. He is full of confidence, and never appears to slow down or remain harmed. Even Boo showed signs of this as his regen factor was being taxed.