"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[vashter]

so far we have 2 leaks / rumors
1. goku birth new form
2. vegeta vs hit

[Baggie_Saiyan]

#17 & SSGSS Vegeta gashapon for the DBSvsDB line wave 6
5... Of course Broly too cuz why not!

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Wave 4 coloured :
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[GodKaio-Ken]

so far we have 2 leaks / rumors
1. goku birth new form
2. vegeta vs hit

Vegeta vs Hit is interesting because not only is it a rematch but if either is eliminated its not going to make them look too good. Vegeta is a main with one loss already and Hit is the super hyped up assassin who is Gokus rival.


Other thought: How is Kale going to rest? Does she seriously need like...2 seconds? The tournament is only 48 minutes how can she pass out and come back?

[Will]

Someone ask Toshio who was stronger Vegeta or Hit.

Toshio only said that he doesn't know now and that he was looking forward for their next match.

That doesn't necessary mean that there is going to be a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the Tournament.
It could just mean that he is looking forward for a rematch between Hit vs Vegeta.

And if there was a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the TOP, Toshio would know the result of the match and he would know who is stronger even if he can't tell.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Someone ask Toshio who was stronger Vegeta or Hit.

Toshio only said that he doesn't know now and that he was looking forward for their next match.

That doesn't necessary mean that there is going to be a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the Tournament.
It could just mean that he is looking forward for a rematch between Hit vs Vegeta.

And if there was a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the TOP, Toshio would know the result of the match and he would know who is stronger even if he can't tell.

NO! Instead of telling people to harass the poor guy, just friggin' wait and see what plays out! It is not that hard and what the whole point of watching a weekly show is for!

I get it the DB fandom outside Japan are not used to watching DB weekly but this getting more and more pathetic and ridiculous every week.

Next arc Toei should just put a spoilers list on their website detailed all the major events 'cuz that is clearly what some people want...

[Dragonballgod19]

Someone ask Toshio who was stronger Vegeta or Hit.

Toshio only said that he doesn't know now and that he was looking forward for their next match.

That doesn't necessary mean that there is going to be a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the Tournament.
It could just mean that he is looking forward for a rematch between Hit vs Vegeta.

And if there was a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the TOP, Toshio would know the result of the match and he would know who is stronger even if he can't tell.

Dude it's obvious there going to be a rematch with them and he said the same for goku new form so yeah it's going to happen

[Simere]

Someone ask Toshio who was stronger Vegeta or Hit.

Toshio only said that he doesn't know now and that he was looking forward for their next match.

That doesn't necessary mean that there is going to be a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the Tournament.
It could just mean that he is looking forward for a rematch between Hit vs Vegeta.

And if there was a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the TOP, Toshio would know the result of the match and he would know who is stronger even if he can't tell.

NO! Instead of telling people to harass the poor guy, just friggin' wait and see what plays out! It is not that hard and what the whole point of watching a weekly show is for!

I get it the DB fandom outside Japan are not used to watching DB weekly but this getting more and more pathetic and ridiculous every week.

Next arc Toei should just put a spoilers list on their website detailed all the major events 'cuz that is clearly what some people want...

He used the wrong tense in the beginning; he's giving his assessment of the answer Toshio already gave.

Dude it's obvious there going to be a rematch with them and he said the same for goku new form so yeah it's going to happen

He didn't say the same for Goku's new form.

[Dragonballgod19]

Someone ask Toshio who was stronger Vegeta or Hit.

Toshio only said that he doesn't know now and that he was looking forward for their next match.

That doesn't necessary mean that there is going to be a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the Tournament.
It could just mean that he is looking forward for a rematch between Hit vs Vegeta.

And if there was a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the TOP, Toshio would know the result of the match and he would know who is stronger even if he can't tell.

NO! Instead of telling people to harass the poor guy, just friggin' wait and see what plays out! It is not that hard and what the whole point of watching a weekly show is for!

I get it the DB fandom outside Japan are not used to watching DB weekly but this getting more and more pathetic and ridiculous every week.

Next arc Toei should just put a spoilers list on their website detailed all the major events 'cuz that is clearly what some people want...

He used the wrong tense in the beginning; he's giving his assessment of the answer Toshio already gave.

Dude it's obvious there going to be a rematch with them and he said the same for goku new form so yeah it's going to happen

He didn't say the same for Goku's new form.

He something about the birth of goku new form idk and I think this guy needs to be careful about what he says.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Someone ask Toshio who was stronger Vegeta or Hit.

Toshio only said that he doesn't know now and that he was looking forward for their next match.

That doesn't necessary mean that there is going to be a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the Tournament.
It could just mean that he is looking forward for a rematch between Hit vs Vegeta.

And if there was a "Hit vs Vegeta" in the TOP, Toshio would know the result of the match and he would know who is stronger even if he can't tell.

NO! Instead of telling people to harass the poor guy, just friggin' wait and see what plays out! It is not that hard and what the whole point of watching a weekly show is for!

I get it the DB fandom outside Japan are not used to watching DB weekly but this getting more and more pathetic and ridiculous every week.

Next arc Toei should just put a spoilers list on their website detailed all the major events 'cuz that is clearly what some people want...

He used the wrong tense in the beginning; he's giving his assessment of the answer Toshio already gave.

Dude it's obvious there going to be a rematch with them and he said the same for goku new form so yeah it's going to happen

He didn't say the same for Goku's new form.

Regardless my point still stands, it's ridiculous to even bring it up and how people are now analysing every damn thing he is saying. It just shows how pathetic the fan base truly is and YTubers are only making things worse. Not to mention he can't even speak English fluently that alone shouldn't take anything he types seriously to the point people are.

[Dragonballgod19]

NO! Instead of telling people to harass the poor guy, just friggin' wait and see what plays out! It is not that hard and what the whole point of watching a weekly show is for!

I get it the DB fandom outside Japan are not used to watching DB weekly but this getting more and more pathetic and ridiculous every week.

Next arc Toei should just put a spoilers list on their website detailed all the major events 'cuz that is clearly what some people want...

He used the wrong tense in the beginning; he's giving his assessment of the answer Toshio already gave.

Dude it's obvious there going to be a rematch with them and he said the same for goku new form so yeah it's going to happen

He didn't say the same for Goku's new form.

Regardless my point still stands, it's ridiculous to even bring it up and how people are now analysing every damn thing he is saying. It just shows how pathetic the fan base truly is and YTubers are only making things worse. Not to mention he can't even speak English fluently that alone shouldn't take anything he types seriously to the point people are.

Yeah but whatever he says always ends up happening you should look up his old tweets

[Simere]

He something about the birth of goku new form idk and I think this guy needs to be careful about what he says.

We're the ones who should be careful. He said he's expecting a new form; the use of the word "expecting" means he's not saying it will happen, just that he hopes it will, as he (needlessly) clarified later.

We also know he barely understands English, so parsing his syntax and grammar to use as "truth" in arguments is a joke.

Regardless my point still stands, it's ridiculous to even bring it up and how people are now analysing every damn thing he is saying. It just shows how pathetic the fan base truly is and YTubers are only making things worse. Not to mention he can't even speak English fluently that alone shouldn't take anything he types seriously to the point people are.

This self-hatred I see on this issue is bizarre. Warcraft fans ask their writers about the story, Star Wars fans ask, every fandom I've been a part of does it. Only here is it treated like some grave crime we need to be shamed for.

[TheMikado]

NO! Instead of telling people to harass the poor guy, just friggin' wait and see what plays out! It is not that hard and what the whole point of watching a weekly show is for!

I get it the DB fandom outside Japan are not used to watching DB weekly but this getting more and more pathetic and ridiculous every week.

Next arc Toei should just put a spoilers list on their website detailed all the major events 'cuz that is clearly what some people want...

He used the wrong tense in the beginning; he's giving his assessment of the answer Toshio already gave.

Dude it's obvious there going to be a rematch with them and he said the same for goku new form so yeah it's going to happen

He didn't say the same for Goku's new form.

Regardless my point still stands, it's ridiculous to even bring it up and how people are now analysing every damn thing he is saying. It just shows how pathetic the fan base truly is and YTubers are only making things worse. Not to mention he can't even speak English fluently that alone shouldn't take anything he types seriously to the point people are.

Hasn't he done this before? I would think he would have learned his lesson last time? I would also think if he didn't want the attention he wouldn't post "spoilers". Reminds of the people defending you tubers when the publicly post things to the internet.

[Zamasu55]

I'm glad Vegeta isn't jobbing to the famale version of Majin Buu, but Toshio needs to stop with these spoilers.

[Dragonballgod19]

I'm glad Vegeta isn't jobbing to the famale version of Majin Buu, but Toshio needs to stop with these spoilers.

Agree

[Mercenary]

Piccolo is the most popular non saiyan as far as i know, 18 might be more popular than 17 but rarely anyone talks about her or cares no offense but the only time i see people caring about 18 is when they see a slutty fanart or cosplay she also gained a lot by marrying a main character who is Goku's best friend. 17 has the charisma, he didn't have as much screen time as the rest of the characters involved but i see a portion of people who consider him as their favorites, this was even before he came back.

From the Dragon Ball Forever Poll in in 2004:

Best Characters
1.Son Goku: 6,235 points
2.Vegeta: 2,527 points
3.Son Gohan: 2,131 points
4.Trunks: 1,487 points
5.Piccolo: 1,176 points
6.Son Goten: 798 points
7.Kuririn: 736 points
8.Majin Buu: 421 points
9.Freeza: 324 points
10.Android No.18: 204 points
11.Mister Satan: 201 points
12.Karin-sama: 185
13.Kame-sennin: 172 points
14.Cell: 170 points
15.Yamcha: 163 points
16.Tenshinhan: 125
17.Bulma: 112 points
18.Android No.17: 98 points
19.Yajirobe: 93 points
20.Videl: 86 points

An old poll, but it shows that 18 was in the top ten, while 17 was barely in the top 20 and barely beat Yajirobe. And since this is 2004, this is after GT with Super 17.

I'm surprised Goten is so high on this poll. I mean above Krillin and Freeza?

If this is the case Toei really dropped the ball not doing anything with Trunks/Goten in Super.

I bet Vegeta would gain much more points now.

[Lapislettuce]

17 might be a complete hit in japan. I've seen a lot of things with him on it, especially from dragon ball heroes. I'd expect 18 to at least be comparable, but I guess not. Piccolo has lost a ton of popularity or maybe he was never that popular in japan. Everything I'm saying is based of product I've seen though.

Piccolo is the most popular non saiyan as far as i know, 18 might be more popular than 17 but rarely anyone talks about her or cares no offense but the only time i see people caring about 18 is when they see a slutty fanart or cosplay she also gained a lot by marrying a main character who is Goku's best friend. 17 has the charisma, he didn't have as much screen time as the rest of the characters involved but i see a portion of people who consider him as their favorites, this was even before he came back.

From the Dragon Ball Forever Poll in in 2004:

Best Characters
1.Son Goku: 6,235 points
2.Vegeta: 2,527 points
3.Son Gohan: 2,131 points
4.Trunks: 1,487 points
5.Piccolo: 1,176 points
6.Son Goten: 798 points
7.Kuririn: 736 points
8.Majin Buu: 421 points
9.Freeza: 324 points
10.Android No.18: 204 points
11.Mister Satan: 201 points
12.Karin-sama: 185
13.Kame-sennin: 172 points
14.Cell: 170 points
15.Yamcha: 163 points
16.Tenshinhan: 125
17.Bulma: 112 points
18.Android No.17: 98 points
19.Yajirobe: 93 points
20.Videl: 86 points

An old poll, but it shows that 18 was in the top ten, while 17 was barely in the top 20 and barely beat Yajirobe. And since this is 2004, this is after GT with Super 17.

Super 17 arc kinda screw 17 over so yeah i wouldn't expect that arc to make him gain more popularity than the original dbz villains, hopefully with dbs 17 will gain more popularity and he already is, it's already impressive he was in this top 20 considering 16 had a larger role than him in android saga helping Gohan reach SSJ2 and all, he's in the middle of characters who have been a part of dragon ball from the start and have much more screen time than him.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

This self-hatred I see on this issue is bizarre. Warcraft fans ask their writers about the story, Star Wars fans ask, every fandom I've been a part of does it. Only here is it treated like some grave crime we need to be shamed for.

There is obviously a communication problem with him being Japanese and not so fluent in English and fans are taking advantage of this, it is completely different to those other examples you gave.

[MajinMan]

I've seen a lot of people ask Toshio a bunch of stupid power related questions on twitter. I'm sure it has been talked about a lot over here already, but those fans need to chill out with all the strength debate questions. They even type the questions out in a complicated manner as if Toshio understands or even cares about whatever they're saying. Asking him regular questions and complimenting him is fine, but some people take it too far with these asinine questions. Just my 2 cents on this topic.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I've seen a lot of people ask Toshio a bunch of stupid power related questions on twitter. I'm sure it has been talked about a lot over here already, but those fans need to chill out with all the strength debate questions. They even type the questions out in a complicated manner as if Toshio understands or even cares about whatever they're saying. Asking him regular questions and complimenting him is fine, but some people take it too far with these asinine questions. Just my 2 cents on this topic.

They also take his answers too literal. Its pretty obvious a lot of times hes just saying "Wait and see" and people run with his comments like they mean more.

[TheOne]

From the Dragon Ball Forever Poll in in 2004:

Best Characters
1.Son Goku: 6,235 points
2.Vegeta: 2,527 points
3.Son Gohan: 2,131 points
4.Trunks: 1,487 points
5.Piccolo: 1,176 points
6.Son Goten: 798 points
7.Kuririn: 736 points
8.Majin Buu: 421 points
9.Freeza: 324 points
10.Android No.18: 204 points
11.Mister Satan: 201 points
12.Karin-sama: 185
13.Kame-sennin: 172 points
14.Cell: 170 points
15.Yamcha: 163 points
16.Tenshinhan: 125
17.Bulma: 112 points
18.Android No.17: 98 points
19.Yajirobe: 93 points
20.Videl: 86 points

An old poll, but it shows that 18 was in the top ten, while 17 was barely in the top 20 and barely beat Yajirobe. And since this is 2004, this is after GT with Super 17.

I'm surprised Goten is so high on this poll. I mean above Krillin and Freeza?

If this is the case Toei really dropped the ball not doing anything with Trunks/Goten in Super.

I bet Vegeta would gain much more points now.

I don't think they dropped the ball at all on Goten and Trunks. Part of me feels they're taking the Boruto approach. Goten and Trunks are probably going to get more face time with Uub Pan and Bulla. Right now it feels like it's the story of their parents, and then down the road they switch roles. I don't think it's a bad approach.