Complete BT3 Info and Discussion Thread [UPDATED 10/02/07]

[Xyex]

I just noticed this...

09.- Goku Early (Or Teen Goku)

That is incorrect. Early Goku is NOT 23rd Budokai Goku. He is Saiyan Saga Goku. He's got King Kai's symbol as an outfit and Kaio Ken as a move. Thus he falls in as a Z character, not a DB character.

The same applies to Early Piccolo. He's Z Era Piccolo, the Special Beam Cannon is his ultimate, after all.

[Gaiash]

I just noticed this...

09.- Goku Early (Or Teen Goku)

That is incorrect. Early Goku is NOT 23rd Budokai Goku. He is Saiyan Saga Goku. He's got King Kai's symbol as an outfit and Kaio Ken as a move. Thus he falls in as a Z character, not a DB character.

The same applies to Early Piccolo. He's Z Era Piccolo, the Special Beam Cannon is his ultimate, after all.

Yes but Early Goku is the right era to be a suitable Goku to use in the 23rd Budokai story if they have one.

[Drunken Master]

WAR OF THE PACIFISTS!

Haha, yeah. Man, poor #8, I"m sure #16 had to hit him like 10 times to kill him. I'm an "Eighter" hater. So if I pick him on random, then I'll skip back and pick a damn pink saibaman to fight with.

Early Piccolo isn't Dragon Ball Piccolo either, right? I'm pretty sure they'd call him Piccolo Jr. or Ma Junior. I mean, Dragon Ball Piccolo has like 6 attacks he could use, and I saw none of them on Early Piccolo. E. Piccolo just seems to be Saiyan Saga as well. Why can't they just say "Saiyan Saga Goku", "Namek Saga Goku" and so on. People seem to be confused still about early, mid and what have you.


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Just saw Xyex post.

[Xyex]

I just noticed this...

09.- Goku Early (Or Teen Goku)

That is incorrect. Early Goku is NOT 23rd Budokai Goku. He is Saiyan Saga Goku. He's got King Kai's symbol as an outfit and Kaio Ken as a move. Thus he falls in as a Z character, not a DB character.

The same applies to Early Piccolo. He's Z Era Piccolo, the Special Beam Cannon is his ultimate, after all.

Yes but Early Goku is the right era to be a suitable Goku to use in the 23rd Budokai story if they have one.

The same could be said for base mid or late Goku. All that matters is that he's in his base form, nothing else. Which means there's no point in even having multiple Goku's for Z.... but I don't want to get into that stupidity again so.....

[NECPS]

Because I belive Goku from saiyajin and namek are both early Goku.

It is pretty bad when you can´t sign moves for your fighter,
it is restricting.

I still belive tekken 5 "acessories" would fit together with sign moves
would be the better way to create your fighter.

I thought they were incrising the slots to put more itens but without
techniques what better things we could apply.

[baragon_kun]

Anybody Has And Idea of What this its Mean



Remember When The Previously Weekly Jump told us About the Apparence of Kid Chichi, Somebody Has a Translation of This??

[Strongbad456]

It's cool that Android 8, Namu, and Akuman are confirmed but I want Kid Krillin already. Also I have to ask something. The Katakana for Akuman's name is bugging me. It translates out to be Ashikuman. Am I looking at that wrong?

[shannarafan]

And Kid Krillin? Seriously, WHY? That's got to be the most worthless character suggestion ever made, even when counting the joke suggestions like the farmer.

No offense, but coming from someone who's adamant on having 23rd TB Chichi, who barely fought? Also, if Seripa, who didn't do shit, can be included then I really don't see why Kid Krillin is a worthless suggestion.

And Drunken Master - how can you hate #8?! He's disgustingly likeable.

[TripleRach]

I can't read all of that blurb because of the size, but it's basically just hyping the hell out of the next V Jump. Definitely no particular mentions of any characters, though.

The Katakana for Akuman's name is bugging me. It translates out to be Ashikuman. Am I looking at that wrong?

Yes. That's a small tsu, not a shi, and it's pronounced as a glottal stop. It would be romanized as Akkuman, with the extra k representing the stop in this case. (Incidentally, Ackman of Toriyama's Go! Go! Ackman is also written as Akkuman in katakana.)

Also, it just occured to me that Namu's seiyuu passed away quite a while ago, so he'll probably be voiced by someone else in the game, like Kewi is. (Tenshinhan, on the other hand, will apparently just have recycled audio.)

[Xyex]

And Kid Krillin? Seriously, WHY? That's got to be the most worthless character suggestion ever made, even when counting the joke suggestions like the farmer.

No offense, but coming from someone who's adamant on having 23rd TB Chichi, who barely fought? Also, if Seripa, who didn't do shit, can be included then I really don't see why Kid Krillin is a worthless suggestion.

23rd Budokai Chi-Chi - Fought Goku in the 23rd Budokai, and then promptly married him. Then produced Gohan, the most important character in all of Z (cause face it, without him, they never would have gotten passed Raditz, let alone the Androids). Also, she's female, and the game is disgustingly short on females even considering how few are in the series in the first place. Plus there's a lot of options for moves and she completes the Son Family (well, with the exception of the Ox King, if you want to get into the extended family). Can be given an alternate skin and be re-used during the Garlic Jr. Saga.

Seripa - Powerful Saiya-jin warrior. Considering she was on Bardock's team she was likely among the strongest there were back then. Manged to wipe out all life on several planets, I'd hardly call that 'not doing shit'. Plus, she's unique. She's the only full blooded female Saiya-jin in the game. And she also helps fill the female characters roster.

Kid Krillin - Doesn't do jack in the series. Nearly loses to Bacterian cause of the smell when he can't even smell him, doesn't beat anyone in Dragonball until Chaotzu who he has to trick to beat. Has no moves of any kind. Dies before the King Piccolo saga even really begins. Would only appear once in story mode, as an opponent for Kid Goku in the 22nd Budokai.

[fps_anth]

Kid Krillin - Doesn't do jack in the series. Nearly loses to Bacterian cause of the smell when he can't even smell him, doesn't beat anyone in Dragonball until Chaotzu who he has to trick to beat. Has no moves of any kind. Dies before the King Piccolo saga even really begins. Would only appear once in story mode, as an opponent for Kid Goku in the 22nd Budokai.

Compared to Appule? Random Freeza henchman? King Vegeta?

Let's be honest, there's a very large percent of characters in this game that don't do jack in the series. If they have all these Dragon Ball characters in the game, why not put in Kid Kuririn?

Also, they could do the entire Dragon Ball series with the inclusion of some Red Ribbon arc characters. Where you at General Blue?

[Xyex]

Compared to Appule? Random Freeza henchman? King Vegeta?

Let's be honest, there's a very large percent of characters in this game that don't do jack in the series. If they have all these Dragon Ball characters in the game, why not put in Kid Kuririn?

The Freeza arc is, arguably, the most popular part of the entire series. Appule and the Freeza Soldier were bonus Wii characters likely only because they had models already and were thusly quick to make. And are only in BT3 because they were in BT2. King Vegeta's a rather important character. I mean, he is the last king the Saiya-jins ever had.

You say why not put in kid Krillin, I say why? I just don't see ANY need for him. At all. He gets 1 fight in the game as an enemy for Goku and that's it. They're not going to have you fighting EVERY match in the tournaments that ever happened. You'll be following Kid Goku through the DB arc, and thus fighting his matches.

[Anonymous Friend]

Well, the game is released in Japan in less than a month. So we get maybe two weeks or so for the developers to add whoever they're gonna add to the finished product. How do you feel about the current line-up of characters? From what I've seem here, it looks like the final wanted characters are Kid Kuririn, 23rd Tournament/Adult Chi-chi, and a couple of others straggling a bit behind.

But are there any gameplay elements that you are looking for?

[Drunken Master]

Whoa, whoa. Kid Krillin (First appearance-22nd Budokai) did more than just fight Goku. He fought Jackie Chun, Choutzu, and Kid Goku. Also, a fight could be made for him against Tambourine. Not to mention, if they're still on a Dragon Ball rush that it's possible for General Blue to get added, which of course means he'll get another fight. Chi-chi fought only Goku, and lost because she got beat by wind. Seripa could destroy whole galaxies, but if nothing is shown, what can they go off as for attacks and techniques? They just made stuff up for her. I'm sure she has a full power beam, ki ball, and/or volley or explosion wave. Default techniques. Kid Krillin has much more than that. Can't really remember much from way back then, but I do have the 22nd tournament manga. He was totally different when he was young, he was a tricky bastard.

@shannarafan
Haha, well. He's totally unoriginal looking, and well...looks like he shouldn't even be in Dragon Ball. I just...I HATE HIM! *head explodes*

[fps_anth]

King Vegeta's a rather important character. I mean, he is the last king the Saiya-jins ever had.

And Kid Kuririn is the kid version of Kuririn...Kuririn is pretty important as well, no? If there can be 5 versions of Vegeta and 5 versions of Goku, how about 2 for poor old Kuririn?

You say why not put in kid Krillin, I say why? I just don't see ANY need for him. At all. He gets 1 fight in the game as an enemy for Goku and that's it.

One more than Appule, King Vegeta etc. etc...

And I'm pretty sure he's more important then how you describe him I think it would just be logical to add him in. I mean, it's obvious that they are pumping DB and GT characters into this game. If they add Android 8, the android that doesn't even like to fight, why not add in Kid Kuririn?

Just my 2 cents.

[NECPS]

It is not a question of who beats who, if Kid Krillin wasn´t that important he wouldn´t made up till dragonball z.

He is one of those pals man, like Yamcha and Tenshin.
He fought lots of guys including Akuman.

Dragonball without Kid Krillin is like Dragonballz without.. say.. Kuririn!

[Demi]

To all the people saying Kid Krillin would be pointless to add, i've got one word to say:


























Babidi.

[Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece]

I would have been content with Bio-Broli or the rest of Koola's armored squad... or maybe some other henchmen or something...

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Rildo? Ledgic? Future Kid Trunks? Movie 9 Trunks (if that isn't in this game, it fails by default).

[Ex-Dubbie369]

Wow, I never expected any of these, I'm happy about Nam, but the other two I think are really unnecessary. No. 8 is unique, but he doesn't really fight or seem like he would. Sure, Tapion didn't fight, but at least it seemed like he could and would. And Akkuman, that just pisses me off, that's really insignificant and I would much rather Kid Kuririn be in it.

[The Justice]

I am glad that they are adding more DB characters as opposed to GT (as I really hate GT like most others) but like it has been said, I think they could have made better choices for DB characters. Though Nam should be fun.