Is the grand Priest the father of all 12 angels?

[IntangibleFancy]

I find it odd that he's just the father of two random universes but that seems like something they'd do at this point.


Have they confirmed or implied anything about this or not?

[Grimlock]

No. So far, he's the father of only Whis and Vados.

It seems there's a comment from Toyotaro that Daishinkan is also the father of some other angels, but its context doesn't contribute so we can't be sure if we should take into consideration a picture he drew out of his mere hobby and posted on a social media.

[GodVegetto91]

No. So far, he's the father of only Whis and Vados.

It seems there's a comment from Toyotaro that Daishinkan is also the father of some other angels, but its context doesn't contribute so we can't be sure if we should take into consideration a picture he drew out of his mere hobby and posted on a social media.

How can you say "NO" when it's not even confirmed he isn't!??

It's far more likely to believe he is, so YES. He is. Just recently Toei leaked information that says Vados, Marcarita, (U10 Angel, and U12 Angel), all 4 of them, are.... SISTERS! So there you have it! This heavily implies the idea that ALL 12 Angels are siblings.

In fact, I, personally, don't NEED confirmation for this!

[Grimlock]

How can you say "NO" when it's not even confirmed he isn't!??

Because it's not confirmed but it's all the information we have. Whis calls Daishinkan "father" and it was said him and Vados are siblings. Therefore, we just know there's a relationship among those three, nothing else.

Just recently Toei leaked information that says Vados, Marcarita, (U10 Angel, and U12 Angel), all 4 of them, are.... SISTERS!

Can you provide the source?

[GodVegetto91]

How can you say "NO" when it's not even confirmed he isn't!??

Because it's not confirmed but it's all the information we have. Whis calls Daishinkan "father" and it was said him and Vados are siblings. Therefore, we just know there's a relationship among those three, nothing else.

Just recently Toei leaked information that says Vados, Marcarita, (U10 Angel, and U12 Angel), all 4 of them, are.... SISTERS!

Can you provide the source?

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[Simere]

Just recently Toei leaked information that says Vados, Marcarita, (U10 Angel, and U12 Angel), all 4 of them, are.... SISTERS!

Can you provide the source?

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That's not leaked from Toei; it's the Toyotaro comment Grimlock was referring to.

[GodVegetto91]

Can you provide the source?

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That's not leaked from Toei; it's the Toyotaro comment Grimlock was referring to.

Doesn't matter, it's by someone or something official. That's all that matters concerning the point i'm trying to make in this case.

[Polyphase Avatron]

But who is their mother then?

Or maybe they don't have one, as Whis seemed to think Vegeta could give birth...

[aravinthan]

But who is their mother then?

Or maybe they don't have one, as Whis seemed to think Vegeta could give birth...

Now it makes sense

[Grimlock]

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I asked you to provide the "leaked information from Toei", thus proving I'm wrong. Not to provide Toyotaro's comment from a random social media with an image he drew out of his hobby I talked about earlier, thus proving I'm right.

Until:

• Whis says all the angels are his siblings at some point in the anime and/or manga.
• Daishinkan says all the angels are his children at some point in the anime and/or manga.
• An official interview or an official statement from Toriyama confirming a relationship among them all.
• An official interview or an official statement from Toyotaro confirming a relationship among them all.

We can only say Vados and Whis are his children, nobody else.

[GodKaio-Ken]

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I asked you to provide the "leaked information from Toei", thus proving I'm wrong. Not to provide Toyotaro's comment from a random social media with an image he drew out of his hobby I talked about earlier, thus proving I'm right.

Until:

• Whis says all the angels are his siblings at some point in the anime and/or manga.
• Daishinkan says all the angels are his children at some point in the anime and/or manga.
• An official interview or an official statement from Toriyama confirming a relationship among them all.
• An official interview or an official statement from Toyotaro confirming a relationship among them all.

We can only say Vados and Whis are his children, nobody else.

Youre acting like the person who said it is a random nobody. The guy literally writes the manga. Its at least comfirmed he is the father of the angels Toyotaro mentioned.

[MaskedRider]

So...do y'all look at twins and don't think they are from the same parents until told or...?

[Grimlock]

Its at least comfirmed he is the father of the angels Toyotaro mentioned.

No, it's not confirmed. As I also said earlier, it's all about the context. It's a commentary from a social media under an image he drew for no important reason, nor does the image is connected with his manga.

Or should we start taking into consideration all random things Toriyama probably comments about Goku in his home while having dinner with his family? I don't think that's how it works though. Until one of those situations I listed above is applied, no commentary from "outside" is meant to be taken seriously.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Its at least comfirmed he is the father of the angels Toyotaro mentioned.

No, it's not confirmed. As I also said earlier, it's all about the context. It's a commentary from a social media under an image he drew for no important reason, nor does the image is connected with his manga.

Or should we start taking into consideration all random things Toriyama probably comments about Goku in his home while having dinner with his family? I don't think that's how it works though. Until one of those situations is applied, no commentary from "outside" is meant to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry but I cant take the discussion any further if that is the way you feel. Agree to disagree but I dont think what youre saying is logical at all.

[Grimlock]

And "logical" would be considering his comment? Even though it's not said or even implied in the anime/manga or in any other official means? Yeah, that's really logical. Anyways, agree to disagree.

[Kanious]

Toyotaro made an post on his instagram, where he draw the four female angels, and he said that all of them are sisters. So by his statement we know that at least Whis, Vados and the other two angels (Margheritta, and the fat one, if i remember from the universe 1) are sons and daughters of Daishinkan.

[Smilodon]

Vados is Whis' sister...Told by him;
Daishinkan is Whis' father...Also told by him...

Toyotaro posted a picture of Vados, Martinu, Kusu and Marcarita...And he told that they are sisters...So Whis is their brother too.

We don't know Whis/Vados/Martinu/Kusu/Marcarita mother...They could reproduce alone (like Piccolo, but I doubt because we can see an angel male or female). So, we could see Daishinkan's wife soon. And all angels are probably brothers.

[GodKaio-Ken]

And "logical" would be considering his comment? Even though it's not said or even implied in the anime/manga or in any other official means? Yeah, that's really logical. Anyways, agree to disagree.

No disrespect, I dont mean youre an illogical person. I just mean to me, I cant see the logic, maybe its entirely logical to others. If it seemed like a shot at you personally I apologize.

I just dont get how someone who officially writes the story would put false information. Its not like he put that out before being involved.

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

Given how all the Angels are exactly alike, physiologically speaking, as well as how they're the only ones excluded from the erasure of their Universes, the logical implication is that they're all the Daishinkan's children.

One would be hard-pressed to find actual counter information, and not just the absence of absolute confirmation.

[Lord Beerus]

At this stage it's a matter of "when" and not "if" the reveal of the Grand Priest being the father of all the 12 angels happens.