Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by pacz360 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:10 pm
TheOne wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about seeing Dyspo being on par with Hit.
Before people start freaking out about it, the way they portrayed Dyspo during that one fight with the alien was a little... underwhelming. While yeah they commented on his speed, I can't picture Hit getting into a situation like that where he needs saving like Dyspo did. Toppo seemed like he was capable of taking that monster out on his own. And we all know that Toppo and Hit are in the same category of strength.
Just seems very odd to me. They could've done a better job of introducing Dyspo aside from him getting his butt kicked.
We don't know the full details all we is goku and hit are gonna face him and maybe the blue pride trooper?
Other than that we don't know
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by TheOne » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:11 pm
perucho1990 wrote:TheOne wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about seeing Dyspo being on par with Hit.
Before people start freaking out about it, the way they portrayed Dyspo during that one fight with the alien was a little... underwhelming. While yeah they commented on his speed, I can't picture Hit getting into a situation like that where he needs saving like Dyspo did. Toppo seemed like he was capable of taking that monster out on his own. And we all know that Toppo and Hit are in the same category of strength.
Just seems very odd to me. They could've done a better job of introducing Dyspo aside from him getting his butt kicked.
I think its because Dyspo speed abilities dont work on big targets like Aragne, while Toppo already proven to be a tank.
Take Coccote for example, her strength is on par with 18 yet she had an ability that helped her tank Caulifla+Kale combo attack.
Fair enough.
I just don't agree with the approach of him giving Hit trouble when he was able to be on par with SSB Goku. His speed at SSBKK was off the charts, but his time skip eventually caught up from improvement.
I guess we just have to wait and see what they do.
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by pacz360 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:12 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:perucho1990 wrote:
I think its because Dyspo speed abilities dont work on big targets like Aragne, while Toppo already proven to be a tank.
Shouldn't speed work better on bigger targets though?
Yeah what he's saying doesn't make sense
Maybe dyspo has abilities that can counter hit's timeskip
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by TheOne » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:12 pm
pacz360 wrote:TheOne wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about seeing Dyspo being on par with Hit.
Before people start freaking out about it, the way they portrayed Dyspo during that one fight with the alien was a little... underwhelming. While yeah they commented on his speed, I can't picture Hit getting into a situation like that where he needs saving like Dyspo did. Toppo seemed like he was capable of taking that monster out on his own. And we all know that Toppo and Hit are in the same category of strength.
Just seems very odd to me. They could've done a better job of introducing Dyspo aside from him getting his butt kicked.
We don't know the full details all we is goku and hit are gonna face him and maybe the blue pride trooper?
Other than that we don't know
I just stated this in the following comment. There's nothing wrong with making an observation of a summary so far. It's a whole different story when people start freaking out over something they haven't seen yet.
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by pacz360 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:15 pm
TheOne wrote:pacz360 wrote:TheOne wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about seeing Dyspo being on par with Hit.
Before people start freaking out about it, the way they portrayed Dyspo during that one fight with the alien was a little... underwhelming. While yeah they commented on his speed, I can't picture Hit getting into a situation like that where he needs saving like Dyspo did. Toppo seemed like he was capable of taking that monster out on his own. And we all know that Toppo and Hit are in the same category of strength.
Just seems very odd to me. They could've done a better job of introducing Dyspo aside from him getting his butt kicked.
We don't know the full details all we is goku and hit are gonna face him and maybe the blue pride trooper?
Other than that we don't know
I just stated this in the following comment. There's nothing wrong with making an observation of a summary so far. It's a whole different story when people start freaking out over something they haven't seen yet.
Toei an inconsistent beast you and i know that
Anyway i wonder will ribrianne put her fight on hold with vegeta due to 17 beating her friend
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by perucho1990 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:15 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:
Shouldn't speed work better on bigger targets though?
Only if they have the required amount of strength to dmg them.
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by Dragonballgod19 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:17 pm
TheOne wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote:Mercenary wrote:
So Vegeta probably got eliminated! I am glad. Honestly, never liked that jobber.
He's not even a jobber if you look at his win/lose if anything that's gohan and Freeza and lol she isn't mentioned either lol vegeta hater
Mercenary. The way you're posting makes people think your a youtuber who found his way to the forums. You need to chill out.
It's common knowledge that they don't put all the details of individuals in the summaries. Vegeta is a big fish. So if he got knocked out, they'd probably mention something. They're not very good at surprising people sometimes.
Pretty sure vegeta not getting knocked out why are people so obsessed with this
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by Ki Breaker » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:18 pm
pacz360 wrote:
Yeah what he's saying doesn't make sense
Maybe dyspo has abilities that can counter hit's timeskip
Counter time skip..
How does time skip even work?
Does it stop time for everyone or it literally skips it?
perucho1990 wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:
Shouldn't speed work better on bigger targets though?
Only if they have the required amount of strength to dmg them.
He still shouldn't be getting his butt kicked against that opponent..
unless his speed feats have limitations..
He doesn't seem too weak either..
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by Will » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:21 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:Roshi using Mafuba is never a good sign..
And him against a sexy opponent is even worse..
The spoiler don't talk about Mafuba though.
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by TheOne » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:22 pm
pacz360 wrote:TheOne wrote:pacz360 wrote:
We don't know the full details all we is goku and hit are gonna face him and maybe the blue pride trooper?
Other than that we don't know
I just stated this in the following comment. There's nothing wrong with making an observation of a summary so far. It's a whole different story when people start freaking out over something they haven't seen yet.
Toei an inconsistent beast you and i know that
Anyway i wonder will ribrianne put her fight on hold with vegeta due to 17 beating her friend
I'd probably do the same if one of my friends got beat. Just to try and make sure we make more members stay in the ring.
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by Ki Breaker » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:23 pm
Will wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:Roshi using Mafuba is never a good sign..
And him against a sexy opponent is even worse..
The spoiler don't talk about Mafuba though.
This is me saying the latter mentioned event is worse than a theoretical him using Mafuba, which kills him sometimes..
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by Chuquita » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:24 pm
Possible spoiler thoughts:
-Vegeta not being mentioned...maybe his battle with Ribrianne isn't even this weekend's episode. If she survives the 17 battle maybe she fights Vegeta later on in the arc?
-I'm gonna miss Gowasu. He's a nice old guy.
-Also poor Gohan; being the one to do it's gonna hang over his head for a while.
-Blah, Roshi episode. I hope it's less cringe-worthy than the tournament prep ep; that one was awful.
-Conversely, if Vegeta does go down in 103 and Roshi goes down in 105, maybe this lends credence to the ending animation's order of elimination?
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by pacz360 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:25 pm
Wheres episode 106 summary and title?
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by GodKaio-Ken » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:26 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:pacz360 wrote:
Yeah what he's saying doesn't make sense
Maybe dyspo has abilities that can counter hit's timeskip
Counter time skip..
How does time skip even work?
Does it stop time for everyone or it literally skips it?
perucho1990 wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:
Shouldn't speed work better on bigger targets though?
Only if they have the required amount of strength to dmg them.
He still shouldn't be getting his butt kicked against that opponent..
unless his speed feats have limitations..
He doesn't seem too weak either..
The best I can make of it - From the opponents perspective Time keeps flowing normally...except instead of Hit being two steps in front of you his fist is in your jaw.
From Hits point of view, it seems he stores time, pauses it and moves forward freely in it for whatever amount of time he can.
Someone may have some corrections to this.
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by Ki Breaker » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:28 pm
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
The best I can make of it - From the opponents perspective Time keeps flowing normally...except instead of Hit being two steps in front of you his fist is in your jaw.
From Hits point of view, it seems he stores time, pauses it and moves forward freely in it for whatever amount of time he can.
Someone may have some corrections to this.
Wouldn't stopping time for everyone but him have the same kind of effect?
The way they depict it, seems more like a time stop than a time skip..
A time skip I would imagine is the user deciding he wants to be at X position in 1 sec and he literally skips that second and appears there..
This would somewhat work like teleportation but faster
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by GodKaio-Ken » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:31 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:GodKaio-Ken wrote:
The best I can make of it - From the opponents perspective Time keeps flowing normally...except instead of Hit being two steps in front of you his fist is in your jaw.
From Hits point of view, it seems he stores time, pauses it and moves forward freely in it for whatever amount of time he can.
Someone may have some corrections to this.
Wouldn't stopping time for everyone but him have the same kind of effect?
Yeah basically. Its not really well explained to this point. We just know to keep with Goku he had to improve it to make it longer.
So I'm guessing if an opponent is significantly faster he cant skip time long enough for it to impact them.
My headcanon anyway
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by emperior » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:32 pm
I can't see Vegeta going out so soon without a great battle.
Maybe Dyspo will be the first character ever to be confirmed faster than light? He could give Hit some trouble if he can't catch him. Or maybe Dyspo has an ability which nullifies time-skip and so Toppo can also battle Hit?
As for Roshi, I hope he will ring out the sexy girl. Hopefully he will use Mafuba as the ending suggested.
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by Lionel » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:41 pm
I care little about Vegeta's ultimate fate in this tournament, but if one thing is almost certain, it's that he'll persevere until close to the end of the tournament. What's more probable is Ribrianne only being defeated, not eliminated; similar to Kale when Jiren briefly incapacitated her. His opponent must have retained a considerable amount of stamina and physical weariness for her to be engaging #17 so soon after having presumably lost to Vegeta. It's possible her anger could be clouding her judgement as the spoilers do state that her mood isn't the most positive.
My condolences to Universe 10 for having all of their efforts go to waste. They were one of the more interesting universes from an aesthetical and technical point of view for me. Gowasu left a surprising amount of emotional investment with us. Rumshhi endeared himself to me for the odd cuteness of his elephant appearance. On the other hand, it does allow for Gohan to finally be given some meaningful screen time after passively defending his group. Here's hoping they manage to at least eliminate one or several fights before the inevitable erasure.
The remainder of the spoilers seem to be involving a mutual pact between Goku and Hit. The Saiyan hasn't shown any particular interest in Hit throughout this arc. Unless he was manipulated somehow, Hit and Dyspo should be left to their individual fight. The spoilers' phraseology implies Roshi's battle be comical in nature. I wish we could receive an earnest bout that's more along the lines of his 22nd battle with Tenshinhan, but so long as the choreography is impressive along with the characterisation then I can't complain.
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by Terez » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:45 pm
pacz360 wrote:Wheres episode 106 summary and title?
It's not unusual for the last episode of the month to say "title undecided". In those cases we only get staff. That was the case for 102 last month, in
both Animage and Animedia. 101 only had a title, and 102 had neither title nor summary.
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by TysonWine » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:47 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:GodKaio-Ken wrote:
The best I can make of it - From the opponents perspective Time keeps flowing normally...except instead of Hit being two steps in front of you his fist is in your jaw.
From Hits point of view, it seems he stores time, pauses it and moves forward freely in it for whatever amount of time he can.
Someone may have some corrections to this.
Wouldn't stopping time for everyone but him have the same kind of effect?
The way they depict it, seems more like a time stop than a time skip..
A time skip I would imagine is the user deciding he wants to be at X position in 1 sec and he literally skips that second and appears there..
This would somewhat work like teleportation but faster
The way Time Skip is shown, it appears that he's stopping time, but when it's explained, that's not how it works. They probably should've depicted it in a different way, because when they show a frozen opponent surrounded by ice cubes, one would think that time has stopped. I think the work "Skip" says it all. It's like he's moving forward into the future, as opposed to stopping time.
The HUGE difference between Time Skip and Time Stop is that if he were to stop time, his opponent wouldn't be able to move at all. There'd be no counter to such a technique. This is why Time Stop may be the most broken technique in fiction. It's quite literally a Godlike ability. Because Time Skip doesn't stop time, it can be counted. Goku studied Hit's move, so he can predict Hit's next attack. Goku's thinking two steps ahead, while Hit's moving two steps ahead.