Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:46 am

Noah wrote:So it was really intentional the whole transformation sequence to be played twice in this episode? This is useful to save animation?
It was both. Magical Girl animes are infamous for reusing stock footage for when it come to transformations. And the episode was one big homage to everything good and bad about Magical Girl animes, so they killed two birds with one stone through reusing the amount of animation as they did. Play up to the parody of Magical Girl animes and give animators more time to work on future episodes.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:27 am

I really wonder how much Onishi corrected this episode and what exactly his corrections were.

Also Tsuji was fairly light this episode, wonder if that means she's going to dominate half of 104.
She still provided some really nice stuff this episode though.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Ajay » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:43 am

Upcoming supervisors:

103 - Yasuhiro Namatame & Naoki Tate
104 - Yui Kinoshita & Hiroyuki Itai
105 - Hirotaka Nii
106 - Masahiro Shimanuki

These are from Animage. The listing in Animedia (?) is all kinds of messed up. It listed Yoshiyuki Shikano, a background artist, as the supervisor. :lol: Just going to ignore that.

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Did the directors, too:

103 - Hideki Hiroshima
104 - Takao Iwai
105 - Masanori Sato
106 - Takahiro Imamura
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:45 am

Yasuhiro Namatame is another person from Tiger Mask.
And Karasawa seems to have vanished again :( Hopefully he's with Nii or Shimanuki and just not listed.
Also, is Kitano going to get 10 weeks again? If that happens it's going to be a real head scratcher.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Nasryyy » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:54 am

ArchedThunder wrote:Yasuhiro Namatame is another person from Tiger Mask.
And Karasawa seems to have vanished again :( Hopefully he's with Nii or Shimanuki and just not listed.
Also, is Kitano going to get 10 weeks again? If that happens it's going to be a real head scratcher.
I'd say kitano is working with Nii and karasawa with shimanuki ( i hope )

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:56 am

Nasryyy wrote: I'd say kitano is working with Nii and karasawa with shimanuki ( i hope )
It'd be nice, but we're going to be due for a Toei Phils episode...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:29 pm

We've got two new storyboarders as well, Mori Takeshi of Yu Yu Hakusho fame, and Nishijima Katsuhiko who has an... interesting history, if it's the same one I found.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Ajay » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:32 pm

Not strictly animation related, but I thought I'd clarify since I saw it brought up recently, and this bit of info was just brought to my attention on Twitter.

Despite Daisuki having the lead in Super encodes when the simulcasts began, CrunchyRoll upped their game at around episode 83, sporting a whopping near-8K bitrate compared to Daisuki's 5K. Crunchy used to encode at 3K, which is why I always recommended Daisuki if it was available to you.

So... yeah, stick to CrunchyRoll if you can!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Mazingerdestro » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:32 pm

Really liked the episode. The storyboard was magnificent and this is BY far the smartest and funniest episode of the tournament so far. The art was constantly good and the ending satisfying with some cool action.
The bank didn't feel unpleasant and I like how they actually wrote the plot around it. Shows how people can make something good while helping the series' production.
Since that Yashima episode, everything looks so good. We watch a weekly series and we constantly get exciting new plots and scenes.
Next week is Tate and the Botamo vs Gohan fight had some of the issues I really hate with his work (like how all his characters are so elastic. You can't expect people to accept these tricks without the screen been busy or the action fast). I sure hope his episode gets corrected and that he can give us something like Goku vs 17 (Gohan's counter fight looks like that).
Since storyboards got so great, I sure hope that the tournament continues to impress us. 17 already did more than enough and I guess that Rebrianne will beat him.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Noah » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:44 pm

Asura wrote:Because I'd be shocked if someone said there's another arc in Super that looks better than this one, I should assume it's obvious how much better it consistently looks than any other arc, although you never know with some people. But if you're talking about the entire franchise, like DB, DBZ, GT, and DBS? Noooo way. I agree with the others who said the Buu arc is absolute pinnacle of the franchise.
Well, I can agree that art wise the Boo arc is the best in the franchise, I love how characters don't look like plastic there, but Super had a lot of good looking episodes too and animation wise had better cuts.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:50 pm

Ajay wrote:Not strictly animation related, but I thought I'd clarify since I saw it brought up recently, and this bit of info was just brought to my attention on Twitter.

Despite Daisuki having the lead in Super encodes when the simulcasts began, CrunchyRoll upped their game at around episode 83, sporting a whopping near-8K bitrate compared to Daisuki's 5K. Crunchy used to encode at 3K, which is why I always recommended Daisuki if it was available to you.

So... yeah, stick to CrunchyRoll if you can!
Isn't CR premium for 1080p? Daisuki is still free and apparently ad free too (I haven't had a single ad from them in 3 months I only use the mobile app so perhaps it's a glitch on that?), I think I'll just still stick with them tbh.

What are FUNiNow's encodes like?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:01 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Isn't CR premium for 1080p? Daisuki is still free and apparently ad free too (I haven't had a single ad from them in 3 months I only use the mobile app so perhaps it's a glitch on that?), I think I'll just still stick with them tbh.

What are FUNiNow's encodes like?
You're not going to be able to stick with them, they're shutting down.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Ajay » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:03 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Isn't CR premium for 1080p? Daisuki is still free and apparently ad free too (I haven't had a single ad from them in 3 months I only use the mobile app so perhaps it's a glitch on that?), I think I'll just still stick with them tbh.

What are FUNiNow's encodes like?
Yeah, it is premium. I have a subscription anyway, so it's not a huge deal for me to switch over, but figured I'd let people know.

I have no idea about Funi's stuff, but I know it's hardsubbed, so I just stay well away.
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Dragon Ball Super is the only thing staying, weirdly. They said they'd announce something later down the line. I'm guessing it'll probably be some sort of official WatchDBSuper!! site.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:04 pm

Ajay wrote:
Dragon Ball Super is the only thing staying, weirdly. They said they'd announce something later down the line. I'm guessing it'll probably be some sort of official WatchDBSuper!! site.
That's... really weird. I guess they get enough traffic for Super, but not everything else.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:19 pm

-Episode 102-

If anyone told me Toriyama had wrote this episode, I would believe it.

That was a smart way to recycle animation. Not only works as a joke towards magical girls shows, but the characters are not hide it either.
Kinda reminds me of those Gintama episodes when the Yorozuya talk they run out of budget and they don't do nothing for the entire episode.
But here even though the beginning was slow, the action was solid in the second part and compensated for that.

All the decisions they have been doing during this have been the right ones. I'm impressed. This is how you manage your staff and do a battle royal between 80 fighters without the production go to flames. Keep it up!

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Welp, here goes my hope for having Karasawa in episode 104.
Maybe he will come back later. It's strange he coming back to do one episode and then go away again, but who knows what's happening behind the scenes.

I forgive him if he appears during Goku vs Jiren fight...

Still waiting for Ryo Onishi, Yuya Takahashi and Yamamuro to appear too. I'm confident Shida will appear so I'm not worried about him.

As expected, the Tournament will be long enough to Shimanuki supervise another episode and judging by how slow the time has been passing, everyone may supervise a second episode. That's cool. I'm glad they aren't rushing everything.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:25 pm

Asura wrote:So an episode does an absolutely horrible job with reused scenes and animation and no one is really criticizing it?
It's a joke. magical girl shows gratuitously reuse animation for transformation sequences.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:52 pm

Who are the storyboarders of the upcoming episodes ?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Ajay » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:01 pm

Dai-Saiyajin wrote:Who are the storyboarders of the upcoming episodes ?
Full staff:

103:
Script: Fukushima Yukinori
Storyboard: Mori Takeshi
Director: Horishima Hideki
Animation Supervisor: Namatame Yasuhiro, Tate Naoki

104:
Script: Yoshitaka Toshio
Storyboard: Nishijima Katsuhiko
Director: Iwai Takao
Animation Supervisor: Kinoshita Yui, Itai Hiroyuki

105:
Script: King Ryu
Storyboard/Director: Sato Masanori
Animation Supervisor: Nii Hirotaka

106:
Script: Yamaguchi Hiroe
Storyboard/Director: Imamura Takahiro
Animation Supervisor: Shimanuki Masahiro
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:04 pm

Ajay wrote:
Dai-Saiyajin wrote:Who are the storyboarders of the upcoming episodes ?
[spoiler]Full staff:

103:
Script: Fukushima Yukinori
Storyboard: Mori Takeshi
Director: Horishima Hideki
Animation Supervisor: Namatame Yasuhiro, Tate Naoki

104:
Script: Yoshitaka Toshio
Storyboard: Nishijima Katsuhiko
Director: Iwai Takao
Animation Supervisor: Kinoshita Yui, Itai Hiroyuki

105:
Script: King Ryu
Storyboard/Director: Sato Masanori
Animation Supervisor: Nii Hirotaka

106:
Script: Yamaguchi Hiroe
Storyboard/Director: Imamura Takahiro
Animation Supervisor: Shimanuki Masahiro[/spoiler]
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:16 pm

I did a quick search about Katsuhiko Nishijima, and it seems that he is know for panty-fanservice. :wtf:

Takeshi Mori worked on Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin and World Trigger.

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