"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Boo Machine]

Sometimes I think about the Nink situation and I'll think, "What if Nink was just THAT strong. Like Blue was necessary to shake him off?"

I mean, I don't actually think Nink is that strong, but it's funny to think about, because it could totally end up being true and it wouldn't contradict anything. Though it would be a massive waste of a strong character.

If nink was that strong, he would fight and not go the route of eliminating himself to take down another player..
Basic chiaotzu move buddy, can't beat em? Take them down with you

Ah, right you are. I didn't think about it like that.

I just liked the idea of this dude that laughs while being punched in the face by Goku being really strong.

[Hana Midorikawa]

It's sad that this has become a show more about merchandizing and toy/videogames sales than storytelling. It's the only reason Super Saiyan God is back.

Truthfully there never should have been any new Super Saiyan forms after 3 to begin with. They should have just had Goku raise his power in his Super Saiyan 2 form and that's it. Super Saiyan God was a mistake.

And sadly it will not change until merchandize and toy/video games sales start to go down. Bringing back SSJG because they already killed SSJB by having Kale withstand a kamehameha even if Goku wasnt going all out.

How exactly did it kill SSJB? Is Freezer and Hitto the only mortals in all 12 universes allowed to have latent power on par with or greater than SSJB?

[Low Tone G]

Episode 104 preview image.

Something's wrong the aura! It isn't the standard flame-like one... What could that mean?

[KuririnNoKotoKa]

Episode 104 preview image.

Something's wrong the aura! It isn't the standard flame-like one... What could that mean?

That it's an unfinished production shot.

[OLKv3]

The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them.

This screams Toyotaro

[Ki Breaker]

The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them.

This screams Toyotaro

Well yeah, it's pretty obvious with how character's personalities are on point, Vegeta is acting like him self again, now SSG is back etc..
Toyotaro sends them some information and we can have a pretty good guesses on what it is..
Though until official statements, no matter how close we are, it's still theories..

[Basako]

Episode 104 preview image.

Something's wrong the aura! It isn't the standard flame-like one... What could that mean?

That it's an unfinished production shot.

It's not unfinished, it's an stylistic change. Don't over think it, it's the same SSG.

The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them.

This screams Toyotaro

Well yeah, it's pretty obvious with how character's personalities are on point, Vegeta is acting like him self again, now SSG is back etc..
Toyotaro sends them some information and we can have a pretty good guesses on what it is..
Though until official statements, no matter how close we are, it's still theories..

Yeah, it looks more like Toyotaro since the new arc. Not only the SSG, also the SSB stamina problem was a thing in the manga, barely in the anime. I think they may be adapting the manga now, its what they should have done since the begining.

[Totamo]

They ruined Super Saiyan Blue post Future Trunks saga.

It was used far too many times in situations where it just absolutely was not needed at all. It was supposed to such a high level of power that it couldn't be comprehended, so high that Goku was too powerful for his body to keep up with it, so powerful a mere clash fists threatens the existence of the entire universe....

...then it was used to fight Krillin and Android 17.

Super saiyan blue did none of that. You are bullshitting.

[Totamo]

Goku using SSB against everyone and their mother but a weaker form against someone who gives trouble to Hit?

Bullshit it SSG is stronger now for reasons...

At what point are we just going to accept that Toei doesn't and has never cared about power scale.


I mean they made Yamcha on par with perfect cell and I don't care if that was filler Toei made that scene.

[Totamo]

The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them.

This screams Toyotaro

Well yeah, it's pretty obvious with how character's personalities are on point, Vegeta is acting like him self again, now SSG is back etc..
Toyotaro sends them some information and we can have a pretty good guesses on what it is..
Though until official statements, no matter how close we are, it's still theories..

Then why have people been saying he is in cell arc mode since the tournament?!

[Ki Breaker]

This screams Toyotaro

Well yeah, it's pretty obvious with how character's personalities are on point, Vegeta is acting like him self again, now SSG is back etc..
Toyotaro sends them some information and we can have a pretty good guesses on what it is..
Though until official statements, no matter how close we are, it's still theories..

Then why have people been saying he is in cell arc mode since the tournament?!

I don't see him going to Bergamo and letting him powerup to the fullest so he can satisfy his Saiyan pride beating him nor do I see him chasing hit around because hit beat him once..
He is more like his buu arc self than cell arc.. Has his pride intact but acts with logic as well..

[sintzu]

It's sad that this has become a show more about merchandizing and toy/videogames sales than storytelling. It's the only reason Super Saiyan God is back.

It wouldn't be so obvious if they just kept the form like the manga did.

I seem to recall him saying he didn't even think it should be called SSG or something like that.

He said he wasn't even going to give it a different design and just use Ssj1 for the whole fight but did so anyway. it could be why he had Goku use Ssj1 in the final fight of that movie instead of Ssjg as that was his plan for the whole fight but gave him red hair for part of it to show the massive power up.

[Totamo]

Well yeah, it's pretty obvious with how character's personalities are on point, Vegeta is acting like him self again, now SSG is back etc..
Toyotaro sends them some information and we can have a pretty good guesses on what it is..
Though until official statements, no matter how close we are, it's still theories..

Then why have people been saying he is in cell arc mode since the tournament?!

I don't see him going to Bergamo and letting him powerup to the fullest so he can satisfy his Saiyan pride beating him nor do I see him chasing hit around because hit beat him once..
He is more like his buu arc self than cell arc.. Has his pride intact but acts with logic as well..

Vegeta literally did both of those things.

[Ki Breaker]

Then why have people been saying he is in cell arc mode since the tournament?!

I don't see him going to Bergamo and letting him powerup to the fullest so he can satisfy his Saiyan pride beating him nor do I see him chasing hit around because hit beat him once..
He is more like his buu arc self than cell arc.. Has his pride intact but acts with logic as well..

Vegeta literally did both of those things.

He is chasing hit around or was he just ready to take hit down when hit himself was waking towards him?
And when did Vegeta go ahead and keep hitting Bergamo till he reaches his maximum so that he can show him no matter how powerful he gets he the Prince can beat him?

[sintzu]

Some people should hate this, they have been charging against Toyotaro and the manga for using SSG so loudly and for so long.

I like it in the manga but not here, simply because it was established in the manga from the start while here it's coming out of nowhere.

Ok when the Cell saga has 4 forms alone, you can't say this shit.

Z was also about merchandise.

it was why Tori was forced to keep going.

The 2 muscle forms are just Ssj1 with big muscles like what Roshi did and 2 (at the time) was just Gohan's full power, there wasn't even a difference between it and Ssj1. All 3 forms weren't even called new during that arc, they were just powered up Ssj1s. Ssj3 is the only true new form apart from 1.

No it wasn't, it was about selling the manga.

After all these years and all the info out there, there are still people who bring up this lie.

[Yomi]

Something's wrong the aura! It isn't the standard flame-like one... What could that mean?

That it's an unfinished production shot.

It's not unfinished, it's an stylistic change. Don't over think it, it's the same SSG.

I doubt a god aura in this show is just one flat color. He's probably right.

[sintzu]

The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them.

This screams Toyotaro

That or the anime's staff are noticing how successful the manga is that they want the anime to be closer to it.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Goku using SSB against everyone and their mother but a weaker form against someone who gives trouble to Hit?

Bullshit it SSG is stronger now for reasons...

His over-use of the form has really de-valued it. I wouldn't be surprised if they did make SSG stronger(though it would be retarded). This series has demonstrated Goku's sense of occasion by literally having him use it when it would have been just as effective to go SS or any other SS form beyond that.

SSGSS will still be stronger, I don't why it is even being brought up. SSG isn't even in the OP and all the marketing for Goku vs Jiren as been SSGSS Goku.
Goku has access to the SSSGS form so why not use it? Why hide it? Did the original SS become de-valued in the Cell Saga when Goku literally used it as base?

The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them.

This screams Toyotaro

That or the anime's staff are noticing how successful the manga is that they want the anime to be closer to it.

The anime is still miles more successful what are you on about?

[mahakaishin1991]

For the anime my expectations are simple don't think too deep and am I enjoying myself? If you think too deep with DB (especially from Z onward) you will pick up on so many problems. For the Manga I wasn't enjoying it and have stopped reading, especially with the anime miles ahead the interest isn't there as-well.


Yup, Goku said Vegeta "did it without the help of other Saiyans; he did it by himself".[/b]

Back the HFIL up, when? I've watched the film I dont know how many times and dont recall that being said anywhere. Vegeta just powered up and totally smacked the hell out of frieza before the latter blows the planet up.

Goku mentioned it when he met up with Vegeta on Beerus' planet after Whis agreed to train him. Goku was impressed because Vegeta had gotten so strong on his own. Goku was unhappy with the power in the BoG arc because he didn't get it through his own efforts. I've always felt like they had Vegeta do it the hard way to say 'well, Goku COULD have gotten that strong by training' as a way of clearing that up.

And if I recall, before Vegeta gets to train with Whis, Goku tells him it's his turn to do the ritual and Vegeta actually refuses because SSG wasn't strong enough to beat Beerus. I think that was around episode 15 or 16?

Ok so that's a line in super. When it was said the Dub of Revival Of F I thought we were talking the movie, where I cant find that line at all

[sintzu]

The anime is still miles more successful what are you on about?

Maybe they're thinking they can make th anime even more so by bringing in elements from the manga.