"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by perucho1990 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:11 pm

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I don't know if I should report you for trolling or not, considering you always write stuff like that. Don't try to turn around things by saying "it was over when ..." just because I said that. What you say makes no sense. I am using a set standard for the rating of a writer's quality. Your entire posts are written like they are a natural law, a universal fact that is under all circumstances true. And you have no way to back it up other than bringing in more claims of that nature. So as said, you acting like that ended it, not me. You cannot seriously think stating your opinion as a fact instead of actually just posting something based on standards leads to a normal discussion.
You could share with us why you think GT never had good writing for example

One thing is GT never had good writing and another thing is GT was never that bad as a show.(Most people here go for the latter).
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Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:12 pm

precita wrote:So why is GT still listed on the official timeline if it isn't canon? By that logic all the movies should be listed there too.
Because they absolutely have to acknowledge something like GT or risk angering thousands of fans.

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Post by Shounen » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:13 pm

RedHeat wrote:Here you go

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Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:13 pm

precita wrote:So why is GT still listed on the official timeline if it isn't canon? By that logic all the movies should be listed there too.
Probably because it's a major part of the series and the place that this timeline is posted up is a celebration of Dragon Ball. It doesn't mean that GT and Super exist in the same continuity.

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Post by precita » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:14 pm

But it doesn't make sense. In GT there is no mention of Super Saiyan God. Super Saiyan 4 doesn't make sense when God exists.

Supreme Kai and Kibito are still fused. There is no Beerus/Whis. No mention of other universes. There's no way it can fit into the current timeline at all.

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Post by Cetra » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:15 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
Cetra wrote:
You could share with us why you think GT never had good writing for example

One thing is GT never had good writing and another thing is GT was never that bad as a show.
For what exactly? If you actually are interested, then I will write you a full-fledged Private Message about that, even if it takes me a few hours. If you just insist to write more comments of the nature "lulz no", then there is no meaning in doing so. But seeing how your next sentence was an even bolder claim I doubt you are actually interested in that and just bring in more factually composed claims for the sake of provoking people. So, your decision. Serious conversation or not.
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Post by Kishido » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:15 pm

Shounen wrote:
RedHeat wrote:Here you go

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God damn it... I hope they would simply tell it side story or something...

Now some people will still believe it can fit in even within Super

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Post by perucho1990 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:16 pm

About Aya Matsui, I just checked her profile and I was wrong about her, but I guess GT was one of her stinkers as also usually happens to other popular writers and mangakas.

Currently writing in Pokemon Sun and Moon, and their ratings have increased compared to the previous Season.

As for Toyotaro goes, I'm kinda looking forward how he will handle the ToP, any chances he goes right to the tournament or will we get some recruitments?

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Post by precita » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:17 pm

perucho1990 wrote: Currently writing in Pokemon Sun and Moon, and their ratings have increased compared to the previous Season.
No it hasn't, Pokemon XY and Sun/Moon both regularly got ratings in the 3.0's. It's exactly the same, the difference is Pokemon always gets a slight boost in ratings when new games come out because new kids get into pokemon for the first time, but then it always declines.

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Post by Cetra » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:17 pm

Does not look totally like a koro to me but it would definitely make sense. Maybe its just the font.
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:17 pm

Kishido wrote:God damn it... I hope they would simply tell it side story or something...

Now some people will still believe it can fit in even within Super
People still believed that before the timeline so it doesn't really make much of a difference, does it?

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Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:18 pm

precita wrote:But it doesn't make sense. In GT there is no mention of Super Saiyan God. Super Saiyan 4 doesn't make sense when God exists.

Supreme Kai and Kibito are still fused. There is no Beerus/Whis. No mention of other universes. There's no way it can fit into the current timeline at all.
Again, them including this here at a store/event that is a celebration of Dragon Ball does not mean GT and Super exist in the same continuity, it's just an acknowledgement that GT is a show that existed and is a part of the franchise.

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Post by perucho1990 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:21 pm

precita wrote:
No it hasn't, Pokemon XY and Sun/Moon both regularly got ratings in the 3.0's. It's exactly the same, the difference is Pokemon always gets a slight boost in ratings when new games come out because new kids get into pokemon for the first time, but then it always declines.
I meant to say Pokemon is reaching the Top 10 ranking more compared to the previous Season, and everyone were expecting it to bomb because of the horrible ending XY got(It was as controversial as the Trunks vs Merged Zamasu fight).

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Post by precita » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:23 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
precita wrote:
No it hasn't, Pokemon XY and Sun/Moon both regularly got ratings in the 3.0's. It's exactly the same, the difference is Pokemon always gets a slight boost in ratings when new games come out because new kids get into pokemon for the first time, but then it always declines.
I meant to say Pokemon is reaching the Top 10 ranking more compared to the previous Season, and everyone were expecting it to bomb because of the horrible ending XY got(It was as controversial as the Trunks vs Merged Zamasu fight).
That's only because Yokai Watch was really popular in Japan for a while, and it was overtaking Pokemon as the new popular kids anime.

However Yokai Watch completely imploded on itself and lost most of it's popularity in the last year or two, and Pokemon gets better ratings than it.

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Post by Grimlock » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:26 pm

Shounen wrote:頃 - around.
That's new. Neither Xenoverse nor Perfect Files stated that, both outright state that it is indeed AGE 789 without any implications of rounding. Wonder why's that. :think:

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:27 pm

precita wrote:But it doesn't make sense. In GT there is no mention of Super Saiyan God. Super Saiyan 4 doesn't make sense when God exists.

Supreme Kai and Kibito are still fused. There is no Beerus/Whis. No mention of other universes. There's no way it can fit into the current timeline at all.
Since when does Toei care about consistency? They have to acknowledge GT or they lose money, it's as simple as that.

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Post by precita » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:30 pm

They can acknowledge GT the same way they acknowledge Heroes or the Movies, it doesn't mean they have to acknowledge it as part of the main timeline.

How is this any different than Toei advertising Coola, Broly, Android 13, Janemba, etc. or any of the movie villains?

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:32 pm

precita wrote:They can acknowledge GT the same way they acknowledge Heroes or the Movies, it doesn't mean they have to acknowledge it as part of the main timeline.

How is this any different than Toei advertising Coola, Broly, Android 13, Janemba, etc. or any of the movie villains?
Those are stand-alone and always have been. GT has always been marketed as a sequel to Z and they'll hold on to it until Toriyama himself comes along and writes a story in the same time period. I'm not sure why you're struggling to see the difference.

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Post by Cetra » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:34 pm

precita wrote:They can acknowledge GT the same way they acknowledge Heroes or the Movies, it doesn't mean they have to acknowledge it as part of the main timeline.

How is this any different than Toei advertising Coola, Broly, Android 13, Janemba, etc. or any of the movie villains?
What exactly is your problem with that now? They acknowledge it. You still do not need to watch it if you dislike it. I did not watch GT for like 6 years because it was not what I expected.
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Post by Jigurashi » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:46 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:All I know is this Goku vs Jiren fight has been hyped to all hell, yet a part of me is telling me to not fall for it and still reserve expectations, but how can I they have been hyping this fight up for 7+ months...!!! If they pull it off it I will clap my feet!
With how the pacing of this tournament is going, you won't see that fight or even Freeza do some serious shit until late September at the earliest.

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