"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[perucho1990]

I swear to God if Dyspo's getting eliminated next week I'm gonna be fuming. STOP WASTING CHARACTERS, Toei, please.

Kunsi is definitely gone in the next episode, idk about Dyspo, he might be forced to retreat. We have seen fighters retreat when they felt overwhelmed(Ganos, Jimizu with the kamikaze Fireballs).

[dbzfan7]

Didn't they get separated when Kale went Super Saiyan Berseker mode?

I think so, but there's no reason to not stick together. They just separate for no reason afterwards. Magetta and Botamo stop teaming up....because...

Maybe they couldn't find each other in time.

I'm not arguing for a plot hole or bad inconsistency. I'm saying it just is a big disappointment and lame how the move went nowhere essentially.

[Lord Beerus]

I think so, but there's no reason to not stick together. They just separate for no reason afterwards. Magetta and Botamo stop teaming up....because...

Maybe they couldn't find each other in time.

I'm not arguing for a plot hole or bad inconsistency. I'm saying it just is a big disappointment and lame how the move went nowhere essentially.

Eh. It run its course. They worked well together, then got separated and Botamo got eliminated. Not really much to get out of their combination.

[MagmonKai]

Considering that only Beerus and U7 has seen the SSG form, do you think we'll get a reaction from the Gods/Angels when he goe's SSG?

Why would they right now since they saw ssb already,a form that's superior to ssg

How would they know which one is superior?

[Hakaishin Liquir]

It's a weird situation Hit is in. I'm certain there is much more to how Dyspo speed power works. In the NEP, we see him fighting both SSJG Goku and Hit and he has the both of them on the ropes. The next episode is going to be super interesting.

Its ether Dyspo is so fast he can strike before the Time-Skip takes effect or like a super-speedster, he's perception of time his different to others.

I think he's basically The Flash. The strength of his attacks don't come from his raw power in itself. It comes from the fact he can move so fast he amply the strength of the his attacks by many multitudes. I'm sure Dyspo can punch hard, but with his super speed, that punch becomes like 100 or 1000 times more powerful.

I wonder where Dyspo's insane speed was when Narirama pushed him aside like he was nothing. Dyspo is clearly the 3rd strongest Pride Trooper, but Toei was done a very bad job at hyping him up. First he needed help against Aragney, then he was matched up against base Cabba in the TOP's first episode, and then in that same episode he got knocked aside by Narirama, who got jobbed by Hit. It's like the people who made Dyspo's intro episode and episode 96 never got the memo that Dyspo is supposed to be close to SSB level (I don't think he will be stronger than Hit. The only reason he will be winning against Hit is because he's got a good counter to Tokitobashi).

[dbzfan7]

Maybe they couldn't find each other in time.

I'm not arguing for a plot hole or bad inconsistency. I'm saying it just is a big disappointment and lame how the move went nowhere essentially.

Eh. It run its course. They worked well together, then got separated and Botamo got eliminated. Not really much to get out of their combination.

We never got a good strategy to beat it, and even Vegeta and trouble....and then suddenly stopped giving a crap about them. I find it an unsatisfying conclusion personally.

[TheOne]

Its inconsistent, I ain't saying its not, but if HIt wasn't as overpowered as he was, this would have made more sense.

I guess my gripe is with the people who think Toei can do no wrong when weird stuff like this happens.

We blame toei for a lot of shit, we blame toriyama for a lot of shit, we blame toyotaro for a lot of shit. None of these T's are without merit nor flaw as creators.


But in my opinion, no matter how bad we get mad at them, the one piece fans will always beat us in who can get more angrier with Toei.

Haha I'm a huge One Piece fan. What were they complaining about? Pacing??

[Lord Frieza]

ahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

I just realized Goku's going SSG against a guy that looks like Beerus haha. Wonder how weird that will be for Beerus?

[Hakaishin Liquir]

ahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

I just realized Goku's going SSG against a guy that looks like Beerus haha. Wonder how weird that will be for Beerus?

The only reason why they brought SSG back is because they wanted to create an homage to Beerus vs Goku by making SSG Goku fight another purple cat creature.

[perucho1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1zC5kk ... tu.be&t=3m

The whole ATATATATATATATA was also a thing in DBZ, for those who are having issues with Goku yelling that.

[Draconic]

ahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

I just realized Goku's going SSG against a guy that looks like Beerus haha. Wonder how weird that will be for Beerus?

Especially if Goku kicks his ass lol

[Totamo]

I guess my gripe is with the people who think Toei can do no wrong when weird stuff like this happens.

We blame toei for a lot of shit, we blame toriyama for a lot of shit, we blame toyotaro for a lot of shit. None of these T's are without merit nor flaw as creators.


But in my opinion, no matter how bad we get mad at them, the one piece fans will always beat us in who can get more angrier with Toei.

Haha I'm a huge One Piece fan. What were they complaining about? Pacing??

Reused animation. Wasting a good chunk of it on previews and opening scenes.


Basically poor usage of time.

[Freeza9000]

SSJG Goku vs Beerus 2.0 again next episode.

[fadeddreams5]

Episode 103 was terrible. It's one of those cases of events unfolding that, on paper, should be exciting, but the execution making everything horrendously anti-climactic and hollow.

-Having two different characters using that scatter shot technique seemed lazy. Both cases were rip-offs of Piccolo's original battle with Android 17, only with little emotion attached. You can call this a homage, but Super has been doing stuff like this so much, I'm convinced the creators have no imagination and are just reusing scenes from the superior show to compensate.

-So Gohan is over there punching Botamo for like a minute. Goku appears and is like "I'm sure Gohan has a strategy against Botamo." As you would expect from the guy who was hired as captain and has come up with other grand masterful plans in this tournament (e.g. hiding, and making a friend circle), Gohan does not disappoint: he punches Botamo EVEN HARDER. lol. Botamo just stood there taking it cause even he was dazzled that someone could concoct such a brilliant strategy. Seriously, these writers are terrible.

-Did anyone notice Gohan going ultimate? I know, I nearly missed it too. He might as well have burped to power up. It was the equivalent of Tien or Krillin powering up. No dramatic music, earthquakes, or even a change of pace. The battle just repeated the same afterimage, punch punch nonsense, only Gohan could endure a punch in the gut now. Goodness, they should NOT have revealed his ultimate form in that recruitment episode. The scene there should have been reserved for the tournament in a sequence where he is getting his ass beat, and he should have subsequently single-handedly taken out 5 Universe 10 guys on his own. That would have been much cooler.

-So Universe 10 just perished. You know, the only other universe we knew about prior to this tournament. Why was there hardly any emotion in this scene? Throwing in a little locket, reminding us of the obvious, didn't add to the fact that this was all so garsh darn hollow. Gohan was staring at it like, "Damn. That sucks...oh well, let's go Mr. Piccolo." Gohan's battle against Tournament Contestant #34 was a good opportunity to create a connection with said character that could have made all of this so much more impacting. In any other anime, this would have been the cue for Talk No Jutsu to be used against Zeno, or at least yell "Noooo!!!".

On a side note, they dropped the ball by not having Goku Black part of Universe 10. We already hit fan service category; one more wouldn't have hurt.

[Lord Beerus]

Its ether Dyspo is so fast he can strike before the Time-Skip takes effect or like a super-speedster, he's perception of time his different to others.

I think he's basically The Flash. The strength of his attacks don't come from his raw power in itself. It comes from the fact he can move so fast he amply the strength of the his attacks by many multitudes. I'm sure Dyspo can punch hard, but with his super speed, that punch becomes like 100 or 1000 times more powerful.

I wonder where Dyspo's insane speed was when Narirama pushed him aside like he was nothing. Dyspo is clearly the 3rd strongest Pride Trooper, but Toei was done a very bad job at hyping him up. First he needed help against Aragney, then he was matched up against base Cabba in the TOP's first episode, and then in that same episode he got knocked aside by Narirama, who got jobbed by Hit. It's like the people who made Dyspo's intro episode and episode 96 never got the memo that Dyspo is supposed to be close to SSB level (I don't think he will be stronger than Hit. The only reason he will be winning against Hit is because he's got a good counter to Tokitobashi).

Maybe he's one of those character who can use his speed blitz power for a certain amount of time and he didn't blow his load early on. I agree though they could have done a much better job of building him up. I guess they wanted to keep his true abilities a secret until the tournament. But that in itself is a double edged sword. But it can create a certain mystique about a character, but if he/she has to fight before the major event/battle, their limited to what kind of abilities they can perform to give a taste of what they can do, and as a result, can leave a unimpressive initial impression.

[perucho1990]

Episode 103 was terrible. It's one of those cases of events unfolding that, on paper, should be exciting, but the execution making everything horrendously anti-climactic and hollow.

-Having two different characters using that scatter shot technique seemed lazy. Both cases were rip-offs of Piccolo's original battle with Android 17, only with little emotion attached. You can call this a homage, but Super has been doing stuff like this so much, I'm convinced the creators have no imagination and are just reusing scenes from the superior show to compensate.

-So Gohan is over there punching Botamo for like a minute. Goku appears and is like "I'm sure Gohan has a strategy against Botamo." As you would expect from the guy who was hired as captain and has come up with other grand masterful plans in this tournament (e.g. hiding, and making a friend circle), Gohan does not disappoint: he punches Botamo EVEN HARDER. lol. Botamo just stood there taking it cause even he was dazzled that someone could concoct such a brilliant strategy. Seriously, these writers are terrible.

-Did anyone notice Gohan going ultimate? I know, I nearly missed it too. He might as well have burped to power up. It was the equivalent of Tien or Krillin powering up. No dramatic music, earthquakes, or even a change of pace. The battle just repeated the same afterimage, punch punch nonsense, only Gohan could endure a punch in the gut now. Goodness, they should NOT have revealed his ultimate form in that recruitment episode. The scene there should have been reserved for the tournament in a sequence where he is getting his ass beat, and he should have subsequently single-handedly taken out 5 Universe 10 guys on his own. That would have been much cooler.

-So Universe 10 just perished. You know, the only other universe we knew about prior to this tournament. Why was there hardly any emotion in this scene? Throwing in a little locket, reminding us of the obvious, didn't add to the fact that this was all so garsh darn hollow. Gohan was staring at it like, "Damn. That sucks...oh well, let's go Mr. Piccolo." Gohan's battle against Tournament Contestant #34 was a good opportunity to create a connection with said character that could have made all of this so much more impacting. In any other anime, this would have been the cue for Talk No Jutsu to be used against Zeno, or at least yell "Noooo!!!".

On a side note, they dropped the ball by not having Goku Black part of Universe 10. We already hit fan service category; one more wouldn't have hurt.

Thats why its better when Toyotaro takes over the franchise, with the knowledge he is acquiring by reading Hero Academia(best Shounen series today), he will help the DB franchise in a big way.

U10 defeat kinda reminded me of what happened to Usain Bolt today

The moment someone uses TNJ, the series will be compared to Naruto lol

[Totamo]

Episode 103 was terrible. It's one of those cases of events unfolding that, on paper, should be exciting, but the execution making everything horrendously anti-climactic and hollow.

-Having two different characters using that scatter shot technique seemed lazy. Both cases were rip-offs of Piccolo's original battle with Android 17, only with little emotion attached. You can call this a homage, but Super has been doing stuff like this so much, I'm convinced the creators have no imagination and are just reusing scenes from the superior show to compensate.

-So Gohan is over there punching Botamo for like a minute. Goku appears and is like "I'm sure Gohan has a strategy against Botamo." As you would expect from the guy who was hired as captain and has come up with other grand masterful plans in this tournament (e.g. hiding, and making a friend circle), Gohan does not disappoint: he punches Botamo EVEN HARDER. lol. Botamo just stood there taking it cause even he was dazzled that someone could concoct such a brilliant strategy. Seriously, these writers are terrible.

-Did anyone notice Gohan going ultimate? I know, I nearly missed it too. He might as well have burped to power up. It was the equivalent of Tien or Krillin powering up. No dramatic music, earthquakes, or even a change of pace. The battle just repeated the same afterimage, punch punch nonsense, only Gohan could endure a punch in the gut now. Goodness, they should NOT have revealed his ultimate form in that recruitment episode. The scene there should have been reserved for the tournament in a sequence where he is getting his ass beat, and he should have subsequently single-handedly taken out 5 Universe 10 guys on his own. That would have been much cooler.

-So Universe 10 just perished. You know, the only other universe we knew about prior to this tournament. Why was there hardly any emotion in this scene? Throwing in a little locket, reminding us of the obvious, didn't add to the fact that this was all so garsh darn hollow. Gohan was staring at it like, "Damn. That sucks...oh well, let's go Mr. Piccolo." Gohan's battle against Tournament Contestant #34 was a good opportunity to create a connection with said character that could have made all of this so much more impacting. In any other anime, this would have been the cue for Talk No Jutsu to be used against Zeno, or at least yell "Noooo!!!".

On a side note, they dropped the ball by not having Goku Black part of Universe 10. We already hit fan service category; one more wouldn't have hurt.

Hey, I felt plenty of emotion in this scene, different strokes, different folks as we have all learned.

[Legion]

I'm happy to see that the angels are not evil or heartless. But i hate Zeno so much...

[Totamo]

Episode 103 was terrible. It's one of those cases of events unfolding that, on paper, should be exciting, but the execution making everything horrendously anti-climactic and hollow.

-Having two different characters using that scatter shot technique seemed lazy. Both cases were rip-offs of Piccolo's original battle with Android 17, only with little emotion attached. You can call this a homage, but Super has been doing stuff like this so much, I'm convinced the creators have no imagination and are just reusing scenes from the superior show to compensate.

-So Gohan is over there punching Botamo for like a minute. Goku appears and is like "I'm sure Gohan has a strategy against Botamo." As you would expect from the guy who was hired as captain and has come up with other grand masterful plans in this tournament (e.g. hiding, and making a friend circle), Gohan does not disappoint: he punches Botamo EVEN HARDER. lol. Botamo just stood there taking it cause even he was dazzled that someone could concoct such a brilliant strategy. Seriously, these writers are terrible.

-Did anyone notice Gohan going ultimate? I know, I nearly missed it too. He might as well have burped to power up. It was the equivalent of Tien or Krillin powering up. No dramatic music, earthquakes, or even a change of pace. The battle just repeated the same afterimage, punch punch nonsense, only Gohan could endure a punch in the gut now. Goodness, they should NOT have revealed his ultimate form in that recruitment episode. The scene there should have been reserved for the tournament in a sequence where he is getting his ass beat, and he should have subsequently single-handedly taken out 5 Universe 10 guys on his own. That would have been much cooler.

-So Universe 10 just perished. You know, the only other universe we knew about prior to this tournament. Why was there hardly any emotion in this scene? Throwing in a little locket, reminding us of the obvious, didn't add to the fact that this was all so garsh darn hollow. Gohan was staring at it like, "Damn. That sucks...oh well, let's go Mr. Piccolo." Gohan's battle against Tournament Contestant #34 was a good opportunity to create a connection with said character that could have made all of this so much more impacting. In any other anime, this would have been the cue for Talk No Jutsu to be used against Zeno, or at least yell "Noooo!!!".

On a side note, they dropped the ball by not having Goku Black part of Universe 10. We already hit fan service category; one more wouldn't have hurt.

Thats why its better when Toyotaro takes over the franchise, with the knowledge he is acquiring by reading Hero Academia(best Shounen series today), he will help the DB franchise in a big way.

U10 defeat kinda reminded me of what happened to Usain Bolt today

The moment someone uses TNJ, the series will be compared to Naruto lol

He will turn it into homage porn and has shown not one ounce of good storytelling that didn't revolve around something from the past series.

[TheOne]

I swear to God if Dyspo's getting eliminated next week I'm gonna be fuming. STOP WASTING CHARACTERS, Toei, please.

Kunsi is definitely gone in the next episode, idk about Dyspo, he might be forced to retreat. We have seen fighters retreat when they felt overwhelmed(Ganos, Jimizu with the kamikaze Fireballs).

How is Dyspo being wasted when he's fighting one of the strongest fighters in the tournament? You don't even know the guy and you're all over the dude.