"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[namekiansaiyan]

The new saiyans are well, saiyans. Saiyans are a staple of this franchise, namekians less so. Some believe that there might be a good reason why the U6 namekians have been overlooked by the "camera" up until now, but I don't know. For what it's worth, people are showing interest in them, they're just being cautious with their expectations ( I am too.)

I am of two minds. On one hand, they could be important since they were hidden for no real reason, suggesting hype, but at the same time we had no clue they even existed until we saw their faces on Zen'o's GodPad. They're not even in the end credits, which have fodder that got KO in one episode.

I just think why would Toriyama make 2 Namekians if they are not going to play a decent role. It is also much easier for Toei to hide them becuase we have seen none from Universe 6 before.

Toei were being very crafty in revealing them on the tablet and knew it would create some hype. Some people didn't even notice them in episode 102 and only in episode 103.

The next credits scene will probably involve all the big players in it and we probably won't even see the Namekians for a while in the tournament.

They will probably also reveal the other 2 from Universe 4 soon to create hype as well.

I just hope the Namekians do have a possible power up for Piccolo and they are saving his to last as it will obviously be the best one.

[Jaden]

Question: Is there any official source that says Super starts in Age 778? If so, could you attach a link or an image'?

[HeroR]

I just think why would Toriyama make 2 Namekians if they are not going to play a decent role. It is also much easier for Toei to hide them becuase we have seen none from Universe 6 before.

Toei were being very crafty in revealing them on the tablet and knew it would create some hype. Some people didn't even notice them in episode 102 and only in episode 103.

The next credits scene will probably involve all the big players in it and we probably won't even see the Namekians for a while in the tournament.

They will probably also reveal the other 2 from Universe 4 soon to create hype as well.

I just hope the Namekians do have a possible power up for Piccolo and they are saving his to last as it will obviously be the best one.

You can make that argument for most fighters in this tournament. And yes, they're so underplayed that they don't really exist. They're like most of the U10 fighters.

[GodKaio-Ken]

So as many know I'm NOT a fan of Gohan. However I did like this last episode. They kept Gohan at a really believable level of power and skill, fight was well enough choreographed, the locket wasnt as cheese as I thought it would be either.

[namekiansaiyan]

I just think why would Toriyama make 2 Namekians if they are not going to play a decent role. It is also much easier for Toei to hide them becuase we have seen none from Universe 6 before.

Toei were being very crafty in revealing them on the tablet and knew it would create some hype. Some people didn't even notice them in episode 102 and only in episode 103.

The next credits scene will probably involve all the big players in it and we probably won't even see the Namekians for a while in the tournament.

They will probably also reveal the other 2 from Universe 4 soon to create hype as well.

I just hope the Namekians do have a possible power up for Piccolo and they are saving his to last as it will obviously be the best one.

You can make that argument for most fighters in this tournament. And yes, they're so underplayed that they don't really exist. They're like most of the U10 fighters.

Universe 10 was shown while the Namekians have been deliberately hidden just like the 2 from Universe 4.

Why would the equivalent of Frieza, Broly, Goku and Vegeta in Universe 6 be useful but not the Piccolo and Lord Slug equivalents.

[Simere]

If you think Cabba is useful then maybe your expectations are low enough to be met.

[GodKaio-Ken]

If you think Cabba is useful then maybe your expectations are low enough to be met.

He did wreck 2 guys with 0 effort. It was more than most have done as sad as that may be.

[namekiansaiyan]

If you think Cabba is useful then maybe your expectations are low enough to be met.

I mean he is not considered useless by some fans and will not get one-shotted whereas too many people are coming to the conclusion from no information at all that the Namekians are going to be completely useless.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So as many know I'm NOT a fan of Gohan. However I did like this last episode. They kept Gohan at a really believable level of power and skill, fight was well enough choreographed, the locket wasnt as cheese as I thought it would be either.

I agree the locket scene was handled well, it wasn't hammy and Gohan's facial expression was all that was needed.

[Ki Breaker]

So as many know I'm NOT a fan of Gohan.

Why?
Are you simply not a fan or do you dislike the character?

[GodKaio-Ken]

So as many know I'm NOT a fan of Gohan.

Why?
Are you simply not a fan or do you dislike the character?

I dont hate him, I just never took to the character and some of his traits bother me. Really its partly due to writing and not him so much is what I've been realizing lately. I mainly just dislike how with 0 effort he can catch up and surpass everyone. Also how he always talks about protecting others but never tries to become stronger to do so.

Like I said though I'm starting to think its just his writing sometimes because I enjoyed him this episode.

[Ki Breaker]

I mainly just dislike how with 0 effort he can catch up and surpass everyone.

This applies to a lot more people now

Also how he always talks about protecting others but never tries to become stronger to do so.

I can debate this but I get what you are saying, sometimes even I am like choose already man

[Michsi]

I am of two minds. On one hand, they could be important since they were hidden for no real reason, suggesting hype, but at the same time we had no clue they even existed until we saw their faces on Zen'o's GodPad. They're not even in the end credits, which have fodder that got KO in one episode.

That's why I am being cautious. I mean Toei's intention could be along the lines of "BAM! Surprise! Namekians!" or "Yeah, ok, here, have some namekians too I guess...we needed ten members."

I mean, there's a warthog guy there too, isn't there. He also gets no mention and I doubt it's because he is the dark horse of U6.

Toei were being very crafty in revealing them on the tablet and knew it would create some hype. Some people didn't even notice them in episode 102 and only in episode 103.

I seriously hope that's the case, but we'll have to see.

Why would the equivalent of Frieza, Broly, Goku and Vegeta in Universe 6 be useful but not the Piccolo and Lord Slug equivalents.

Again, saiyans edge out namekians in terms of importance, and Freeza, well, is Freeza. I'd argue that the greatest hype surrounds him atm, maybe even more so than Goku's new power.

Believe me, I'm with you as far as hopes go, but realistically speaking, given past treatment, I'd keep expectations modest. A decent enough fight that doesn't involve Gohan is all I'm asking for Piccolo at this point.

[hardcorefakes]

If you think Cabba is useful then maybe your expectations are low enough to be met.

He literally knocked out two fighters in his base form without trying.

How is that anything but useful....?

[Vegeta-Sama]

Vegeta and Frieza needs more screentime in the ToP.

[namekiansaiyan]

I am of two minds. On one hand, they could be important since they were hidden for no real reason, suggesting hype, but at the same time we had no clue they even existed until we saw their faces on Zen'o's GodPad. They're not even in the end credits, which have fodder that got KO in one episode.

That's why I am being cautious. I mean Toei's intention could be along the lines of "BAM! Surprise! Namekians!" or "Yeah, ok, here, have some namekians too I guess...we needed ten members."

Toei were being very crafty in revealing them on the tablet and knew it would create some hype. Some people didn't even notice them in episode 102 and only in episode 103.

I seriously hope that's the case, but we'll have to see.

Why would the equivalent of Frieza, Broly, Goku and Vegeta in Universe 6 be useful but not the Piccolo and Lord Slug equivalents.

Again, saiyans edge out namekians in terms of importance, and Freeza, well, is Freeza. I'd argue that the greatest hype surrounds him atm, maybe even more so than Goku's new power.

Believe me, I'm with you as far as hopes go, but realistically speaking, given past treatment, I'd keep expectations modest. A decent enough fight that doesn't involve Gohan is all I'm asking for Piccolo at this point.

Universe 6 are not going to have some random characters and Toei can't just mess around with Toriyama's story for this arc. They wouldn't draw a Piccolo look a like unless Toriyama wanted to due to it possibly messing things up.
Universe 6 Namekians will probably be different to Universe 7 Namekians so any previous perception of Namekians can probably be ignored.

The longer we don't see them fight the more dangerous they will probably end up being.

Piccolo and Gohan will have a seperate fights and episode 103 is already a seperate fight as Piccolo and Gohan did not intervene in each others fights. Toei are probably making Gohan and Piccolo walk around together but will obviously seperate when Toriyama's script says they are suppose to fight on their own.

Vegeta and Frieza needs more screentime in the ToP.

Characters that don't do much now will probably do a lot more later.

[TheOne]

All Whis said that somewhere in the multiverse there was a mortal that a God of Destruction couldn't beat. He also said this after he admitted not knowing much about the other universes. So this mortal may or may not be part of the tournament, although I have some doubts that they are since Beerus knows the god who beat him in arm wrestling and thinks Goku can beat everyone at the tournament if he stops dropping his guard. I think Beerus would be more worried if the god who beat him in arm wrestling was in the tournament since the mortal that a God of Destruction can't destroy would be there and Goku isn't as strong as a God of Destruction.

That doesn't answer my question, though. Did Whis say that before or after knowing four Universes were exempt?

He said it after I believe. This was at the end of the 40 hour recruiting period when he said it. They found out about the exempt universes at the exhibition match.

[JazzMazz]

All Whis said that somewhere in the multiverse there was a mortal that a God of Destruction couldn't beat. He also said this after he admitted not knowing much about the other universes. So this mortal may or may not be part of the tournament, although I have some doubts that they are since Beerus knows the god who beat him in arm wrestling and thinks Goku can beat everyone at the tournament if he stops dropping his guard. I think Beerus would be more worried if the god who beat him in arm wrestling was in the tournament since the mortal that a God of Destruction can't destroy would be there and Goku isn't as strong as a God of Destruction.

That doesn't answer my question, though. Did Whis say that before or after knowing four Universes were exempt?

He said it after I believe. This was at the end of the 40 hour recruiting period when he said it. They found out about the exempt universes at the exhibition match.

Just to confirm, Whis said that line when Goku asked if they could easily win the tournament to justify recruiting Freeza. In context, Whis says he doesn't know much about the competitors of the universes that they were up against, but he does know that there was a mortal that couldn't be defeated by his God of destruction.

In other words it's Jiren.

[GodKaio-Ken]

That doesn't answer my question, though. Did Whis say that before or after knowing four Universes were exempt?

He said it after I believe. This was at the end of the 40 hour recruiting period when he said it. They found out about the exempt universes at the exhibition match.

Just to confirm, Whis said that line when Goku asked if they could easily win the tournament to justify recruiting Freeza. In context, Whis says he doesn't know much about the competitors of the universes that they were up against, but he does know that there was a mortal that couldn't be defeated by his God of destruction.

In other words it's Jiren.

It may be but it doesnt mean that. He could also just mean he knows of one universe out there, competing or not, so nothing can be certain.

[JazzMazz]

He said it after I believe. This was at the end of the 40 hour recruiting period when he said it. They found out about the exempt universes at the exhibition match.

Just to confirm, Whis said that line when Goku asked if they could easily win the tournament to justify recruiting Freeza. In context, Whis says he doesn't know much about the competitors of the universes that they were up against, but he does know that there was a mortal that couldn't be defeated by his God of destruction.

In other words it's Jiren.

It may be but it doesnt mean that. He could also just mean he knows of one universe out there, competing or not, so nothing can be certain.

Whis was directly referring to the universes they were going to be up against. In context, he was saying that someone from one of the competing universes is stronger than their God of Destruction. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out who it is from there.