"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[superfan2024]

Is Vegeta a SSJ, a SSJG, or a SSJB in those panels?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

going by those pics, is Goku going to Zeno the last page of this chapter? Looks like Toyo ain't rushing with this.

Yes and of course he isn't rushing the Manga has become it's own little thing now, no more concerned with catching the anime up.

[emperior]

Props to Toyotaro for giving Gohan his purple gi. And it seems like he isn't taking things very slowly.

[Birusu16]

Berrus effortlessly slams Vegeta down, and SSB vegetto is still supposed to be stonger than him.. how.. Fusion boosts but that much?

Vegetto is never confirmed to be stronger than him. Shin suggests the possibility, but he's not remotely trustworthy, particularly because it's never stated or implied that he knows the full extent of Beerus' strength. Then we have Toyotaro saying maybe he's stronger or maybe he isn't. It's completely ambiguous, so I don't know why people keep suggesting it's outright fact.

Because it's an official comparison, and all your argument does is use headcanon to denounce it
The fact is, in 2 official sources, Vegetto's power is stated to be very comparable to Beerus'
And then you have the anime putting both Merged Zamasu and Vegetto in the tier of unfathomable power

Which does nothing to prove me wrong. I said I don't know people keep suggesting Vegetto is stronger as if it's outright fact when all we have are ambiguous statements suggesting their power is comparable at best.

Nothing definitively says he's stronger.

[OLKv3]

Is Vegeta a SSJ, a SSJG, or a SSJB in those panels?

He's SSB
He's also not using any aura, so he's probably using Completed SSB

[MisteryOne]

Great cover. I seriously hope that Gohan has the purple outfit in the actual chapters.

Glad that Toyotaro is not rushing as well. Kinda curious about Vegeta training with Whis and Beerus, I wonder if Bra has already been born?

[Xeztin]

Hopefully this chapter we get the rest of RoF in Freeza's memories or something.

[Legion]

[superfan2024]

YUP THAT'S DEFINATELY A MASTERED SSJB VEGETA!!!!!

[Lord Beerus]

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So Vegeta mastered SSJB as well? Awesome. Nice to know he can still keep up with Goku.

[OLKv3]

It's in the manga too

[Lord Beerus]

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It's in the manga too

So will the complaints about Goku getting hurt by a bullet being bullshit added in by Toei now come to an end?

[Birusu16]

So Vegeta's mastered SSJB as well and still got demolished by Beerus. I'm beginning to think Goku and Vegeta won't ever catch up to this guy. It's like he becomes more and more powerful with every power-up Goku and Vegeta get.

[LowRyder2005]

SSB Vegito is at least comparable to Beerus, MSSB Goku can match Merged Zamas and MSSB can't do anything to Beerus. Looks like we can reasonably conclude Manga Beerus is much, much stronger than Manga Merged Zamas, at least.

[superfan2024]

And Goku vs the robbers are also part of the manga. Cool.

[perucho1990]

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It's in the manga too

So will the complaints about Goku getting hurt by a bullet being bullshit added in by Toei now come to an end?

Yep.

Confirmed now Goku being hurt by a bullet to be part of Toriyamas outline.

Does anyone think that Jiren will end up being stronger than Merged Zamasu?

[LowRyder2005]

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It's in the manga too

So will the complaints about Goku getting hurt by a bullet being bullshit added in by Toei now come to an end?

Yep.

Confirmed now Goku being hurt by a bullet to be part of Toriyamas outline.

Does anyone think that Jiren will end up being stronger than Merged Zamasu?

Given what we know I believe it looks highly probable, at least at this point.

* If the manga keeps the "stronger than Hakaishin" mortal tidbit and that mortal is Jiren, he already is.
* If mastered SSB Goku can't beat Jiren and needs a new and supposedly more powerful form, Jiren will almost certainly be stronger.

Toyotaro tackles the concept of energy consumption and different properties for each transformation fairly often, however. I wouldn't be surprised if there were other factors that made the new form needed to go toe to toe with Jiren (if, again, this is the intended route).

So will the complaints about Goku getting hurt by a bullet being bullshit added in by Toei now come to an end?

Since I've always thought it had more to do with Goku failing to control his ki properly than anything, it's never been a biggie to me. I think that at most the idea of Toyotaro using it will somewhat legitimize it, though, instead of having it dismissed as something from Toei's stock of no-brainers.

[Zamasu55]

SSB Vegito is at least comparable to Beerus, MSSB Goku can match Merged Zamas and MSSB can't do anything to Beerus. Looks like we can reasonably conclude Manga Beerus is much, much stronger than Manga Merged Zamas, at least.

That's right.

[OLKv3]

SSB Vegito is at least comparable to Beerus, MSSB Goku can match Merged Zamas and MSSB can't do anything to Beerus. Looks like we can reasonably conclude Manga Beerus is much, much stronger than Manga Merged Zamas, at least.

That's right.

I mean, that was obvious when Vegetto completely stomped Zamasu

[emperior]

What was even the problem with Goku getting scratched by a bullet in the first place? I also always felt like it was Toriyama's idea, considering Goku getting scratched is what sets him to go to Beerus' planet for more training.