(NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

[Draconic]

I love the form. I will be quite sad if it's just a tease and not the final design, but to be honest, if the hairstyle is kept the same, I wouldn't mind the hair actually turning silver too. I would much rather keep it like this, though. It looks perfect.

[MrBlackFox]

How? Toyo's control Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan has no aura since Goku sucks it all in. This form has an aura. It also doesn't really look like Fake Super Saiyan outside the red aura. It looks more like what Ultimate Goku would look like mixed with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan highlights in the hair and aura, with the flame aura of Super Saiyan God.

I'm just guessing that red and blue aura will eventually dissapear like in the opening. That's why I said "Toyotaro's idea". And I compared with the Pseudo SSJ because of the hair and the muscles. I don't know too much about fan fictions but I googled Ultimate Goku and it does ressembles that form.

Based on the tagline "Now the work of the gods ends" or something like that, I think he will achieve the same ki that God of Destructions has. I don't know how or why. Anyway, I don't like where this is going. I do like the eyes though.

What if it's ssj4 about to finally go canon? I could cry for joy

And you made that assumption based on......?

Nothing but dreams lol

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I love the form. I will be quite sad if it's just a tease and not the final design, but to be honest, if the hairstyle is kept the same, I wouldn't mind the hair actually turning silver too. I would much rather keep it like this, though. It looks perfect.

I wouldn't mind the same hair but silver that would look quite good. But I think the hair will change it even if a bit, looks too difficult for animators to constantly draw, still seems mid transformation to me.
Or perhaps the hair will be completely animated? Like constantly moving on it's own changing shapes etc? That would be quite cool too.

I'm not getting too comfortable/excited just yet till we get 100% confirmation.

[SansrivaaL]

I hope the BGM while transforming would be "desperate assault" I loved it when they used that BGM on Goku's namek SSJ transformation on the RF special, really made the atmosphere more intense.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I hope the BGM while transforming would be "desperate assault" I loved it when they used that BGM on Goku's namek SSJ transformation on the RF special, really made the atmosphere more intense.

Hope it's something new tbh. A good track don't get me wrong but for a new transformation something new would be more ideal especially since Sumitomo is finally showing so much good stuff.

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

We've also been getting potential hints in other areas as to what this new form could be.

As early as RoF, Whis tells the Oracle Fish that he thinks Goku and Vegeta realize that training their natural states will give them the greatest gains. We also have Ultimate Gohan flatly telling Goku that he doesn't want to get stronger like his dad, using transformations like SS. Then we have Elder Kai offering to unlock all of Goku's potential. Following that, we have Goku in his base form attempting to do something besides simply survive inside of Sidra's Energy of Destruction, as Beerus attests to when he asks what Goku's doing.

All in all, I think this is ample evidence to make an educated guess that this new form could potentially follow along the lines of something akin to Gohan's Ultimate state.

[emperior]

We've also been getting potential hints in other areas as to what this new form could be.

As early as RoF, Whis tells the Oracle Fish that he thinks Goku and Vegeta realize that training their natural states will give them the greatest gains. We also have Ultimate Gohan flatly telling Goku that he doesn't want to get stronger like his dad, using transformations like SS. Then we have Elder Kai offering to unlock all of Goku's potential. Following that, we have Goku in his base form attempting to do something besides simply survive inside of Sidra's Energy of Destruction, as Beerus attests to when he asks what Goku's doing.

All in all, I think this is ample evidence to make an educated guess that this new form could potentially follow along the lines of something akin to Gohan's Ultimate state.

I hope it is. It might be ultimate state mixed with God Ki, which would be much more powerful than Blue. That would explain the silver eyes and blue aura. Though if that's what it is it should be compatible with Kaioken, and I feel like it won't.

[supersaiyan1993]

i really dont like the fact there is new form, but at the same time I'm super excited. to be honest the new form looks great. the fact that its NOT a recolour of the other super saiyan forms is huge plus.
i cant wait to see it debut in the anime and manga. I'm just hoping that they dont ruin it in the anime (like they did with blue).

[Kastex]

i really dont like the fact there is new form, but at the same time I'm super excited. to be honest the new form looks great. the fact that its NOT a recolour of the other super saiyan forms is huge plus.
i cant wait to see it debut in the anime and manga. I'm just hoping that they dont ruin it in the anime (like they did with blue).

what? i thought the new form wasn't revealed yet (if it was revealed as a spoiler, don't show me). i know how you feel about having mixed feelings about new transformations, but it's not so bad. it actually makes sense for there to be a new form.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

We've also been getting potential hints in other areas as to what this new form could be.

As early as RoF, Whis tells the Oracle Fish that he thinks Goku and Vegeta realize that training their natural states will give them the greatest gains. We also have Ultimate Gohan flatly telling Goku that he doesn't want to get stronger like his dad, using transformations like SS. Then we have Elder Kai offering to unlock all of Goku's potential. Following that, we have Goku in his base form attempting to do something besides simply survive inside of Sidra's Energy of Destruction, as Beerus attests to when he asks what Goku's doing.

All in all, I think this is ample evidence to make an educated guess that this new form could potentially follow along the lines of something akin to Gohan's Ultimate state.

I don't think it's "ample evidence" at all. They're all flimsy at best. It will be nothing related to "Ultimate". Eyes are completely new and unique, Goku hair is completely different to his base and the aura and colours teased so far suggest nothing like "Ultimate". It's been teased as Gods perfected technique that's all we have to go on in terms of descriptions.

[emperior]

i really dont like the fact there is new form, but at the same time I'm super excited. to be honest the new form looks great. the fact that its NOT a recolour of the other super saiyan forms is huge plus.
i cant wait to see it debut in the anime and manga. I'm just hoping that they dont ruin it in the anime (like they did with blue).

what? i thought the new form wasn't revealed yet (if it was revealed as a spoiler, don't show me). i know how you feel about having mixed feelings about new transformations, but it's not so bad. it actually makes sense for there to be a new form.

The new form has been revealed. If you absolutely don't want to see it, I suggest you avoid the animation catalogue and the official announcements thread. You should also go on your user control panel and turn off avatars as some people here are already sporting the new form as their avatar.

[RichardKing2]

Seen it w/o intention. Unfortunately that tool Geekdom101 posted the video on youtube with the blatant thumbnail spoiler. And with youtube, if you watch DB related videos, then popular DB videos(esp from DB youtubers) will show up in your recommended section, even if you're not subscribed to them. If you do watch, he also has the nerve to try to hide it with a notepad even though it's redundant since the form is spoiled in the thumbnail anyway! Probably originally intended to not spoil it, but then figured that 400k+ views matters more than integrity. Guess it was unavoidable, just a shame I can't go on youtube without seeing thumbnails from his shitty videos. Not apologizing for saying this either

New form looks...interesting. But i'll keep a neutral point of view. I don't want to hype up this form too much right now, and I don't' really have much to say about it's design so far. I'll see how it's implemented once we see it in the show. Hope it is a huge boost, and that it atleast puts him to where he can atleast compete with Beerus.

[Kastex]

i really dont like the fact there is new form, but at the same time I'm super excited. to be honest the new form looks great. the fact that its NOT a recolour of the other super saiyan forms is huge plus.
i cant wait to see it debut in the anime and manga. I'm just hoping that they dont ruin it in the anime (like they did with blue).

what? i thought the new form wasn't revealed yet (if it was revealed as a spoiler, don't show me). i know how you feel about having mixed feelings about new transformations, but it's not so bad. it actually makes sense for there to be a new form.

The new form has been revealed. If you absolutely don't want to see it, I suggest you avoid the animation catalogue and the official announcements thread. You should also go on your user control panel and turn off avatars as some people here are already sporting the new form as their avatar.

well when you put it that way i guess it's not too much of a spoiler anymore. it would have been good if they kept it a secret until the reveal episode, but whatever.

[MagmonKai]

Quite honestly, I hope this new teaser image is just that. The new form is not that great in my opinion. In fact I think it's lame. Ok so his eyes are silver now with cat pupils? Just because I'm not impressed with this "new form" don't mean I liked SSB either. I still think that's boring as hell. It's just none of the new forms in Super have been all that creative. I'm in the camp that loves SSJ4, but color me unimpressed if this is the new form. I can just see them in the round table now:

"What can we do that's not a simple color swap?"
"Oh, how about we change his eyes?"
"That's a brilliant idea!"
DBS fandom..."OH shit this is the best thing that ever happen! We love it!"

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Seen it w/o intention. Unfortunately that tool Geekdom101 posted the video on youtube with the blatant thumbnail spoiler. And with youtube, if you watch DB related videos, then popular DB videos(esp from DB youtubers) will show up in your recommended section, even if you're not subscribed to them. If you do watch, he also has the nerve to try to hide it with a notepad even though it's redundant since the form is spoiled in the thumbnail anyway! Probably originally intended to not spoil it, but then figured that 400k+ views matters more than integrity. Guess it was unavoidable, just a shame I can't go on youtube without seeing thumbnails from his shitty videos. Not apologizing for saying this either

New form looks...interesting. But i'll keep a neutral point of view. I don't want to hype up this form too much right now, and I don't' really have much to say about it's design so far. I'll see how it's implemented once we see it in the show. Hope it is a huge boost, and that it atleast puts him to where he can atleast compete with Beerus.

Unless you are completely dark on DB things like this are unavoidable, and yes YTers are hilarious like that, they give the spoilers away in the title ot thumbnail yet start the video with a warning... Tbh I dunno why they don't mystery out the thumbnail for this it protects the spoiler and will probably get them more views, a win win. I don't disagree with your opinion of his videos I stopped watching him a while ago. He just rushes a lot his episode "reviews" uploaded based of the raw broadcast before the simulcast even goes up, like the simulcast only goes up an hour later is that hard to wait? And most of his videos aren't quality anyway, just still images with him rambling, his NEP breakdowns were my favourite of his and he was actually doing something and actually discussing things that were right there.

Anyway a Dragon Ball blackout could be pretty easy to do if you put your mind to it, twitter has made things a lot easier, no pictures on TL, no video autoplay, mute words etc, then just avoid YT, googling and only come here to discus episodes as they air and you should be good.

Quite honestly, I hope this new teaser image is just that. The new form is not that great in my opinion. In fact I think it's lame. Ok so his eyes are silver now with cat pupils? Just because I'm not impressed with this "new form" don't mean I liked SSB either. I still think that's boring as hell. It's just none of the new forms in Super have been all that creative. I'm in the camp that loves SSJ4, but color me unimpressed if this is the new form. I can just see them in the round table now:

"What can we do that's not a simple color swap?"
"Oh, how about we change his eyes?"
"That's a brilliant idea!"
DBS fandom..."OH shit this is the best thing that ever happen! We love it!"

a) There is so much more going on then the eyes, the aura, the hair, the colours teased with the form.
b) This isn't even final confirmation for now it's just another tease.

[Kastex]

Quite honestly, I hope this new teaser image is just that. The new form is not that great in my opinion. In fact I think it's lame. Ok so his eyes are silver now with cat pupils? Just because I'm not impressed with this "new form" don't mean I liked SSB either. I still think that's boring as hell. It's just none of the new forms in Super have been all that creative. I'm in the camp that loves SSJ4, but color me unimpressed if this is the new form. I can just see them in the round table now:

"What can we do that's not a simple color swap?"
"Oh, how about we change his eyes?"
"That's a brilliant idea!"
DBS fandom..."OH shit this is the best thing that ever happen! We love it!"

i don't think the design is as important as a lot of people make it out to be. the only reason ss4's design could be so different is because it was a design based on the ape form as well. this new transformation seems to be more centered around goku's original design. it's not like they can make him turn into some demon frog zombie.

[Ki Breaker]

it's not like they can make him turn into some demon frog zombie.

DO. NOT. GIVE. THEM. IDEAS.
We already have a SSNeko at our hands, let's not start warming up to animal transformations now..

[SansrivaaL]

They cant exactly make another furry transformation or make the hair go wilder like SSJ4, its basically majority of people here just wanting a simple design with some slight differences, which the tease gave. DBS fans arent really easy to please, people hated the idea of the theory not so long ago when a valentines choco popped out having Goku with spiky red hair.

[emperior]

They cant exactly make another furry transformation or make the hair go wilder like SSJ4, its basically majority of people here just wanting a simple design with some slight differences, which the tease gave. DBS fans arent really easy to please, people hated the idea of the theory not so long ago when a valentines choco popped out having Goku with spiky red hair.

This design is awesome because of how simple it is. Though I honestly hope Goku (and Vegeta, if he unlocks this form too) will stop using other forms except for their base and this new one. Sort of like what they are doing with Gohan who has stopped using golden transformations ever since he re-gained his ultimate state. It would be good if each time Goku fights he starts by powering up in his base, then his hair spikes up a little and blue aura appears and bang, he's now in his full power form. Though this would happen only if the new form is stated to be efficient and not too draining.

[TBMx]

I don't really care what form overpowered, overexposed and overlame Goku gets to be honest. But

Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue with this theme playing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0uMjkSJBrc

No form beats that combination for epicness. New or old. Let Vegeta stay there and have Goku show off his new silver shitty kitty eyes for merch or whatever.