"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[ssjprodigy]

Regardless of the correction goku didn't do it in away that screams I don't want anything to do with him
Manga seems like he couldnt give too shits about his kids while anime shows that he cares about his family especially how black told him how he killed goten and chichi

We haven't seen gohan & goku interacting, lets see how they will handle their relationship if they didn't interact that's how much AT care for him,I'm calling it he won't be the leader of u7,I'm gonna die laughing if goku call his son a disappointment or he haven't though up of recruiting him

I am 90% certain that Gohan being the leader is in the outline since I have a hard time thinking Toei would do it, even if they seem to like Gohan more than Toriyama. And to be fair, Anime Goku wasn't thinking of Gohan either. He had to be reminded he had another son.

Everything else...let's wait and see. But I sadly can't say I would be shocked if Goku did badmouth Gohan even thought Goku in the original manga was nothing but supportive to his kids, even when he completely missed the mark.

I dont get how he cant like his eldest son when the other one is damn clone who accomplished nothing to the plot

Well, Goten has shown up several times in the Super manga, while Gohan has been the ghost since the Battle of Gods section.

Idk if you get what I mean but let me explain this to you
Gohan is the ELDEST SON OF GOKU
Third most popular character in the series
Is not a look alike of is father for promotion
Is a UNIQUE CHARACTER
Defeated a Main Villain PERFECT CELL
Is the 3rd most developed character in the entire series
Fought in every major arc since the Saiyan saga with the exception of the the future trunks arc and and universe 6 tournament
Hyped up to be a key player in this CURRENT ARC
Has his wife and daughter to protect just like Vegeta
Is THE MC OF HIS OWN ARC the great saiyaman saga and end of the cell saga
Been shown the most with Goku unlike Goten
HAS A PERSONALITY
I can go all day

[ssjprodigy]

Oh yeah forgot to say this GOHAN ACTUALLY AGESSS

[HeroR]

We haven't seen gohan & goku interacting, lets see how they will handle their relationship if they didn't interact that's how much AT care for him,I'm calling it he won't be the leader of u7,I'm gonna die laughing if goku call his son a disappointment or he haven't though up of recruiting him

I am 90% certain that Gohan being the leader is in the outline since I have a hard time thinking Toei would do it, even if they seem to like Gohan more than Toriyama. And to be fair, Anime Goku wasn't thinking of Gohan either. He had to be reminded he had another son.

Everything else...let's wait and see. But I sadly can't say I would be shocked if Goku did badmouth Gohan even thought Goku in the original manga was nothing but supportive to his kids, even when he completely missed the mark.

I dont get how he cant like his eldest son when the other one is damn clone who accomplished nothing to the plot

Well, Goten has shown up several times in the Super manga, while Gohan has been the ghost since the Battle of Gods section.

Idk if you get what I mean but let me explain this to you
Gohan is the ELDEST SON OF GOKU
Third most popular character in the series
Is not a look alike of is father for promotion
Is a UNIQUE CHARACTER
Defeated a Main Villain PERFECT CELL
Is the 3rd most developed character in the entire series
Fought in every major arc since the Saiyan saga with the exception of the the future trunks arc and and universe 6 tournament
Hyped up to be a key player in this CURRENT ARC
Has his wife and daughter to protect just like Vegeta
Is THE MC OF HIS OWN ARC the great saiyaman saga and end of the cell saga
Been shown the most with Goku unlike Goten
HAS A PERSONALITY
I can go all day

What does that have to do with Goku liking Gohan?

And as the saying goes, that was thing, this is now, and Gohan until recently has been a non-factor in Super.

[ssjprodigy]

I am 90% certain that Gohan being the leader is in the outline since I have a hard time thinking Toei would do it, even if they seem to like Gohan more than Toriyama. And to be fair, Anime Goku wasn't thinking of Gohan either. He had to be reminded he had another son.

Everything else...let's wait and see. But I sadly can't say I would be shocked if Goku did badmouth Gohan even thought Goku in the original manga was nothing but supportive to his kids, even when he completely missed the mark.



Well, Goten has shown up several times in the Super manga, while Gohan has been the ghost since the Battle of Gods section.

Idk if you get what I mean but let me explain this to you
Gohan is the ELDEST SON OF GOKU
Third most popular character in the series
Is not a look alike of is father for promotion
Is a UNIQUE CHARACTER
Defeated a Main Villain PERFECT CELL
Is the 3rd most developed character in the entire series
Fought in every major arc since the Saiyan saga with the exception of the the future trunks arc and and universe 6 tournament
Hyped up to be a key player in this CURRENT ARC
Has his wife and daughter to protect just like Vegeta
Is THE MC OF HIS OWN ARC the great saiyaman saga and end of the cell saga
Been shown the most with Goku unlike Goten
HAS A PERSONALITY
I can go all day

What does that have to do with Goku liking Gohan?

And as the saying goes, that was thing, this is now, and Gohan until recently has been a non-factor in Super.

What has Goten done in super did he fight against freeza army no, is he raising a child of his own no is he fighting in this tournament NO

[ssjprodigy]

I am 90% certain that Gohan being the leader is in the outline since I have a hard time thinking Toei would do it, even if they seem to like Gohan more than Toriyama. And to be fair, Anime Goku wasn't thinking of Gohan either. He had to be reminded he had another son.

Everything else...let's wait and see. But I sadly can't say I would be shocked if Goku did badmouth Gohan even thought Goku in the original manga was nothing but supportive to his kids, even when he completely missed the mark.



Well, Goten has shown up several times in the Super manga, while Gohan has been the ghost since the Battle of Gods section.

Idk if you get what I mean but let me explain this to you
Gohan is the ELDEST SON OF GOKU
Third most popular character in the series
Is not a look alike of is father for promotion
Is a UNIQUE CHARACTER
Defeated a Main Villain PERFECT CELL
Is the 3rd most developed character in the entire series
Fought in every major arc since the Saiyan saga with the exception of the the future trunks arc and and universe 6 tournament
Hyped up to be a key player in this CURRENT ARC
Has his wife and daughter to protect just like Vegeta
Is THE MC OF HIS OWN ARC the great saiyaman saga and end of the cell saga
Been shown the most with Goku unlike Goten
HAS A PERSONALITY
I can go all day

What does that have to do with Goku liking Gohan?

And as the saying goes, that was thing, this is now, and Gohan until recently has been a non-factor in Super.

Goten HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE TRUNKS PLAYBUDDY/SIDEKICK

[HeroR]

What has Goten done in super did he fight against freeza army no, is he raising a child of his own no is he fighting in this tournament NO

Gohan fought against fodder, something that the likes that Roshi could do. He then got his mentor killed because he was so out of shape. So Resurrection 'F' was exactly Gohan's proudest moment.

Raising Pan is mostly an off-scene affair and doesn't changed the fact he really didn't do anything.

This arc is the first time since Super started that Gohan has actually been important.

While Goten hasn't done much, Gohan's role isn't exactly anything to brag about.

Goten HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE TRUNKS PLAYBUDDY/SIDEKICK

Which is still more Gohan has been until recently.

[ssjprodigy]

What has Goten done in super did he fight against freeza army no, is he raising a child of his own no is he fighting in this tournament NO

Gohan fought against fodder, something that the likes that Roshi could do. He then got his mentor killed because he was so out of shape. So Resurrection 'F' was exactly Gohan's proudest moment.

Raising Pan is mostly an off-scene affair and doesn't changed the fact he really didn't do anything.

This arc is the first time since Super started that Gohan has actually been important.

While Goten hasn't done much, Gohan's role isn't exactly anything to brag about.

I'm not bragging though what I am saying that Gohan is far more relevant and important than Goten in Super SHISAMI AND TOGAMA were the strongest soldier freeza had how the he'll are they fodder just cause they don't match up to Goku and Vegeta does not make them foddder Gohan fought a SSJ2 Goku and KEPT UP WITH A SSB GOKU AND STATED TO RIVAL HIM BY THE NARRATOR does that make Gohan fodder ssj3 Gotenks got bodied base Vegeta LMFAO

[ssjprodigy]

When you ask someone about Dragon Ball they always bring up Goku, Vegeta, Gohan Piccolo, Future Trunks and Krillin and Yamacha due to memes they never mention Goten and Trunks cause the writers don't care about them just like how they don't age them RIGHT?!!

[ssjprodigy]

And Gohan is already confirmed to be in more pages than Goten cause he actually is a key play for this current arc that's why he's in the cover for the current arc but o wait where's Goten?!! Idk lol

[Boo Machine]

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[Trek405]

I refuse to believe that goku is so clueless and inconsiderate as to not be aware of either of his kids births. Goten i can understand but not gohan. I also hate how toyo had vegeta call out goku on his parenting. I beleive vegeta to be a good father these days but given his track record he shouldn't be calling goku out. This was just unnecessary.

[ssjprodigy]

"snip"

Alright, quick note, If you want to add something to what you said, you can edit you're previous post instead of clogging up the thread with double or triple posts. Just click the pencil on the last thing you posted and you can add or edit whatever.

My bad I'm pretty new here whenever I am in a discussion with someone and have great evidence to back it up I tend to go all out lol but I'll take notice next time

[Miracles]

The statement is unimportant. Train instead of seeing your kids's birth.
That advice is typical Goku. Doesn't do any damage to the story or his character.

[Marlowe89]

Not sure why people are blaming Toyotaro for Goku's portrayal when that's been pretty thoroughly consistent throughout both mediums for Super. This doesn't exist in a vacuum -- both Toei and Toyotaro are just following the kind of narrative Toriyama established.

Hell, I distinctly remember manga fans blaming Toei for this kind of thing once upon a time, particularly when Goku implied he didn't know about kissing during the Black arc, only for the manga to show the exact same statement after the equivalent chapter was released.

[pacz360]

Not sure why people are blaming Toyotaro for Goku's portrayal when that's been pretty thoroughly consistent throughout both mediums for Super. This doesn't exist in a vacuum -- both Toei and Toyotaro are just following the kind of narrative Toriyama established.

Hell, I distinctly remember manga fans blaming Toei for this kind of thing once upon a time, particularly when Goku implied he didn't know about kissing during the Black arc, only for the manga to show the exact same statement after the equivalent chapter was released.

Difference is it was only goten he said he missed in the anime so it was alright but to add the fact he missed his first born son as well in the manga? Fuck outta here with that shit seems unnecessary as hell especially vegeta trying to play the moral high ground crap
Plus add more goku is a shit father crap meme that god forbid need to be alive

[HeroR]

Not sure why people are blaming Toyotaro for Goku's portrayal when that's been pretty thoroughly consistent throughout both mediums for Super. This doesn't exist in a vacuum -- both Toei and Toyotaro are just following the kind of narrative Toriyama established.

Hell, I distinctly remember manga fans blaming Toei for this kind of thing once upon a time, particularly when Goku implied he didn't know about kissing during the Black arc, only for the manga to show the exact same statement after the equivalent chapter was released.

As I personally noted, I don't have issue with Goku not seeing Gohan's birth. My issue is that Vegeta, the former abuser, is the one calling him out.

[Marlowe89]

As I personally noted, I don't have issue with Goku not seeing Gohan's birth. My issue is that Vegeta, the former abuser, is the one calling him out.

To be clear, I do agree that there's a hint of hypocrisy in Vegeta's statement. Personally I think that's par for the course for his character though; I don't think these things usually cross his mind whenever he has the chance to get one over on his longtime rival.

[RedHeat]

I thought Toyotaro was the chosen one...

[emperior]

I don't care about the fact Goku never saw Gohan's birth. If the joke didn't come from Toriyama it has at the very least his seal of approval. Though Vegeta calling him out was a little out of place, considering he probably never saw Trunks' birth as well and Androids arc showed he didn't give a fuck about his son, and Future Trunks even called him out for that.

[shomangaka]

If Goku missed the birth of his sons or if he didn't makes no difference to me and it won't change how much I like the character.