Can they wish back the Universes after all have been erased?

[keyz05]

Let's say in this scenario... Universe 7 wins the Tournament of Power. All the other Universes besides are all gone expect Universe 7, and they all decide to use the Super Dragon Ball's to wish back to way they came before. However, one concern would remain as Lord Zeno would find out about this and restart the Tournament of Power. Can they bring back the Universes without any problems or would they have no choice but to go back fighting at the Tournament of Power again?

[SsjCookie]

Don't you think it would be too much on the nose, not to mention BORING, if all the other universes would eventually be wished back by U7?
This is the worst case scenario in my opinion. ..So dull.

But if this really will come to pass, then they are free to make any wish they want I guess.
I somehow think Zeno would be indifferent to them bringing the other universes back.

[MagmonKai]

I kind of figured that wouldn't work because Zeno could just snap his fingers and erase all those universes again. NO, they will have to be creative if they want to wish back the erased universes. They would have to get approval from GP or Zeno. If he gives them approval, then what was the point of this tournament?

[The gr]

I kind of figured that wouldn't work because Zeno could just snap his fingers and erase all those universes again. NO, they will have to be creative if they want to wish back the erased universes. They would have to get approval from GP or Zeno. If he gives them approval, then what was the point of this tournament?

Maybe the universe will merged because why they have that ridiculous line of u7 having 27 planet.People need to deal with this,DB was never a tragic story and the mere idea of Gohan is the reason why a billion people erased just don't sit right,a user summed my thought on the Erasure viewtopic.php?f=25&t=39582&p=1365524#p1365524

[TheMikado]

I always preface this with, I've said this before but...

The entirety of Super is written in such a way that it completely hinges on Beerus waking up and meeting Goku. Wishing that Beerus never woke up and meet Goku does a number of things things:

BoG never happens

Goku and Vegeta aren't off training when Freeza's army comes to wish in the DB balls. Vegeta could have detected them on earth and wiped them out easy.

No tournament so no ToP idea for Zeno. We know that in Trunks timeline he doesn't destroy the universes yet so it could still be millions of years in the future.

Future Trunks timeline isn't affected because there's no Godtube video for Zamasu to get mad about.

And finally no ToP wiping out universes.

This single wish would correct every change and make EoZ canon easily.

Everyone and everything still exists just not intermingled.

[Lord Beerus]

That's what I'm 100% expecting to happen. Not only will all of the universes that Zeno has destroyed will be wished back, but I also think all the destroyed universes will be merged into one universe.

[JulieYBM]

The universes will be restored. That's been obvious since the moment it was announced that they would be erased. Bandai isn't going to just let the series dump away a hundred new characters that it can sell merchandise of, after all.

[Basako]

Well, the super dragon balls are supposed to be limitless, so they probably can and will. Then the thing will be to convince the Zenos to let them exist, but, come on, Mr. Satan convinced Boo to stop killing, anything is possible.

[IntoTheFire]

Dragon Ball isn't really known for having a completely grim conclusion. Sure there were some exceptions like the FT arc, but that really only affected Future Trunks. He still survived as did Mai, and they got to live with the other earthlings, albeit from a different timeline. And even if that weren't the case it still had no particular effect on the present timeline. I mean, Trunks's timeline always had casualties. From the beginning we knew that most of the characters we knew were dead, but it had no bearing to the present as they all lived (well, minus Goku).
I just can't see them permanently killing off so many of the newly introduced characters, especially after getting to know them. Champa, Cabba, Hit, Caulifla, Kale, Gowasu, Lavender...... Not in a show like Dragon Ball.
To be honest, Zeno is so childlike that I can see a little begging from Goku working. He could just say he allows them to be brought back so they can have another tournament like this or because they amused him so much or whatnot.

[MagmonKai]

I always preface this with, I've said this before but...

The entirety of Super is written in such a way that it completely hinges on Beerus waking up and meeting Goku. Wishing that Beerus never woke up and meet Goku does a number of things things:

BoG never happens

Goku and Vegeta aren't off training when Freeza's army comes to wish in the DB balls. Vegeta could have detected them on earth and wiped them out easy.

No tournament so no ToP idea for Zeno. We know that in Trunks timeline he doesn't destroy the universes yet so it could still be millions of years in the future.

Future Trunks timeline isn't affected because there's no Godtube video for Zamasu to get mad about.

And finally no ToP wiping out universes.

This single wish would correct every change and make EoZ canon easily.

Everyone and everything still exists just not intermingled.

So your big plan involves undoing everything that happened prior to the start of Super? That's the stupidest idea if I ever heard one (No offense to you personally, just the idea). It's a horrible writing cop-out that I hope never sees the light of day in Super. I hope the writer don't see this, because that is absolutely horrid, I would quit the show if that happened.

I feel like there is a better solution, namely that the universes remain non-existent. We still have 4 other universes to spar with, build new lore on. We don't really, or I rather, don't care about characters that were created just for this arc. I hope they don't use the SDBs to revive the whole universes.

[TheMikado]

I always preface this with, I've said this before but...

The entirety of Super is written in such a way that it completely hinges on Beerus waking up and meeting Goku. Wishing that Beerus never woke up and meet Goku does a number of things things:

BoG never happens

Goku and Vegeta aren't off training when Freeza's army comes to wish in the DB balls. Vegeta could have detected them on earth and wiped them out easy.

No tournament so no ToP idea for Zeno. We know that in Trunks timeline he doesn't destroy the universes yet so it could still be millions of years in the future.

Future Trunks timeline isn't affected because there's no Godtube video for Zamasu to get mad about.

And finally no ToP wiping out universes.

This single wish would correct every change and make EoZ canon easily.

Everyone and everything still exists just not intermingled.

So your big plan involves undoing everything that happened prior to the start of Super? That's the stupidest idea if I ever heard one. It's a horrible writing cop-out that I hope never sees the light of day in Super. I hope the writer don't see this, because that is absolutely horrid, I would quit the show if that happened.

I feel like there is a better solution, namely that the universes remain non-existent. We still have 4 other universes to spar with, build new lore on. We don't really, or I rather, don't care about characters that were created just for this arc. I hope they don't use the SDBs to revive the whole universes.

There won't be a show to watch at that point so you quitting the show won't matter. Lol

There's nothing stupid about it. It would require great planning and writing. Unlike every other arc in say Z where regardless of the Namek/Frieza arc the androids would have still happened or the Buu arc still happens regardless as we've seen with the Future Trunks timeline.
I don't think it's accidentally or coincidentally that each arc is linked back to a single event.

There's nothing stupid about intelligent planning.

[MagmonKai]

I fail to see how wishing everything in super to be undone...all the transformations, the powers, the battles, the people we met, and have it all go away because eventually Zeno will decided to destroy everything. The only plus is someday Goku black could come back. We know that they plan on continuing the show past EOZ so I don't see why we need to make everything irrelevant. This isn't the likely course of action, so I'm not going to belabor the point.

[TheMikado]

I fail to see how wishing everything in super to be undone...all the transformations, the powers, the battles, the people we met, and have it all go away because eventually Zeno will decided to destroy everything. The only plus is someday Goku black could come back.

I'm not understanding what you're not understanding.

The end game is here, the King of All is about to wipe out the majority of the mutliverse and reality itself and the prize is the Super Dragonballs, the ultimate wishing tool which all other Dragonballs are based on.

Beerus established Goku as a threat to the multiverse.
Having fought the strongest mortals in almost all the universes and rivaling the Gods of Destruction in power, and destroying most of the universes, where else can they go?

This route revives every single person that's died due to the events of Super. Trunks timeline is revived and every single universe is back to how it was. Zeno could be a lazy dumb good for nothing and never destroy the universes because he never figured out a "fun" way to do it. Or he could billions of years in the future. Who knows but the point it narratively it easily lets EoZ fit and things get normalized again.

Everyone and everything we've seen still exists just not interacting so they can still make toys or side stories if they want. The exception being Goku Black who technically is just Zamasu anyway.

[kemuri07]

Of course they can and will. It's how Goku gets away with being a complete shitstain for starting this tournament: Goku (or whoever) uses the Dragonballs to wish everyone back into existence. Goku gets to be the hero again. yay!

[TheMikado]

Of course they can and will. It's how Goku gets away with being a complete shitstain for starting this tournament: Goku (or whoever) uses the Dragonballs to wish everyone back into existence. Goku gets to be the hero again. yay!

Exactly, these people aren't staying dead. We've never had a large mass of people stay dead in DB history when Goku is around. Thats why the Future Trunks universe wipe is suspicious. I don't think they would be willing to end his story like that unless they knew they were going to reverse it shortly.

[MaskedRider]

I'm going to keep being open minded to whatever may happen because the end of the Future Trunks arc was unpredictable.
Heck even I thought when universe nine got erased that they would have covered it up and that nothing bad actually happened but no it dun no exist anymo'