"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kanassa]

After this episode, I'm sure about a thing, even more than before: Jiren is the worst character ever created in this franchise

But GT Bra is still a thing

I really prefer her Dat girl is a badass like papa Vegeta :') has more balls than Jiren for now

From my point of view: Bra was annoying, useless and only served to drag down Vegeta's character and really any other character she interacted with...

I agree Jiren needs to do something, but he isn't affecting the quality of other characters yet.

[Ki Breaker]

After this episode, I'm sure about a thing, even more than before: Jiren is the worst character ever created in this franchise

But GT Bra is still a thing

So is GT pan..
And Cauliflowa..

[MrBlackFox]

But GT Bra is still a thing

I really prefer her Dat girl is a badass like papa Vegeta :') has more balls than Jiren for now

From my point of view: Bra was annoying, useless and only served to drag down Vegeta's character and really any other character she interacted with...

I agree Jiren needs to do something, but he isn't affecting the quality of other characters yet.

He's affecting U11's quality imo, making them look like useless weaklings

Does he really works alone while being in an elite team? Why no combos or rescue maneuvers?

[Ki Breaker]

Does he really works alone while being in an elite team? Why no combos or rescue maneuvers?

I once said with this attitude how is he even a member of a team like that, seems like I was right, he dosen't even care about the team..
He gets solo and is probably a member for them healh benefits..

[Kanassa]

After this episode, I'm sure about a thing, even more than before: Jiren is the worst character ever created in this franchise

But GT Bra is still a thing

So is GT pan..
And Cauliflowa..

Pan just had an annoying voice, and Caulifla is pretty cool. Bra surpasses all in quantity and quality of problems.

[MrBlackFox]

After this episode, I'm sure about a thing, even more than before: Jiren is the worst character ever created in this franchise

But GT Bra is still a thing

So is GT pan..
And Cauliflowa..

LOL, aside from jokes and speaking seriously, GT character development is a disaster

Almost everything Trunks related, Goten being useless, Uub useful as a living room lamp, aside from his brief fight with Baby and fusion with Buu, Pan being annoying af ( though I admit I liked her, maybe my favourite GT character with Majin Uub and kid Goku) Gohan...brrr

But I basically don't consider GT anymore, I feel like they'll retcon saying is in another universe / timeline and will overwrite it with a new series

While I strongly disagree about Caulifla, she's the goat

[Ki Breaker]

But GT Bra is still a thing

So is GT pan..
And Cauliflowa..

Pan just had an annoying voice, and Caulifla is pretty cool. Bra surpasses all in quantity and quality of problems.

Oh I agree with bra being the worst, but pan is a close second..
Just to name someone from super did I choose Cauliflowa, she is the biggest waste of bio material the shoe has come up with ( obvious exaggeration )

[MrBlackFox]

Does he really works alone while being in an elite team? Why no combos or rescue maneuvers?

I once said with this attitude how is he even a member of a team like that, seems like I was right, he dosen't even care about the team..
He gets solo and is probably a member for them healh benefits..

Bingo, so I'm not the only one though that haha

[MrBlackFox]

But GT Bra is still a thing

So is GT pan..
And Cauliflowa..

Pan just had an annoying voice, and Caulifla is pretty cool. Bra surpasses all in quantity and quality of problems.

Loool, i was thinking really to pan's voice terrible

[Baggie_Saiyan]

After this episode, I'm sure about a thing, even more than before: Jiren is the worst character ever created in this franchise

Toei and Toriyama's intentions were to give him a misterious, powerful an serious tone, making him feel like a really dangerous enemy

Now I feel like they dragged this game for too long, basically making him looks like a retarded, buff idiot who can't say a word other than " get lost" and " mmhhh" ( this episode)


What the fuck, eliminate him NOW I can't stand him anymore, seriously

I know is probably impossible, but I'd laugh my ass off if someone stronger kicks in and beat him to death
Please Toei make me love him, make him do something really badass to change my mind

The arc isn't over yet, stop exaggerating. I don't like how Jiren is being handled but the arc isn't over yet, he could end up being one of the more cooler bosses. Remember when the big bad Freeza was just a posh guy in a hover chair? Or the big bad Buu was a pink chubby creature?

[HeroR]

But GT Bra is still a thing

So is GT pan..
And Cauliflowa..

Pan just had an annoying voice, and Caulifla is pretty cool. Bra surpasses all in quantity and quality of problems.

I don't see what's so bad about GT Bra, other than her not having a personality. If we were talking about U16's Bra from Multiverse, I would agree.

[Noah]

There's also one or two from Universe 2 being hidden in the shadows when the team was introduced.

I would just laugh if one of them were stronger enough to curbstomp Jiren

Did he really had to tell the cart race, Trunks' flashback or this episodes fight? No man, he is telling his own thing in his own pace, zero rushing and totally apart from the anime. If it had to promote US arc, it would have started doing so in February, and here we are, in August.

All of these were not a chapter long IIRC, sure the pace in the previous arc was pretty slow to my taste, but I can't see why Toyotaro didn't want to rush things, this current arc probably have the same pacing as well.

[Ki Breaker]

There's also one or two from Universe 2 being hidden in the shadows when the team was introduced.

I would just laugh if one of them were strong enough to curbstomp Jiren

Say, if jiren indeed is the mortal stonger than the God of destruction, why was berrus surprised universe 11 was strong enough to give hit trouble, he should obviously know they stand no chance from the start against him..
But then again, he could just be surprised even dyspo was capable enough to give hit trouble

[Kanassa]

There's also one or two from Universe 2 being hidden in the shadows when the team was introduced.

I would just laugh if one of them were stronger enough to curbstomp Jiren

That would be something Toriyama would do

[namekiansaiyan]

There's also one or two from Universe 2 being hidden in the shadows when the team was introduced.

I would just laugh if one of them were strong enough to curbstomp Jiren

Say, if jiren indeed is the mortal stonger than the God of destruction, why was berrus surprised universe 11 was strong enough to give hit trouble, he should obviously know they stand no chance from the start against him..
But then again, he could just be surprised even dyspo was capable enough to give hit trouble

How do we even though Jiren is the strongest fighter in the tournament?

[Noah]

Say, if jiren indeed is the mortal stonger than the God of destruction, why was berrus surprised universe 11 was strong enough to give hit trouble, he should obviously know they stand no chance from the start against him..
But then again, he could just be surprised even dyspo was capable enough to give hit trouble

I also don't believe in this theory, mainly because when Whis told about this mortal, they're talking about the U4 Hakaishin, so I suppose this mortal inhabit this universe.

How do we even though Jiren is the strongest fighter in the tournament?

Mere assumptions.

[Legion]

There's also one or two from Universe 2 being hidden in the shadows when the team was introduced.

I would just laugh if one of them were strong enough to curbstomp Jiren

Say, if jiren indeed is the mortal stonger than the God of destruction, why was berrus surprised universe 11 was strong enough to give hit trouble, he should obviously know they stand no chance from the start against him..
But then again, he could just be surprised even dyspo was capable enough to give hit trouble

Because is not Jiren. When Goku fought Toppo, Beerus couldn't believe that Universe 11 had a fighter that strong, Beerus was shocked after knowing that Goku was fighting universe 11's second best and is shocked even in this episode.

If is Jiren, is bad writing.

[TBMx]

I'm tired of being ghetto gagged with Goku. First they retcon Goku's absorption of Super Saiyan God, then they having him transform into Blue over and over to help HIT when Whis said that burns stamina, Goku is for some reason not going after Jiren and is instead butting in on Hit and U6's fight, leaving Caulifla to just watch when it's her damn teammate in trouble. What about the two nameks then? Can they help? Magetta? Oh wait, Toei has to fill their stupid Goku quota for every single episode. Then he steals Vegeta's back and forth Red and Blue switching from the manga. Then Goku implies he will hog the Hit fight as well as Jiren. Then they call Goku and Hit the dream team, Goku U7's ace, and we know Goku's getting a new form...STOP. ENOUGH. I'm sick of him. I f***ing hate him. His attitude completely undermines the stakes of the tournament. He'll butt in for HIT, but won't when his supposed"best friend" Krillin struggles. If Toriyama wanted to write the idiot Goku he always wanted, who doesn't know what a kiss is and wants to fight at all costs, with the "Poison slipping in and out of the shadows", then he should have done a damn reboot instead of a continuation of a series where Goku wasn't like that.

And seeing how Goku is all they have to offer, I'm done.

[emperior]

Say, if jiren indeed is the mortal stonger than the God of destruction, why was berrus surprised universe 11 was strong enough to give hit trouble, he should obviously know they stand no chance from the start against him..
But then again, he could just be surprised even dyspo was capable enough to give hit trouble

I also don't believe in this theory, mainly because when Whis told about this mortal, they're talking about the U4 Hakaishin, so I suppose this mortal inhabit this universe.

How do we even though Jiren is the strongest fighter in the tournament?

Mere assumptions.

When Whis talked about the strongest mortal it wasn't stated what universe he's from. They never mentioned him being from U4, and all evidence points out towards this mortal being from one of the 4 universes not in the ToP.

[Noah]

When Whis talked about the strongest mortal it wasn't stated what universe he's from. They never mentioned him being from U4, and all evidence points out towards this mortal being from one of the 4 universes not in the ToP.

I meant the subject was about one Hakaishin that Beerus lost a arm wrestling, which was Quitela from Universe 4, right? So we could suppose that the said mortal is from it as there two shadowed figures to be revelead.