"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[MrBlackFox]

There is no way in hell Hitto won't reach the final 10, he can easily crack the top 5. The finalists will be: Jiren, Toppo, Hitto Kale, Goku, Vegeta and Frieza, A-17, Frost and Gohan.

Why would there be 5 fighters from Universe 7? Gohan, Frost and Kale will be useless here. This will definitely not be the final 10 for the tournament.

Gohan useless? I don't think so buddy.
And people are really underestimating Kale.

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Gohan is definitely going to be one of the final 10, even 5
They'd never build a massive background for him, rebuilding him from scratches, only to give him nothing but some spotlights in the TOP, I feel like he'll have another Cell saga like moment, you'll see, he'll be the star again this time around

17 and Piccolo will be crushed to death very soon, after the namekians will step in and Piccolo get his spotlight both will be complete and they'll go out in a theatrical manner, maybe 17 at the hands of Jiren or Toppo, Piccolo by both or one of the namekians, but they'll be definitely trashed

Caulifla will go out, Kale in for the finals, Cabba probably out too

So the finalists for me: Goku, Gohan, maybe Frieza, Jiren, Toppo, Kale, Hit, Frost if Frieza is in, maybe Ribrianne ( insert someone else if you prefer) will be the final 10

Final phase will definitely be an universe 6, 7 and 11 affair, for me

Then the second final phase after the first final phase : Hit out, Kale out, Frieza out, Toppo out, Ribrianne or another out, Frost if Frieza is still in in the finals out, we'll have Gohan and Goku vs Jiren

Goku will break his limits, Jiren will do this too, Goku out Gohan top his father's level, Gohan kicks Jiren out, and ask the Dragon to restore everything







...or, as it's more likely, someone happens before ToP ends, and the ending teaser will come true

[namekiansaiyan]

Why would there be 5 fighters from Universe 7? Gohan, Frost and Kale will be useless here. This will definitely not be the final 10 for the tournament.

Gohan useless? I don't think so buddy.
And people are really underestimating Kale.

This

Gohan is definitely going to be one of the final 10, even 5
They'd never build a massive background for him, rebuilding him from scratches, only to give him nothing but some spotlights in the TOP, I feel like he'll have another Cell saga like moment, you'll see, he'll be the star again this time around

17 and Piccolo will be crushed to death very soon, after the namekians will step in and Piccolo get his spotlight both will be complete and they'll go out in a theatrical manner, maybe 17 at the hands of Jiren or Toppo, Piccolo by both or one of the namekians, but they'll be definitely trashed

Caulifla will go out, Kale in for the finals, Cabba probably out too

So the finalists for me: Goku, Gohan, maybe Frieza, Jiren, Toppo, Kale, Hit, Frost if Frieza is in, maybe Ribrianne ( insert someone else if you prefer) will be the final 10

Final phase will definitely be an universe 6, 7 and 11 affair, for me

Then the second final phase after the first final phase : Hit out, Kale out, Frieza out, Toppo out, Ribrianne or another out, Frost if Frieza is still in in the finals out, we'll have Gohan and Goku vs Jiren

Goku will break his limits, Jiren will do this too, Goku out Gohan top his father's level, Gohan kicks Jiren out, and ask the Dragon to restore everything







...or, as it's more likely, someone happens before ToP ends, and the ending teaser will come true

In the space of 2 days Gohan is going to go from drawing with Lavenda to being more powerful than new form Goku? How exactly? Gohan will be any where near the final unless he has help getting there. If Gohan wins by himself then there is no point in any other character existing from Universe 7 if he can become stronger than anyone is less than 2 days.

The ending will be old by the time the end of the tournament comes around as we should have a new one.

Why are 17, Piccolo and Vegeta going to lose so easily? What is it based on? Why would Ribrianne, Frost and Kale be there when she is outclassed . Have you actually thought about what the match ups will be and how that logistically works with the fighters remaining.

What is considered the 'finals' of the tournament? Top 5? Top 10? Top 15? Top 20?

[GodKaio-Ken]

Gohan certainly won't be fodder this time around...but I cant think of a worse ending than him beating Jiren. Even if he wins another way..fine, but if he beats Jiren I wont be able to enjoy the show anymore the same way I have. I wouldn't quit watching but that's a worse ass pull than the sword of hope.

[Ki Breaker]

Gohan certainly won't be fodder this time around...but I cant think of a worse ending than him beating Jiren. Even if he wins another way..fine, but if he beats Jiren I wont be able to enjoy the show anymore the same way I have. I wouldn't quit watching but that's a worse ass pull than the sword of hope.

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

[namekiansaiyan]

Gohan certainly won't be fodder this time around...but I cant think of a worse ending than him beating Jiren. Even if he wins another way..fine, but if he beats Jiren I wont be able to enjoy the show anymore the same way I have. I wouldn't quit watching but that's a worse ass pull than the sword of hope.

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

How far does a character have to go in the tournament to not be considered 'fodder' or just not important?

[Ki Breaker]

Gohan certainly won't be fodder this time around...but I cant think of a worse ending than him beating Jiren. Even if he wins another way..fine, but if he beats Jiren I wont be able to enjoy the show anymore the same way I have. I wouldn't quit watching but that's a worse ass pull than the sword of hope.

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

How far does a character have to go in the tournament to not be considered 'fodder' or just not important?

My post dosen't contain anything related to "fodder" so I am not quite sure where this question is coming from..
Now for the answer, in my eyes, nobody is fodder as long as they leave an impact..

[HeroR]

Gohan certainly won't be fodder this time around...but I cant think of a worse ending than him beating Jiren. Even if he wins another way..fine, but if he beats Jiren I wont be able to enjoy the show anymore the same way I have. I wouldn't quit watching but that's a worse ass pull than the sword of hope.

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

Which is lackluster compared to most of the characters on the U7 team.

[Ki Breaker]

Gohan certainly won't be fodder this time around...but I cant think of a worse ending than him beating Jiren. Even if he wins another way..fine, but if he beats Jiren I wont be able to enjoy the show anymore the same way I have. I wouldn't quit watching but that's a worse ass pull than the sword of hope.

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

Which is lackluster compared to most of the characters on the U7 team.

That's depends on how one wants to interpret it..
If it looks stupid and it works, it ain't stupid..
There are no good strategies or bad strategies as long as you win the fight..

[namekiansaiyan]

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

How far does a character have to go in the tournament to not be considered 'fodder' or just not important?

My post dosen't contain anything related to "fodder" so I am not quite sure where this question is coming from..
Now for the answer, in my eyes, nobody is fodder as long as they leave an impact..

It is basically what the majority of conversations and topics are about though. Every discussion is about how far someone is going or how bad they are going to be. Everyone is basically saying that unless a character is in the last 10 then they are weak and useless.

All I am saying is once this arc is done the only characters people will say are worthy are the top 10.

Which is lackluster compared to most of the characters on the U7 team.

He only managed to beat Botamo easily because Goku told Gohan about him. The Obuni fight was basically I can take more punches then you.

[HeroR]

He only managed to beat Botamo easily because Goku told Gohan about him. The Obuni fight was basically I can take more punches then you.

I have no doubt he would have figured out Botamo's gimmick, but it's ashamed that they had Gohan know because Goku told him and his solution was the weird punching until he lifts off the ground.

Obuni was pretty bad since it's Gohan going back to overpowering his foe.

[Ki Breaker]

It is basically what the majority of conversations and topics are about though. Every discussion is about how far someone is going or how bad they are going to be. Everyone is basically saying that unless a character is in the last 10 then they are weak and useless.

All I am saying is once this arc is done the only characters people will say are worthy are the top 10.

People also say stuff like this..
Gotta take you pick mate..
I wouldn't mind if Gohan gets eliminated now, he dealt the finishing blow to universe 10 and that's good enough..

[Whatever]

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

Which is lackluster compared to most of the characters on the U7 team.

That's depends on how one wants to interpret it..
If it looks stupid and it works, it ain't stupid..
There are no good strategies or bad strategies as long as you win the fight..

They had to bend the rules of how Botamo's ability works so Gohan could win with an inferior strategy than the one used by Goku and Vegeta,said strategy was to punch him again and again.
Not to mention against Obuni,if you count tank and counter as strategy then i guess every fight in fiction had strategy.

[HeroR]

They had to bend the rules of how Botamo's ability works so Gohan could win with an inferior strategy than the one used by Goku and Vegeta,said strategy was to punch him again and again.
Not to mention against Obuni,if you count tank and counter as strategy then i guess every fight in fiction had strategy.

Honestly, that is what annoys me about Botamo's fight and they didn't have to do it. The only thing I can think of is that they forgot how Botamo could absorb the Kamehameha or Gohan is so powerful that he overwhelmed Botamo's absorption to push him. If it was the latter, that would be a lucky guess on Gohan's part since he shouldn't have known that.

[perucho1990]

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And people are really underestimating Kale.

Kale stamina weakness wil be her downfall, someone is going to take advantage of it and eliminate her(could be Brianne).

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Like Goku Vegeta's hair in SSGSS has a subtle difference in the bangs:
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[namekiansaiyan]

Can someone tell me why some people think that the characters who have had big fights so far are the fighters that are going to do well?

[Michsi]

Can someone tell me why some people think that the characters who have had big fights so far are the fighters that are going to do well?

Probably because they also might coincide with the characters that were largely promoted? Meaning it encourages people too look forward to those characters.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Gohan certainly won't be fodder this time around...but I cant think of a worse ending than him beating Jiren. Even if he wins another way..fine, but if he beats Jiren I wont be able to enjoy the show anymore the same way I have. I wouldn't quit watching but that's a worse ass pull than the sword of hope.

Not if he beats Jiren by strategy, no..
He has been shown to be doing strategic battle throughout this arc.. It could very well be foreshadowing but I won't count on it.. Chances of him beating Jiren are slim to none..

Strategy is great but the guy is supposed to be on another level. If Gohan is suddenly stronger than the new Goku form it makes me question what the point is.

To the other poster who asked about fodder - I just meant hes a main guy and won't lose to a random weakish person, should last a while.

[namekiansaiyan]

Can someone tell me why some people think that the characters who have had big fights so far are the fighters that are going to do well?

Probably because they also might coincide with the characters that were largely promoted? Meaning it encourages people too look forward to those characters.

Doesn't everyone think there are too many 'hyped' characters for them to actually all do something.

[Jigurashi]

Gohan has had like 4-5 fights in this saga so far. Only his fights with Lavender, the team up, and somewhat Botamo had him using tactics in them. With Obuni he simply relied on being stronger, about as much of a strategy as Goku just tanking the mines. His other fights against Piccolo, Goku, and Obuni didn't really feature all that much if at all any tactics. He isn't a dumb fighter, but he really isn't all that tactical. I do appreciate them trying to make Gohan more of tactical of a fighter than he used to be though. He's at his peak as a fighter in skill and tactics currently right now.