"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[dbzfan7]

I'm betting on

Ultimate Gohan
Beerus
Vegetto
Gotenks

I think Vegetto is the least likely of the 4 and Ultimate Gohan is the most likely. Gotenks I think has a much better chance of getting in than Goten and Trunks, even as a tag team. Though I suppose they could have them tag, and their ultimate or whatever is Gotenks. But I think they'll just do Gotenks as he's just got a lot more going for him in move pool and memorability.

[ssjprodigy]

So who are the notable hero fighters not confirmed so far?

- Ultimate Gohan (although he's a shoe-in)
- Vegito (very likely, but I think they'll go with the SSJ version not Blue)
- Gotenks (maybe)
- Kid Trunks and Goten (I can see them as a tag team)
- Tenshinhan
- Yamcha
- Roshi
- Satan
- Videl


Of that list I think maybe 5 at most will make it in.

I don't think Ultimate Gohan is a shoe-in at all.

another version of gohan and buu is already confirmed (by the website) and cant be denied and I heavily doubt it Kid Gohan most likely it's ultimate

[precita]

The thing is this game doesn't seem to be based much on Super at all. That's why we have 18 and 17 together in their Cell saga outfits, and why 17 isn't treated as his own character like he is in Super. While I think at least Beerus will make it in the game, they seem to be focused on the DBZ era version of the characters.

Ultimate Gohan is likely, but it's also why I think we'll see Goten/Trunks or Gotenks when they're non-existent in Super. If Tenshinhan or Yamcha make it in they'll almost definitely be designed after their Saiyan/Namek saga outfits.

[KorgDTR2000]

another version of gohan and buu is already confirmed (by the website) and cant be denied and I heavily doubt it Kid Gohan most likely it's ultimate

I mean if you want to get into the leaked stuff then yeah, sure. I'm just saying that looking at the game from the surface he's not a shoe-in at all, because differentiating him from the other Saiyans in the game (we're up to six so far) seems like a really tall order, especially with the dearth of source material. But I guess if they draw from adult Gohan's fights with Dabra and Broly as well they could cobble something together. Maybe that's what they've done.

[ssjprodigy]

another version of gohan and buu is already confirmed (by the website) and cant be denied and I heavily doubt it Kid Gohan most likely it's ultimate

I mean if you want to get into the leaked stuff then yeah, sure. I'm just saying that looking at the game from the surface he's not a shoe-in at all, because differentiating him from the other Saiyans in the game (we're up to six so far) seems like a really tall order, especially with the dearth of source material. But I guess if they draw from adult Gohan's fights with Dabra and Broly as well they could cobble something together. Maybe that's what they've done.

dude it was confirmed [not leaked] by acysytems/ bandai that another variation of Gohan and buu is gonna be in the game, and they company is well known for making characters unique from each other, hell they will have to make another model for both of them with different combos and supers! its not speculation also Ultimate Gohan has been a mainstay in the dragon ball games since final bout of course he will have a spot on the roster
they took the slash explosion attack that trunks does from movie 13 so they have no problem taking moves from uncanon material


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[Bulma's Foot Masseur]

I keep hearing that the "story" of the game isn't actually playable, because of Guilty Gear doing something like that.

Do we know?

[EXBadguy]

I dunno about yall, but I think Trunks, Krillin, and 18 need to have diverse stances. I mean, all three of them have similar fighting stances. For Trunks, he could have a stance where it's just him standing normally like a badass, like the one that is shown in the roster, or SSJ Fighting Trunks' stance from BT3. For 18, just have a fighting stance similar to the Xenoverse games. And as for Krillin...well...I guess his stance his alright, but I would like it if he had a stance like this.

[KorgDTR2000]

dude it was confirmed [not leaked] by acysytems/ bandai that another variation of Gohan and buu is gonna be in the game, and they company is well known for making characters unique from each other, hell they will have to make another model for both of them with different combos and supers! keep up with news its not speculation also Ultimate Gohan has been a mainstay in the dragon ball games since final bout ofcourse he will have a spot on the roster
they took the slash explosion attack that trunks does from movie 13 so they have no problem taking moves from uncanon material


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No, it was not confirmed by Arcsys/Bandai that there were other versions of Gohan and Boo in the game. Maybe leaked isn't the right word either, but I feel it's more a accurate term when the information in question came from filenames on their website than from an official statement from the developer/publisher.

To be frank I was skeptical about his inclusion because I see zero reason to have him in the game, other than shallow fanservice. The character did absolutely nothing in the show other than swinging Boo around and as a whole adult Gohan didn't really do anything other than fire off the occasional Kamehameha, and nothing that isn't already covered by Goku. So if Ultimate Gohan is in the game, I'll need to be convinced of his worthiness because right now I think he'd be a waste of resources that could be directed towards more interesting characters.

[ssjprodigy]

dude it was confirmed [not leaked] by acysytems/ bandai that another variation of Gohan and buu is gonna be in the game, and they company is well known for making characters unique from each other, hell they will have to make another model for both of them with different combos and supers! keep up with news its not speculation also Ultimate Gohan has been a mainstay in the dragon ball games since final bout ofcourse he will have a spot on the roster
they took the slash explosion attack that trunks does from movie 13 so they have no problem taking moves from uncanon material


https://twitter.com/ssjprodigy/status/9 ... 3938265089
https://twitter.com/Quebaz23/status/898145111460196353

No, it was not confirmed by Arcsys/Bandai that there were other versions of Gohan and Boo in the game. Maybe leaked isn't the right word either, but I feel it's more a accurate term when the information in question came from filenames on their website than from an official statement from the developer/publisher.

To be frank I was skeptical about his inclusion because I see zero reason to have him in the game, other than shallow fanservice. The character did absolutely nothing in the show other than swinging Boo around and as a whole adult Gohan didn't really do anything other than fire off the occasional Kamehameha, and nothing that isn't already covered by Goku. So if Ultimate Gohan is in the game, I'll need to be convinced of his worthiness because right now I think he'd be a waste of resources that could be directed towards more interesting characters.

my point was that he had the highest chance in the game of being included! ssj3 goku''s super attack is in the game yet the form accomplished nothing of value in the series, he is a popular/iconic version of an important character in the orginal dragon ball manga and unlike ssj blue goku and vegeta he isnt a simple hair color change with upped stats. your in the small minority of people that dont want him in the game while the majority want him and bandai/ArcSys no matter if you think it is a "waste" will provide that. this conversation is over and we will wait for future announcements

[KorgDTR2000]

my point was that he had the highest chance in the game of being included! ssj3 goku''s super attack is in the game yet the form accomplished nothing of value in the series, he is a popular/iconic version of an important character in the orginal dragon ball manga and unlike ssj blue goku and vegeta he isnt a simple hair color change with upped stats. your in the small minority of people that dont want him in the game while the majority want him and bandai/ArcSys no matter if you think it is a "waste" will provide that. this conversation is over and we will wait for future announcements

SSJ3 is only used in a super attack, and only under certain conditions at that, and the form used in four fight scenes in the series and movies. So that's a pretty weak comparison.

And I'd like to see your data showing that most fans wanting Ultimate Gohan in the game, because that is totally contrary to what I've seen online which is general apathy towards Ultimate Gohan's presence, leaning towards antipathy because he offers so little gameplay-wise.

[ssjprodigy]

my point was that he had the highest chance in the game of being included! ssj3 goku''s super attack is in the game yet the form accomplished nothing of value in the series, he is a popular/iconic version of an important character in the orginal dragon ball manga and unlike ssj blue goku and vegeta he isnt a simple hair color change with upped stats. your in the small minority of people that dont want him in the game while the majority want him and bandai/ArcSys no matter if you think it is a "waste" will provide that. this conversation is over and we will wait for future announcements

SSJ3 is only used in a super attack, and only under certain conditions at that, and the form used in four fight scenes in the series and movies. So that's a pretty weak comparison.

And I'd like to see your data showing that most fans wanting Ultimate Gohan in the game, because that is totally contrary to what I've seen online which is general apathy towards Ultimate Gohan's presence, leaning towards antipathy because he offers so little gameplay-wise.

this forum thread, Dragon Ball FighterZ Reddit, DBZ Reddit, DB Amino, Youtube Comments and my real life friends lol look at the large amount of people that already put Ultimate Gohan on there wanted/expected character lists, young adults/Teens my age are not asking for dabura/Ginyu though it would be cool we will still mostly play with our saiyans and the company is trying to appeal towards us (T for Teens) why do you think they shown ssj goku, ssj vegeta, ssj2 Gohan first with their villains and added SSB Goku and Vegeta yet their more of a clone character than Ultimate Gohan cause there popular and powerful characters and if they add Ultimate Gohan he will be the 4th most powerful character right behind Golden Freeza for now and is gonna be abused online. but seriously I gotta sleep just wait for future announcements, the Convo is over

[LightBing]

Just because it's the most popular version doesn't mean it's the best for the game, the fact there's a limited number of slots makes the issue even more relevant.

That's true, but I think it's important to represent the SS2 form in some way. Gohan's obviously the most likely candidate for that. Gotenks, if he's in, will most likely be already SS3 by default.

Is it though? It's not like the manga gave that much importance to the form. The character's need to be represent not the forms.
I agree that this version of Gohan is correct in being shown as SSJ2, I just think there's better Gohan's to be in the game than this iteration, for the reasons I mentioned before.

[ssjprodigy]

Just because it's the most popular version doesn't mean it's the best for the game, the fact there's a limited number of slots makes the issue even more relevant.

That's true, but I think it's important to represent the SS2 form in some way. Gohan's obviously the most likely candidate for that. Gotenks, if he's in, will most likely be already SS3 by default.

Is it though? It's not like the manga gave that much importance to the form. The character's need to be represent not the forms.
I agree that this version of Gohan is correct in being shown as SSJ2, I just think there's better Gohan's to be in the game than this iteration, for the reasons I mentioned before.

Kid Gohan would be the only saiyan that can't turn ssj in the game so majority would not want to play as him and instead go for goku vegeta, and trunks and the reason they picked his ssj2 for is that he can match with the promotion with Goku, vegeta and trunks and thats incarnation of him that is more popular and achieved the greatest thing any form of Gohan has done in the series defeating a main villian (Cell) something kid Gohan has not done that is the simple answer though I respect your opinion

[Nickolaidas]

Just because it's the most popular version doesn't mean it's the best for the game, the fact there's a limited number of slots makes the issue even more relevant.

Kid Gohan was used in Budokai 1, 2, 3.

SSJ2 Gohan was used in Butoden 2, Buu Yu Retsuden, Ultimate Battle 22, Shin Butoden, Budokai 1, 2, 3, and Extreme Butoden.

Adult Gohan was used in Butoden 3 and Budokai 1, 2, 3.

Ultimate Adult Gohan was used in Hyper Dimension, Budokai 2, 3 and Extreme Butoden.

SSJ2 Gohan is the form of Gohan mostly used in DB fighting video games.

[NintendoBlaze53]

In terms of game mechanics I can't see how Ultimate Gohan could stand out, he'd be the all arounder and we already have Goku for that. SSj2 Gohan (Youth) allows moves and attacks to be pulled from the first 3 arcs which many analysis videos have showed a fair few of his moves are from the Freeza Arc. His small stature makes him a more unique character too with a focus on keeping his hitbox out of reach, not to mention I love playing smaller stature characters in fighting game due to how crafting you can be with them. With the confirmed 4 Saiyans we have so far, an all around beater, an all around energy attacker, a fast but super powerful small character and a long range technique character. What could Ultimate Gohan bring to the roster that these 4 don't?

[ssjprodigy]

In terms of game mechanics I can't see how Ultimate Gohan could stand out, he'd be the all arounder and we already have Goku for that. SSj2 Gohan (Youth) allows moves and attacks to be pulled from the first 3 arcs which many analysis videos have showed a fair few of his moves are from the Freeza Arc. His small stature makes him a more unique character too with a focus on keeping his hitbox out of reach, not to mention I love playing smaller stature characters in fighting game due to how crafting you can be with them. With the confirmed 4 Saiyans we have so far, an all around beater, an all around energy attacker, a fast but super powerful small character and a long range technique character. What could Ultimate Gohan bring to the roster that these 4 don't?

The best thing to do now is wait and see I am sure they will find a way to make him different look at SSB Goku they say he will be different from SSJ Goku but we will have to see

[Nickolaidas]

What could Ultimate Gohan bring to the roster that these 4 don't?

... fanservice, maybe?

In all seriousness though, if they want to make him different, they'll make him different.

[EXBadguy]

They can have Ultimate Gohan be a fighter who has counter special moves, similar to Hakumen from Blazblue or Baiken from Guilty Gear, and because he countered a lot of moves during the whole saga. He could have his fighting animations from all his fights in the Buu saga while having his melee-counter special moves that were used on Buu. For his ultimate attack, I'd say he could either have his Burst Rush or that Kamehameha he did to Buu's egg (example)

[NintendoBlaze53]

They can have Ultimate Gohan be a fighter who has counter special moves, similar to Hakumen from Blazblue or Baiken from Guilty Gear, and because he countered a lot of moves during the whole saga. He could have his fighting animations from all his fights in the Buu saga while having his melee-counter special moves that were used on Buu. For his ultimate attack, I'd say he could either have his Burst Rush or that Kamehameha he did to Buu's egg (example)

And just like that you made me want him. I love using counters in Smash Bros. and it would compliment Gohan's nature of never just ending a fight if his playstyle was all tactics to make the fights longer. He'd be a very dynamic character with some interesting competitive uses. Bravo for the good idea.

[KayDash]

Although, I'm not a huge fan of Ultimate Gohan, but I think it's possible to make him unique, or at least different from teen Gohan. First of all he is much taller, with longer legs and arms. That alone would make him feel different as a character, but he could also have a Masenko (which Teen Gohan don't), some super attack where he transforms into the Great Saiyaman for a beatdown, and other melee techniques based on his fight with Super Buu.