The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

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The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by superfan2024 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:38 pm

We've gotten through 3 main arcs so far (5 if you count the BoG and Ro'F' arcs), and there has been much speculation about what will happen after this main arc finishes. We know that up next is the EoZ story, so what will happen next? Will we get a new series, will we explore the remaning four universes in the next arc? What do you guys think? As a request, this thread should close once we finally get a definate answer about what comes next of DBS.

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by precita » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:43 pm

I think they're clearly moving into EOZ and will set up the young characters as the new main heroes.

Trunks, Goten, Uub, Pan, (and maybe Marron and Bra), will likely be pushed into the forefront of the next arc. Hopefully Gohan will remain relevant since he's part of the new generation too and can help train the younger heroes. Toei clearly likes Pan and wants to do something with her again, and they referenced Uub in Super already. Trunks will be back in his popular adult design and Toei loves to market that as seen by Trunks in GT or Future Trunks return in Super. Plus Goten will be his own character and not a little Goku clone.

It's time for the younger generation to take center stage. Goku and Vegeta should retire to the bahamas!

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Basako » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:39 pm

I hope Toriyama keeps providing the barebones. The main character should be Oob, that's what the EoZ was about, Goku passing the torch to a new hero.

Of course, Trunks and Goten and the saiyan girls would be great too and maybe Marron. Cameos of the old cast sometimes and new adventures, major villains and tournaments.

Goku and Vegeta, no. When they are around, all the rest are useless. Let them go to become GoD or something like that.
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by emperior » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:44 pm

First of all, I really hope Toriyama will keep writing the outline at least until Goku's story is over.
I think that after this arc Super will continue to be in the 10 years gap. Goku still has to meet the strongest mortal, and Vegeta has to visit Sadal. There's still much more to be done with Freeza, and it really feels like the story will go on for a very long time because Goku still has to surpass Beerus, the Hakaishin stronger than Beerus, the strongest mortal, Whis, eventually an angel stronger than Whis, and in the end Daishinkan.
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:08 pm

I think the next arc will be a villain arc, after that we'll get another tournament between u7 and the remaining 4 universes and finally we'll get EOZ. Weather Toriyama goes beyond that remains to be seen. In terms of the episodes, I think we'll more than likely go beyond 200 with Super before it ends.
Basako wrote:The main character should be Oob. Goku and Vegeta, no.
precita wrote:It's time for the younger generation to take center stage. Goku and Vegeta should retire.
In other words you want them to kill the franchise again. Thankfully something like that will NEVER happen.
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Post by Nickolaidas » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:13 pm

precita wrote:I think they're clearly moving into EOZ and will set up the young characters as the new main heroes.

Trunks, Goten, Uub, Pan, (and maybe Marron and Bra), will likely be pushed into the forefront of the next arc. Hopefully Gohan will remain relevant since he's part of the new generation too and can help train the younger heroes. Toei clearly likes Pan and wants to do something with her again, and they referenced Uub in Super already. Trunks will be back in his popular adult design and Toei loves to market that as seen by Trunks in GT or Future Trunks return in Super. Plus Goten will be his own character and not a little Goku clone.

It's time for the younger generation to take center stage. Goku and Vegeta should retire to the bahamas!
Umm ... the kids literally got benched for an entire arc. Sure, when I look at Frieza I understand that ANYTHING can happen, but I don't see the younger generation getting any real, actual focus. The Goku/Vegeta love will go on forever, that much is clear by now.

And when you piss on the majority of your cast for the sake of one-two characters, passing the torch has proven to be a move the show abhors. *coughcoughGohancoughcough*

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Basako » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:41 pm

sintzu wrote:I think the next arc will be a villain arc, after that we'll get another tournament between u7 and the remaining 4 universes and finally we'll get EOZ. Weather Toriyama goes beyond that remains to be seen. In terms of the episodes, I think we'll more than likely go beyond 200 with Super before it ends.
Basako wrote:The main character should be Oob. Goku and Vegeta, no.
precita wrote:It's time for the younger generation to take center stage. Goku and Vegeta should retire.
In other words you want them to kill the franchise again. Thankfully something like that will NEVER happen.
You say it like they tryed this before, but remember they kept Goku as main character in GT.

They should go for it, it can be done fine.
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Li'l Lemmy » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:46 pm

sintzu wrote:I think the next arc will be a villain arc, after that we'll get another tournament between u7 and the remaining 4 universes and finally we'll get EOZ. Weather Toriyama goes beyond that remains to be seen. In terms of the episodes, I think we'll more than likely go beyond 200 with Super before it ends.
Basako wrote:The main character should be Oob. Goku and Vegeta, no.
precita wrote:It's time for the younger generation to take center stage. Goku and Vegeta should retire.
In other words you want them to kill the franchise again. Thankfully something like that will NEVER happen.
How exactly did it "kill the franchise"? Toriyama ended the manga run because he was tired as shit, not because the new generation somehow failed creatively and doomed any future run.
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:49 pm

Basako wrote:You say it like they tryed this before, but remember they kept Goku as main character in GT.

They should go for it, it can be done fine.
They kept Goku because he's what makes DB what it it is. If you take Goku and to a lesser extent Vegeta out of the spotlight, it's not DB anymore. Goku is DB.
Li'l Lemmy wrote:How exactly did it "kill the franchise"?

Toriyama ended the manga run because he was tired as shit, not because the new generation somehow failed creatively and doomed any future run.
I meant it would if they tried it.

He tried it with Gohan and soon realized it wouldn't work which is why he brought Goku back in Buu (he said this himself).
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Li'l Lemmy » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:52 pm

sintzu wrote:
Basako wrote:You say it like they tryed this before, but remember they kept Goku as main character in GT.

They should go for it, it can be done fine.
They kept Goku because he's what makes DB what it it is. If you take Goku and to a lesser extent Vegeta out of the spotlight, it's not DB anymore. Goku is DB.
Li'l Lemmy wrote:How exactly did it "kill the franchise"?

Toriyama ended the manga run because he was tired as shit, not because the new generation somehow failed creatively and doomed any future run.
I meant it would if they tried it.

He tried it with Gohan and soon realized it wouldn't work which is why he brought Goku back in Buu (he said this himself).
Yes, of course he said that. And if we take what he says as truth, then I believe he also said that the rewritten manga ending was to stress that Goku's adventures were drawing to a close and that a new generation was indeed taking over.

I don't think it's entirely unrealistic to expect /some/ shift in focus, based on that. o_o
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by precita » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:25 pm

Guys you're missing the point here, Toei LOVES adult Trunks. Same reason they made Trunks a major character in GT and brought Future Trunks back in Super.

Once we're in EOZ Trunks is back in his adult form again. There's no way he, and by extent Goten, won't be treated as major characters if we skip ahead. And as I said, they would have to use Uub in some capacity and Toei also clearly likes Pan and wants to do something with her, so it's all very fitting. I just wonder if Marron or Bra will get treated any differently than they were in GT.

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Whatever » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:55 pm

precita wrote:Guys you're missing the point here, Toei LOVES adult Trunks. Same reason they made Trunks a major character in GT and brought Future Trunks back in Super.

Once we're in EOZ Trunks is back in his adult form again. There's no way he, and by extent Goten, won't be treated as major characters if we skip ahead. And as I said, they would have to use Uub in some capacity and Toei also clearly likes Pan and wants to do something with her, so it's all very fitting. I just wonder if Marron or Bra will get treated any differently than they were in GT.
Yes look how they treated adult Trunks in GT and Toei loves Future Trunks not Adult Trunks.
And no,next generation thing won't happen,you are just trying to pass off what you want to happen as something that you want to happen.

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by precita » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:59 pm

It doesn't matter that the two Trunks are different, it's still the same adult Trunks design they market.

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Kanious » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:43 pm

i don't know, but i hope that the EoZ will not be the true end of the anime franchise. I would be really pissed off.

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Ranmaru Rei » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:51 pm

I think, people just want Goku, no matter what. Even if it is illogical. Now Goku is putting all attention to himself, shadowing all other characters. Only Vegeta are still intact. Krillin, Tenshinhan and others is not singnificant. It was main issue since DBZ for me. But,I feel, community is OK with this.
Btw, IMHO, in the end of Cell arc passing the torch to Gohan was a mistake. But not because DB is Goku, because Gohan is not a fighter. It was stated in Cell arc itself. I realised it later. Before realisation, I thought that Goku's resurrection is just fan service.

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Yedis » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:43 pm

Basako wrote: The main character should be Oob, that's what the EoZ was about, Goku passing the torch to a new hero.

Shonen leads don't look like Oob, I doubt he will ever be a main character.
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by precita » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:44 pm

Yedis wrote:Shonen leads don't look like Oob, he will never be a main character.
Nobody said he's be the main character, just one of the main cast. A new cast of Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Uub, Pan and maybe Marron/Bra as supporting characters could easily be done.

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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:57 pm

I think after the Tournament is over, Beerus will go back to sleeping and awake up like 4 or 5 years later. I could another time skip happening.
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by TheOne » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:24 pm

While I don't think the people at Toei are very smart, I do think they're smart in some a aspects.

I think they're strategically saving Trunks and Goten for when Uub and company join the series. Anybody who thinks this is ridiculous is just ignorant. There's no way that Toei will completely ignore the offsprings of Goku and Vegeta without any potential purpose in the future.


If they do, this is officially the worst company around. But I highly doubt they're being ignored for no reason. Dragon ball fans just have no vision. They think episode to episode and not what the future entails. So I'm not surprised everyone thinks Goten and Trunks are just being "wasted".
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Re: The Future of Dragon Ball Super Thead

Post by sintzu » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:00 am

Li'l Lemmy wrote:I believe he also said that the rewritten manga ending was to stress that Goku's adventures were drawing to a close and that a new generation was indeed taking over.

I don't think it's entirely unrealistic to expect /some/ shift in focus, based on that. o_o
He did say that, he said it was to show that Goku's adventures were done.

Assuming Toriyama continues to work on it after EOZ. The most likely case will be Toei taking over (and continue with Goku like they did with GT) cause it seems like to Toriyama, EOZ is where Goku's story ends and I don't see him continuing with a completely new character.
TheOne wrote:I think they're strategically saving Trunks and Goten for when Uub and company join the series. Anybody who thinks this is ridiculous is just ignorant.
Of course that's possible, it's even very likely but there's no way they'll take over while Goku (and Vegeta) are sidelined.
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