"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Grimlock]

We're in late 781.

How? Bra has just been born.

[ArchedThunder]

We're in late 781.

How? Bra has just been born.

Whoops, late 780, my mistake.

[Yedis]

I'm very interested to see how the Super writers will address the 5 year thing. They must be aware of it by now.

They're going to retcon it or simply ignore it. The Super ending may not even address EOZ. They may decide to write up to that point and never go past it.

[precita]

I imagine Bulma will also keep her Super design, and maybe 18 too. Bulma looked like an old hag in EOZ....there is no way she'd age that badly in just 3-4 more years.

[Noah]

I'm very interested to see how the Super writers will address the 5 year thing. They must be aware of it by now.

Simple, ignore it.
I fully expect the end of Z to be reanimated and if they do so they can easily adjust anything they need to.

Personally I wouldn't care if they did that, this series as a whole don't affect the original work, so EoZ being adapted to Super storyline also wouldn't do any harm.

I imagine Bulma will also keep her Super design, and maybe 18 too. Bulma looked like an old hag in EOZ....there is no way she'd age that badly in just 3-4 more years.

The same could be said about Goten and Trunks, I guess. People may use the excuse of "growth spurt", but it wouldn't change the fact that they looked like toddlers before appearing like teenagers.

That's one of this show's problems: don't know how to age its characters,

[precita]

The last 3 episodes of DBZ will likely just be redone in Super's animation the same way they adapted the Beerus and Freeza movies.

[blackbewhite2k7]

Really glad they didn't relegate the fact Tien was the first and only person to sense more U4 fighters then everyone else say to a throwaway line.

[blackbewhite2k7]

Preecho was probably stronger than Tien to boot since he withstand the attack while Tien got knocked on his butt.

Roshi used that move in base form against the Preecho (who was completely subdued), but against Tien Roshi used it at 100% power with full intent to kill.

[Ki Breaker]

Ignoring the "fans" nonsense, this image puts into perspective why the new form will only look good on goku, Vegeta is literally the same.. as he always is.. just this time around there's not even a hair change to distinguish him..

[spoiler][/spoiler]

I suppose an eye change could work but it seems pretty mundane..

[Basako]

Ignoring the "fans" nonsense, this image puts into perspective why the new form will only look good on goku, Vegeta is literally the same.. as he always is.. just this time around there's not even a hair change to distinguish him..

[spoiler][/spoiler]

I suppose an eye change could work but it seems pretty mundane..

First, that fan art looks awful, it's like they put Vegeta's clothes and hair to LB Goku. They didn't use the lighter tones in the hair like Goku. And speculating, maybe some of Vegeta's bangs could change direction too.

[sintzu]

I would not watch a show about the "next gen".

No one would and if they did they'd drop it after a few episodes.

It seems weird to me that someone would not even try to give a show about the next generation a chance.

That's because it won't be DB anymore. I'm more than OK with them being important characters alongside established ones but not as the only main characters.

Another problem with a next gen show is that everything will have to be brought down to their level. Doing that could result in them making established characters like Goku seem weaker than he is like what happened in Boruto's first arc when Naruto and kakashi showed up.

[Ki Breaker]

Ignoring the "fans" nonsense, this image puts into perspective why the new form will only look good on goku, Vegeta is literally the same.. as he always is.. just this time around there's not even a hair change to distinguish him..

[spoiler][/spoiler]

I suppose an eye change could work but it seems pretty mundane..

First, that fan art looks awful, it's like they put Vegeta's clothes and hair to LB Goku. They didn't use the lighter tones in the hair like Goku. And speculating, maybe some of Vegeta's bangs could change direction too.

Well yeah, you gotta see where it comes from.. can't expect top quality..
It's simply provided to give a visual assist for the discussion..
For the second point, might be, but there's not much you can do with Vegeta's hairstyle in this case and make it look good..
One wrong step with the bangs changing direction and it would look like Vegeta has horns..

[Basako]

I would not watch a show about the "next gen".

No one would and if they did they'd drop it after a few episodes.

It seems weird to me that someone would not even try to give a show about the next generation a chance.

That's because it won't be DB anymore. I'm more than OK with them being important characters alongside established ones but not as the only main characters.

Another problem with a next gen show is that everything will have to be brought down to their level. Doing that could result in them making established characters like Goku seem weaker than he is like what happened in Boruto's first arc when Naruto and kakashi showed up.

I would watch it.

I know DB has been always dependant of Goku, but I feel Super has already streeched him to the limit, along with Vegeta.

Gohan could have continued as main if Toriyama wanted to. It was done him defeating Cell and he was doing fine when the Boo arc started, but I think Toriyama thought DB wasn't done with Goku and he brought him again, which I think it was the right call back then. But I don't think we are in the same case after Super and the EoZ.

And I don't know what more mistakes they made in Boruto, but DB doesn't have to do the same ones. For example, grown Naruto sucks. Man, from being a funny and cool guy, he became a boring and disgusting man and a horrible father. And don't tell me it's that he grew up, I know that. Goku grew too and he was still himself and cool.

They just would need to take Goku and Vegeta out of the picture and there is no need lower down anything else. How? Well, that's what writing is about, it can be done.

[precita]

A next generation cast is likely especially if it's rebranded a new series after episode 133. Plus characters like Trunks/Goten, Pan, Uub, etc. are already established and it's not like we're going to watch new unknown characters we've never seen before.

After Goku and Vegeta retire to the bahamas it would be nice to see the next generation step into the fold.

[TekTheNinja]

A next generation story would be fantastic. It's so strange that people are so willing to disregard the idea so instantly.

[Kanassa]

No preview pictures yet?

[Ki Breaker]

Dragonball works because of Goku and his ultra drive to get stronger all the time, that's all he ever thinks about..
There are two people in the current cast who can be like that, uub, who dosen't have the design or personality ( the little we see if him ) to be that, the only thing he might come to posses is the drive to get stonger..
Second is pan, she can be molded into a Goku just fine, but all that would do is accomplish retiring an already built up Goku for a female clone of Goku..

Dragonball is "Goku's adventures" and it's world moves forward because of that..

Boruto is the best example I can give here, if you think Boruto is great then this story might be for you, on the other hand if you see it as simply being a huge waste of time and them milking the franchise to death, it's best if you stay away from it..

Toriyama isn't writing everything anymore, it's impossible to build the characters with good likeable personality to continue dragonball the way things are now, they even managed to screw things up with already built and present characters in super.. So much so that there are threads popping up on how unlikable Goku is becoming..
All in all, I can't see a generation story being anything other than a mega disaster and something which will never come see the light..

[Michsi]

A next generation story would be fantastic. It's so strange that people are so willing to disregard the idea so instantly.

People are just very attached to the established cast. A new gen just means "hey, it's time to let go of these characters you've know and loved for years and years, and replace them with new ones you have no attachment to whatsoever" Now, it's not impossible for a next generation story to be successful, but the it will have pretty huge shoes to fill and you run the risk of these new main characters constantly being compared to the original ones. Isn't that what's happening with Boruto right now? Not to mention that they already tried it once, in the manga's original run. They tried it with Gohan, with Goten and Trunks, then with Gohan again. In the end, Goku still was still the one given the final battle.

For the record, I'm not against it, just that stepping out of the old cast's shadow will be a challenge.

[sintzu]

From being a funny and cool guy, he became a boring and disgusting man and a horrible father.

They just would need to take Goku and Vegeta out of the picture and there is no need lower down anything else. How? Well, that's what writing is about, it can be done.

I think you're mistaking him for Super's Goku.

So they're going to have Uub fighting Beerus out of the gate ? They're going to give Goten and Trunks SsjB ?

A next generation cast is likely.

It's as likely as that fat thing from U2 knocking Vegeta out of the tournament.

[SuperHumanGod]

What do you guys think of Goku's new form being the animes version of taking the power of blue/kkblue/ssg etc into yourself? Or at least based on that idea.