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Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" (PS4/XBO/PC, 2018, Arc System Works) Official Discussion Thread

Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:03 am

Noah wrote:Other complaint that I have with this game is that the alt. colors are just awful:

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While those examples are bad, overall I disagree. I love Trunks with a red coat (AKA Dante Trunks), Christmas colors Piccolo, black suit Vegeta, white gi Gohan, manga colors Goku.
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Post by Ranmaru Rei » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:13 am

Some leak was posted on Shoryuken: http://shoryuken.com/2017/08/29/possibl ... haracters/
It seems to be the trend that any major fighting game in development these days finds itself the subject of leaks. Such is now the case with Dragon Ball FighterZ, with a interesting leak regarding unlockable characters.

The leak, originally posted anonymously on 4Chan and later shared on the Shoryuken forums, supposedly comes from a GameStop employee who was at the GameStop Expo this past weekend. The leak details the final roster count of the game, as well as the presence of unlockable characters.

If the leak is to be believed, Dragon Ball FighterZ will launch with 27 characters. Of these, four will be unlockable, two of which are the already revealed Super Saiyan Blue versions of Goku and Vegeta. Interestingly enough, both of these will not take up a slot on the select screen, rather they can be picked by highlighting Goku and Vegeta and hitting a button to switch to their Super Saiyan Blue forms. The same goes for the 3rd unlockable character, Android 17, who is selectable by doing the same on Android 18’s slot. Interestingly enough, these characters supposedly work like the EX characters in The King of Fighters games, where you cannot select them alongside their regular versions for the same team.

More interesting, however, is the supposed fourth unlockable character — Towa, the sister of Demon King Dabura, from Dragon Ball Online and the Dragon Ball Xenoverse games. The leak claims that Towa is accompanied by her husband Mira, and acts as the game’s final boss.

Finally, the leak claims that they were given word of a “Saiyan Season Pass” for the game, that will include 2 DLC characters to be announced at a later date.

Of course, since this is basically a rumor, we suggest taking all of this with a massive grain of salt. We’ll learn if this is legitimate or not in the months leading up to Dragon Ball FighterZ‘s release in February of 2018.
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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:20 am

If its true, Slaythe will be happy.
Also, I would not be surprised if Towa and Mira are in the game, since Bandai Namco have been adding them to recent Dragon Ball games as of late and probably suggested to ASW to add them in.
I'm also confident if Broly is not on the main roster, he will be in the "Saiyan Season Pass."
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Post by LightBing » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:51 am

Wasn't it said #16 was the villain?

Having Towa and Mira as bosses is also contradictory to Arc System strategy, appeal to a large audience including casual fans. Casual fans don't have the minimal idea who these characters are, I'm an hardcore fan and I know very little about them.

Fighting games players who don't follow Dragon Ball but must have had contact with the show either as kids or later. This potential audience will look at Towa and Mira and scratch their heads.

I don't buy this rumour, seems false. Although I wouldn't mind if the 27 characters bit turned out to be true.

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Post by Ranmaru Rei » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:10 am

If Mira and Towa is in the game, they are main villains, they can be introduced through story mode. I don't rememeber much how much time was GGXRd story mode. Something around 7-8 hrs, I believe. i remind that GGXrd story mode is kinda anime series on engine of the game.
But, yeah, this leak looks false.

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Post by KayDash » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:51 am

27 characters judging from the time left until the release, and from the pace they reveal new characters seems something like, that could happen. Android #17 with #18 (with switching places) is also something that could happen, because it's a new character made with saving resources.
Towa appeared at least in seven DBZ games before in some form, so she also wouldn't be suprising, and well... the game has characters from different eras, so she could connect the storyline this way.
I have my doubts, but that leak has nothing unrealistic in it...

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Post by MaskedRider » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:02 am

"The leak, originally posted anonymously on 4Chan "
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Post by KayDash » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:21 pm

MaskedRider wrote:"The leak, originally posted anonymously on 4Chan "
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Just don't forget, that's also how the Street Fighter V season 2 leak happened, via an anonymous post. It contained info about the brand new characters, even with their names. It didn't looked real, but now after several months passed it all turned out to be true.
Is the same applies to this leak? We don't know.

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Post by Ranmaru Rei » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:01 pm

Speaking of Mira and Towa and Demon World, I wanna see them in canon. But it is too late, IMHO. It should kinda inbetween Buu Saga and Battle of Gods.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:57 pm

27 characters are more than enough to me. I would love this rumour to be true. I like everything.
Ranmaru Rei wrote:Speaking of Mira and Towa and Demon World, I wanna see them in canon. But it is too late, IMHO. It should kinda inbetween Buu Saga and Battle of Gods.
They came from DB Online, which was surpervised by Toriyama and most of DB Online stuff I want it in the the main show, sooner of later. It's not too late, especially when we're already dealing with Gods and Angels. Demons could be just around the corner.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:00 pm

KayDash wrote: Towa appeared at least in seven DBZ games before in some form.
Seven?? I can think of only 4. Xenoverse 1, Xenoverse 2, Heroes and of course DB Online

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Post by Kanassa » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:18 pm

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KayDash wrote: Towa appeared at least in seven DBZ games before in some form.
Seven?? I can think of only 4. Xenoverse 1, Xenoverse 2, Heroes and of course DB Online
Fusions, Dokkan Battle and according to the internet Extreme Butoden had Mira in as an assist character who could only be used via cheats.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Ranmaru Rei » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:13 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:They came from DB Online, which was surpervised by Toriyama and most of DB Online stuff I want it in the the main show, sooner of later. It's not too late, especially when we're already dealing with Gods and Angels. Demons could be just around the corner.
The problem of that Mira and Towa and the Demon Realm is that it is a problem of Universe 7. It placed here and it was explained in DBZ that each universe have their own Demon Realm. At least, as I understand it. The current plot of DBS, I believe, is not around Universe 7, but whole multiverse. It is on absolutely another level.
Speaking of the game, Mira and Towa would be OK for DBDZ, I believe. If they will be well introduced in story, it does not cause problems to fans that know only... hmm... official material.
Speaking of inclusion Mira and Towa into canon, I see 3 possibilities.
1. Demons from Demon Realm appear in DBS, but for some reason Beerus and Whis cannot participate, and help of Zen'Oh is banned. I think it is possible.
2. Entire new series, that set after Buu Saga, but before DBS. Or even DBS is not canon for this series. Just how DBGT is not canon to DBGT. Idk. Different multiverses, lol. This series can even connect DBS and DBGT, because as it was been explained DBGT is just another multiverse that hanen't events of DBS.
3. Demons from Universe 7 are really a threat to multiverse. Or some retcon about Demon Realm.But ot will be ende by erasing of Universe 7 by Zen'Oh, lol.

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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:41 pm

That leak sounds promising, making 17 a EX/Shadow slot for 18 is a damn good idea. If Saiyan Season Pass means what the name says and there are 2 DLC characters, I can think of two certain Saiyans who many people have been speculating to be potential DLC. I really do like the sound of 27 characters, 24 if we don't count SSB Goku, Vegeta and 17. That means an additional 13 characters are yet to be announced. Honestly I hope the leak is true. Towa in a 2D fighter would be interesting too. Perhaps she'll play like Dr. Fate in Injustice 2....
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Post by Noah » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:55 pm

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:
Noah wrote:Other complaint that I have with this game is that the alt. colors are just awful:

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While those examples are bad, overall I disagree. I love Trunks with a red coat (AKA Dante Trunks), Christmas colors Piccolo, black suit Vegeta, white gi Gohan, manga colors Goku.
Sorry, but I still think those were awful, I mean what's the deal with the colors when they can have characters with their different
outfits?

And pardon, but red coat Trunks and manga colors Goku? :eh:
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Post by Ranmaru Rei » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:57 pm

It may be meaningless remark, but…
I've played a lot of fighting games. I feel that cotrol-wise and even gameplay-wise the game is less ArcSys title. It plays less like Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Persona 4 Arena. It plays more like Examu title. Such games as Arcana Heart, Nitroplus Basterz, Daemon Bride.
Noah wrote:Sorry, but I still think those were awful, I mean what's the deal with the colors when they can have characters with their different
outfits?
Yeah, it is really pity that Guilty Gear engine does not allow alternate costumes. But, damn, Sol Badguy can go Dragon Install, it is a powerup, that uses another model for all of Sol's moves. And also, the game has some easter eggs, such as dissapearing corset on Dizzy after one of her moves. OK, easter eggs are so simple. But Dragon Install is not. So, WTF?
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Post by Noah » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:17 pm

Ranmaru Rei wrote:Yeah, it is really pity that Guilty Gear engine does not allow alternate costumes...
Oh so that's is something with their engine? Is not like they are being uninspired? :?
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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:20 pm

Noah wrote:
NintendoBlaze53 wrote:
Noah wrote:Other complaint that I have with this game is that the alt. colors are just awful:

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While those examples are bad, overall I disagree. I love Trunks with a red coat (AKA Dante Trunks), Christmas colors Piccolo, black suit Vegeta, white gi Gohan, manga colors Goku.
Sorry, but I still think those were awful, I mean what's the deal with the colors when they can have characters with their different
outfits?

And pardon, but red coat Trunks and manga colors Goku? :eh:
It's been said before why there isn't alternative costumes, because this game is emulating sprite based animation using 3D models, and to make alternative costumes would mean recreating every single animation for that model, which is time better spent on new characters. Also as someone who prefers their fighting games to be sprite based I commend ArcSys for that. And yes there is a red coat trunks and light orange gi Goku, so far every character revealed has their default colours and 3 alternative colours. Every ArcSys game I've played has had alternative colours. Persona 4 Ultimax had 14 Alternative colours and an additional 18 DLC colours for each character, some where really cool like black and white colour schemes and increased shading colour schemes. A lot of the colour schemes were references to other Persona characters too, which FighterZ will definetly do as we've already seen Vegeta clothes with a similar colour scheme to his Ressurection F outfit and a Kuririn with a similar gi colour to the red he had as a child. This is how ArcSys games have always been, this is more an ArcSys game then a DBZ game.
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Post by Noah » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:29 pm

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:It's been said before why there isn't alternative costumes, because this game is emulating sprite based animation using 3D models, and to make alternative costumes would mean recreating every single animation for that model, which is time better spent on new characters.
Oh, I get it now. Thanks for clearing this up, but anyway even with the fact they can't do alternate costumes, I still the colors used for alts. could be more varied.
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Post by Grimlock » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:33 pm

Ranmaru Rei wrote:Speaking of Mira and Towa and Demon World, I wanna see them in canon. But it is too late, IMHO. It should kinda inbetween Buu Saga and Battle of Gods.
Why is it too late?

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