What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

[HybridSaiyan]

Tien feels like a different character from Z. His pose is off, his fighting style sorta reverted back to his OG Dragon Ball ways (Which is cool, I guess.) But no positive outcome and the artstyle of him looks like he's been nerfed. Not one piece of hand to hand combat either? Another disappointment to the endless list of missed opportunities.

Tien had much more to offer, It's a shame really.

[Lord Beerus]

Tien feels like a different character from Z. His pose is off, his fighting style sorta reverted back to his OG Dragon Ball ways (Which is cool, I guess.) But no positive outcome and the artstyle of him looks like he's been nerfed. Not one piece of hand to hand combat either? Another disappointment to the endless list of missed opportunities.

Tien had much more to offer, It's a shame really.

Um... what?

[Tombstone1988]

Tien feels like a different character from Z. His pose is off, his fighting style sorta reverted back to his OG Dragon Ball ways (Which is cool, I guess.) But no positive outcome and the artstyle of him looks like he's been nerfed. Not one piece of hand to hand combat either? Another disappointment to the endless list of missed opportunities.

Tien had much more to offer, It's a shame really.

Um... what?

If I had to guess, I'd assume he's referring to how Tien in DBZ looked like a man on massive amounts of steroids whereas in Super he looks much leaner.

[Jigurashi]

I never expected much from him because episodes 83, 89, and 90 gave me all the indication I needed to know that the writers don't really give a single fuck about him. He did about as well as I expected. If you isolate episode 106, yeah his performance was ok (except for the ending where it negates his decent performance and it becomes a mediocre send-off for a mediocre character), but overall he was pretty underwhelming this saga.

[precita]

It honestly feels like Tien was only included in this to fill the 10 man quota, because they didn't want to use Buu for some reason.

[Lord Beerus]

Tien feels like a different character from Z. His pose is off, his fighting style sorta reverted back to his OG Dragon Ball ways (Which is cool, I guess.) But no positive outcome and the artstyle of him looks like he's been nerfed. Not one piece of hand to hand combat either? Another disappointment to the endless list of missed opportunities.

Tien had much more to offer, It's a shame really.

Um... what?

If I had to guess, I'd assume he's referring to how Tien in DBZ looked like a man on massive amounts of steroids whereas in Super he looks much leaner.

Ah. I see. Well, that's just how Toriyama designs characters these days.

[precita]

Well Tien at least blasted one guy off with Roshi and took another guy down with him. I was actually worried he wouldn't get any win at all. And prior to this we saw Tien fight Freeza's soldiers in Return of F.

They haven't given him the Yamcha treatment where he's not allowed to fight at all, so at least you Tien fans have that. If we ever get to see Yamcha in a real fight again it'll be a miracle.

[Lord Beerus]

They haven't given him the Yamcha treatment where he's not allowed to fight at all, so at least you Tien fans have that. If we ever get to see Yamcha in a real fight again it'll be a miracle.

Under Toriyama's reign, Yamcha will never fight again. Toriyama has made it very clear that he does not care for the character at all.

[Jigurashi]

Well Tien at least blasted one guy off with Roshi and took another guy down with him. I was actually worried he wouldn't get any win at all. And prior to this we saw Tien fight Freeza's soldiers in Return of F.

They haven't given him the Yamcha treatment where he's not allowed to fight at all, so at least you Tien fans have that. If we ever get to see Yamcha in a real fight again it'll be a miracle.

I'd argue he is given the Yamcha treatment. Yamcha is given the Chaouzu treatment nowadays where everyone seems to forget he exists. Since that's the case, someone has to fill Yamcha's old spot and so Tenshinhan became the sacrificial lamb.

[Hawk9211]

I just wonder what will Julian say?

[MKCSTEALTH]

I did enjoy his time to shine this past week. The multi form technique was really cool to see, and I felt he held his own and went out honorably. It's a shame he never reached the heights of badassery he reached during the Android saga against Semi Perfect Cell

[Basako]

I did enjoy his time to shine this past week. The multi form technique was really cool to see, and I felt he held his own and went out honorably. It's a shame he never reached the heights of badassery he reached during the Android saga against Semi Perfect Cell

What he did in the episode was fine, using the clones to sacrifice three of them and get to the sniper. Cool enough, but to be his moment, the only one, it looks not really like an actual fight to me.

Also, Hermila was in the border more than him and Tenshinhan was standing up. Can anyone explain me how Tenshinhan went down and Hermila didn't?

It has also been said, but did he really need to take all his clones down? Even one? What about a Kikoho from behind? The more I think it, the more feel he should have had just took Hermila out and be eliminated by other guy.

[TekTheNinja]

And with this I give up hope of any form of relevancy for my favorite characters, the human trio. Krillin's out first. Tenshinhan's out second, and Yamcha didn't even get a chance to participate, nor did Gohan or any of the people he discussed it with offer to have him enter. Fuck it. Well at least Roshi had a good episode. DBS always raises my hopes by putting characters into a major arc lineup and then throwing them away almost immediately. I'd be happier if they just didn't raise my hopes at all. Why do they have to tease? Why can't they just completely throw the old cast away if they don't wanna use them at all? It's garbage, Super is garbage, and I'm pissed.

Tangent over. -_-

[Akyon]

And with this I give up hope of any form of relevancy for my favorite characters, the human trio. Krillin's out first. Tenshinhan's out second, and Yamcha didn't even get a chance to participate, nor did Gohan or any of the people he discussed it with offer to have him enter. Fuck it. Well at least Roshi had a good episode. DBS always raises my hopes by putting characters into a major arc lineup and then throwing them away almost immediately. I'd be happier if they just didn't raise my hopes at all. Why do they have to tease? Why can't they just completely throw the old cast away if they don't wanna use them at all? It's garbage, Super is garbage, and I'm pissed.

Tangent over. -_-

I can sympathise Tek, but Krillin at least has had some really nice focus episodes, and his performance, whilst short was at least decent enough to showcase a little creativity(his and 18's combo move, using a ki blast to propell himself...I guess the shoe, but that was a bit weird even by Dragonball standards).

In the case of Yamcha(who is my second favourite) his baseball episode is still one of my absolute favourites. Even though he's used for comedy for the second half they treated his skills as a pitcher pretty well. And he technically saves the day. The rumours that there's a chance of a Yamcha (and Chiaoutzu) saving the Earth episode whilst everyone's away excites me more than the ToP at this point.

Tien...well, the dojo's a good idea but him sharing his only headlining episode with Roshi or his tournament of power focus episode with Gohan, Piccolo, Goku AND Vegeta being as prominent as he was is probably a good indicator that the writers aren't sure what to do with him.

[TekTheNinja]

And with this I give up hope of any form of relevancy for my favorite characters, the human trio. Krillin's out first. Tenshinhan's out second, and Yamcha didn't even get a chance to participate, nor did Gohan or any of the people he discussed it with offer to have him enter. Fuck it. Well at least Roshi had a good episode. DBS always raises my hopes by putting characters into a major arc lineup and then throwing them away almost immediately. I'd be happier if they just didn't raise my hopes at all. Why do they have to tease? Why can't they just completely throw the old cast away if they don't wanna use them at all? It's garbage, Super is garbage, and I'm pissed.

Tangent over. -_-

I can sympathise Tek, but Krillin at least has had some really nice focus episodes, and his performance, whilst short was at least decent enough to showcase a little creativity(his and 18's combo move, using a ki blast to propell himself...I guess the shoe, but that was a bit weird even by Dragonball standards).

In the case of Yamcha(who is my second favourite) his baseball episode is still one of my absolute favourites. Even though he's used for comedy for the second half they treated his skills as a pitcher pretty well. And he technically saves the day. The rumours that there's a chance of a Yamcha (and Chiaoutzu) saving the Earth episode whilst everyone's away excites me more than the ToP at this point.

Tien...well, the dojo's a good idea but him sharing his only headlining episode with Roshi or his tournament of power focus episode with Gohan, Piccolo, Goku AND Vegeta being as prominent as he was is probably a good indicator that the writers aren't sure what to do with him.

Actually, I liked the shoe thing a lot. It was clever since Krillin was targeting a weakness of his blind opponent by using a smelly shoe. Honestly it's pretty crafty.

Yamcha is at least lived for being a joke now, yes. I guess that's better than being not loved at all, but I hate how he's even treated as a joke by his friends in-universe. Something about the "baseball is the one thing he's good at" line especially rubs me the wrong way.

And Tenshinhan... Well I just found this fantastic video a bit ago. If you don't have time to watch the whole thing, just skip to when he talks about the most recent episode and why it's BS and then proceeds to talk about how Tien's life was kinda a failure and such: https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_contin ... 2HNvl0e26I

[TheDevilsCorpse]

THIS IS HIS BIG MOMENT? COME ON!!

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[JazzMazz]

THIS IS HIS BIG MOMENT? COME ON!!

Can you still only type in all caps, or is this intentional?

[Lionel]

I would gladly offer up one of the stronger tier characters if it ensured a more substantive outing for Tenshinhan. The premise of this tournament was supposed to embellishing and brandishing the value of coordination and ability. Why can't these tenets work to allow someone like Tenshinhan or Krillin to outmanoeuvre more powerful fighters? Put someone like Caulifla in their crosshairs, aim a technique that's strong enough to overcome their disorientated defences (thanks to the Taiyoken) or bypasses power levels, and then work to eliminate them from the playing field. It's not that a difficult a concept. I think such a scenario would have been far more rewarding. Plus, it would have helped to validate their enrollment as their abilities served to eliminate someone far superior to themselves that can pose a moderate threat to the stronger members of their team.

[HeroR]

THIS IS HIS BIG MOMENT? COME ON!!

Can you still only type in all caps, or is this intentional?

Their keyboard is broken, apparently.

I would gladly offer up one of the stronger tier characters if it ensured a more substantive outing for Tenshinhan. The premise of this tournament was supposed to embellishing and brandishing the value of coordination and ability. Why can't these tenets work to allow someone like Tenshinhan or Krillin to outmanoeuvre more powerful fighters? Put someone like Caulifla in their crosshairs, aim a technique that's strong enough to overcome their disorientated defences (thanks to the Taiyoken) or bypasses power levels, and then work to eliminate them from the playing field. It's not that a difficult a concept. I think such a scenario would have been far more rewarding. Plus, it would have helped to validate their enrollment as their abilities served to eliminate someone far superior to themselves that can pose a moderate threat to the stronger members of their team.

Krillin did used his skills to eliminate a superior opponent that not even 18 could handle. Also, Super also made it a point that at a certain point, no amount of skill will save you from a powerful opponent. That is why Goku went Blue to prove his point to Krillin.

[Zamasu55]

It honestly feels like Tien was only included in this to fill the 10 man quota, because they didn't want to use Buu for some reason.

They can't handle him, simply. He's too OP.