"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[SansrivaaL]

If thats true then I for one am glad Roshi aint done just yet.

[namekiansaiyan]

If thats true then I for one am glad Roshi aint done just yet.

The question is how do Roshi, Vegeta, Magetta and Frost all manage to stay in?

[CJStriker_CBR]

Not really a fan of Gohan being smacked around by another nobody. Why can't it be from someone we actually know like Hit, Dyspo, or just someone we actually have some background of instead of just some person we don't know. Hopefully it's not in Ultimate state at the very least.

How does Jimeze equal a nobody, this whole ToP is about a bunch of new fights that are mostly somebodies in their Universes meeting each other for the 1st time. Just cause WE don't known them does not come close to equaling a nobody.

At one point Hit was someone we did not known, but I don't many though he equaled to a nobody either.

It will be up to Toei if Jimeze is a Bad-A$$ or not but by the Spoilers;

He sounds Pretty BAD-A$$!

[Kanassa]

Toryiama is really going senile and forcing theme senility can be superrior or beat youth... t

Can people stop with this bullshit of saying Toriyama is senile (Keep it classy, guys!) because he takes story direction they don't like?

[ssbgoku]

Toryiama is really getting in old age which seems it greatly influences his manga/plot.

Can people stop with this bullshit of saying Toriyama is senile (Keep it classy, guys!) because he takes story direction they don't like?

why ? it isn't just coincidence that he decided to take another story direction just recently when he also got much older so he can see the world and everything from different perspective then back when he was young. It is just natural, there is no need to deny it. If by some point it doesn't influence him that much then he is really making everything awkard with how coincident it looks like

[LightBing]

Toryiama is really going senile and forcing theme senility can be superrior or beat youth... t

Can people stop with this bullshit of saying Toriyama is senile (Keep it classy, guys!) because he takes story direction they don't like?

why ? it isn't just coincidence that he decided to take another story direction just recently when he also got much older so he can see the world and everything from different perspective then back when he was young. It is just natural, there is no need to deny it. If by some point it doesn't influence him that much then he is really making everythig awkard with how coincident it looks like

Don't you know what senile means? You are insulting him. From this post I think that maybe that isn't your intention but calling someone senile isn't OK.

Anyway, keeping Master Roshi relevant for a bit doesn't mean what you say it does. You are conjecturing a lot based on very little. Gohan also returned this arc, does this also means the same in the other direction?

[VegettoEX]

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[ssbgoku]

Can people stop with this bullshit of saying Toriyama is senile (Keep it classy, guys!) because he takes story direction they don't like?

why ? it isn't just coincidence that he decided to take another story direction just recently when he also got much older so he can see the world and everything from different perspective then back when he was young. It is just natural, there is no need to deny it. If by some point it doesn't influence him that much then he is really making everythig awkard with how coincident it looks like

Don't you know what senile means? You are insulting him. From this post I think that maybe that isn't your intention but calling someone senile isn't OK.

Anyway, keeping Master Roshi relevant for a bit doesn't mean what you say it does. You are conjecturing a lot based on very little. Gohan also returned this arc, does this also means the same in the other direction?

oh sorry then I didn't mean it as insult or reason to make laugh of him. I wanted only to say that I have heard quite a lot times rumor how that mangaka's age greatly influences how his story/plot is going. In this case I see it like that, but it doesn't mean I have to be right. However in most of rumors grain of truth can be found.

[LightBing]

oh sorry then I didn't mean it as insult or reason to make laugh of him. I wanted only to say that I have heard quite a lot times rumor how that mangaka's age greatly influences how his story/plot is going. In this case I see it like that, but it doesn't mean I have to be right. However in most of rumors grain of truth can be found.

Honest mistake, don't worry about it.

I now understand better what you mean by the age bit. People change with age, mangaka's are no exception. It's been many years, it's reasonable to think Mr.Toriyama changed his mind regarding some things. Thinking about it superficially, I don't think Super is that different from previous Dragon Ball.
Maybe there's something there if we dig a little deeper. Master Roshi return to prominence in my opinion ins't indicative of it.

[JazzMazz]

Just going to state this in advance, judging purely by the staff list, I think 108 might be kind of a dud. The script writer isn't really that great, and the animation will probably be similar to what we got back in episode 100.

I'm far more excited for the 107 and 109, they at least look to have some promise to them based on the staff list.

Episode 109 could be a bust tbh.

109
Writer- Hiroshi Yamaguchi
Director/storyboard- Karasawa Kazuya
Supervisor- Manabe + Ono

Yamaguchi is writing the episode, meaning more fake tension, Goku fighting Jiren in base despite overwhelming everyone.

Apparently the writer for the episode is some kind of big wig that worked on shows like NGE. Though his previous episodes have been unimpressive, I really hope he delivers as much as his impressive resume for the special.

[precita]

Why are people surprised Roshi is still in the tournament? The ending implies he'll be the 4th to last eliminated. He's going to outlast everyone but Freeza and Goku/Gohan.

[dbzfan7]

Not really a fan of Gohan being smacked around by another nobody. Why can't it be from someone we actually know like Hit, Dyspo, or just someone we actually have some background of instead of just some person we don't know. Hopefully it's not in Ultimate state at the very least.

How does Jimeze equal a nobody, this whole ToP is about a bunch of new fights that are mostly somebodies in their Universes meeting each other for the 1st time. Just cause WE don't known them does not come close to equaling a nobody.

At one point Hit was someone we did not known, but I don't many though he equaled to a nobody either.

It will be up to Toei if Jimeze is a Bad-A$$ or not but by the Spoilers;

He sounds Pretty BAD-A$$!

He's a total nobody. Ribriane is the one who is a somebody of that universe despite me not really liking her. Hit was always the hyped up big guy of U6 even from the beginning. He's the same as that other guy who is treated as a big deal of Universe 10, despite them being portrayed as gags more than serious fighters. He's a nobody because he's had no real hype to him. His biggest contribution has been helping his friends escape....that's it. That's not really someone who seems to show, yeah I am quite the secret badass. Though I've yet to see if this is a base or Ultimate level fight. Especially when Toshio personally puts Gohan and 17 on the same tier, and 17 was beating the ace of Universe 2 without really being in that much of a pickle. He's pretty much likely going to be the next guy Gohan eliminates as he's someone with absolutely no build up to him, making him merely an obstacle and nothing else.

Outside of Goku and Vegeta, I can't really think of anyone who's actually eliminated a somebody. Someone who's had build up and is more than just an obstacle personified. Well Gohan did have Botamo so at least that's a win against somebody...even if it's done in such a really silly way when Vegeta had the right idea.

[namekiansaiyan]

Not really a fan of Gohan being smacked around by another nobody. Why can't it be from someone we actually know like Hit, Dyspo, or just someone we actually have some background of instead of just some person we don't know. Hopefully it's not in Ultimate state at the very least.

How does Jimeze equal a nobody, this whole ToP is about a bunch of new fights that are mostly somebodies in their Universes meeting each other for the 1st time. Just cause WE don't known them does not come close to equaling a nobody.

At one point Hit was someone we did not known, but I don't many though he equaled to a nobody either.

It will be up to Toei if Jimeze is a Bad-A$$ or not but by the Spoilers;

He sounds Pretty BAD-A$$!

He's a total nobody. Ribriane is the one who is a somebody of that universe despite me not really liking her. Hit was always the hyped up big guy of U6 even from the beginning. He's the same as that other guy who is treated as a big deal of Universe 10, despite them being portrayed as gags more than serious fighters. He's a nobody because he's had no real hype to him. His biggest contribution has been helping his friends escape....that's it. That's not really someone who seems to show, yeah I am quite the secret badass. Though I've yet to see if this is a base or Ultimate level fight. Especially when Toshio personally puts Gohan and 17 on the same tier, and 17 was beating the ace of Universe 2 without really being in that much of a pickle. He's pretty much likely going to be the next guy Gohan eliminates as he's someone with absolutely no build up to him, making him merely an obstacle and nothing else.

You have no idea how good the Yardratian is and just saying that he is useless because Ribrianne is the strongest makes no sense. Haven't you realised that this tournament is not just about power?

[Boo Machine]

With the upcoming episodes and special looking like they focus on Universe 7,6, and 2, I can only wonder where the two hidden U4 fighter and the U6 namikians come into play. They've yet to be seen and I assume the reason is because they will be a big deal. Should be interesting to see where it goes in the next month or so at least.

On a side note I totally hope Jimez is a secret badass. I want it. I want my Mr pink man to be awesome.

[IntoTheFire]

Why are people surprised Roshi is still in the tournament? The ending implies he'll be the 4th to last eliminated. He's going to outlast everyone but Freeza and Goku/Gohan.

That is only valid if the ending really does reveal the order of eliminations. Until Vegeta becomes the next character to go out it is purely speculation. As I don't really believe in the ending theory I do find it surprising that Roshi will last much longer especially if someone like Frost sets his eyes on him.

[dbzfan7]

How does Jimeze equal a nobody, this whole ToP is about a bunch of new fights that are mostly somebodies in their Universes meeting each other for the 1st time. Just cause WE don't known them does not come close to equaling a nobody.

At one point Hit was someone we did not known, but I don't many though he equaled to a nobody either.

It will be up to Toei if Jimeze is a Bad-A$$ or not but by the Spoilers;

He sounds Pretty BAD-A$$!

He's a total nobody. Ribriane is the one who is a somebody of that universe despite me not really liking her. Hit was always the hyped up big guy of U6 even from the beginning. He's the same as that other guy who is treated as a big deal of Universe 10, despite them being portrayed as gags more than serious fighters. He's a nobody because he's had no real hype to him. His biggest contribution has been helping his friends escape....that's it. That's not really someone who seems to show, yeah I am quite the secret badass. Though I've yet to see if this is a base or Ultimate level fight. Especially when Toshio personally puts Gohan and 17 on the same tier, and 17 was beating the ace of Universe 2 without really being in that much of a pickle. He's pretty much likely going to be the next guy Gohan eliminates as he's someone with absolutely no build up to him, making him merely an obstacle and nothing else.

You have no idea how good the Yardratian is and just saying that he is useless because Ribrianne is the strongest. Haven't you realised that this tournament is not just about power.

Exactly which is why I added Botamo in there. Cause at least Botamo is a somebody. Maybe not particularly strong, but at least he is a character who has had more to him than just being an obstacle. My argument isn't all about power, it's about fight match ups and having people fight others who have some build up or history. Goku and Vegeta are really the only one's mostly getting those kinds of match ups, while everyone else fights the obstacle of the week except for a few spots.

Without eliminations we could get.

Gohan vs Cabba/Cauliflowa/Kale. (Anyone of them really) Old Generation potential vs New Generation Potential
Piccolo vs Frost rematch
17 vs Hit Android Assassin vs Universe Assassin.
18 vs Magetta Cyborg vs full on robot.
Toppo vs Vegeta Justice vs former evil.
Dyspo vs Freeza. Justice vs true evil
Toppo vs Freeza Same as above.

Let's have some names actually fight and interact with other names for bouts instead of just established guy vs some mook we have no reason to care about. Goku and Vegeta usually get to fight someone with some sort of hype or intrigue no matter the strength level. I can only think of Gohan Botamo and Hit vs Dyspo as times where we had someone else fight a name we've had some build up to outside of those two. And even then the latter had Goku crash the party.

[FortuneSSJ]

I also don't like how Roshi may still be in after next episode.

I was having such a great time watching Krillin fight after the build-up he got and then he got eliminated in a stupid way.At least they could have make him be eliminated in a cooler way like Tenshinhan was or by protecting someone. But no. He and Yamcha are memes and the audience must always be reminded of that.

Meanwhile Roshi is still there spamming Mafubas.

[namekiansaiyan]

With the upcoming episodes and special looking like they focus on Universe 7,6, and 2, I can only wonder where the two hidden U4 fighter and the U6 namikians come into play. They've yet to be seen and I assume the reason is because they will be a big deal. Should be interesting to see where it goes in the next month or so at least.

On a side note I totally hope Jimez is a secret badass. I want it. I want my Mr pink man to be awesome.

Beerus points out the numbers issue with Universe 4 so they will probably appear soon.

There is definitely something up with those Namekians but at this rate we could be waiting a long time for them.

I am going to say that either the Bugs from Universe 4 or Namekians have a role in determining the outcome of the Goku vs Jiren fight in the special.

[YonedgeHP]

Really dislike this notion the DB fandom has taken of "in order to be important or very powerful, you must be hyped up or foreshadowed". Which is the reason the fanbase misunderstood Dispo's potential.

[JazzMazz]

Really dislike this notion the DB fandom has taken of "in order to be important or very powerful, you must be hyped up or foreshadowed". Which is the reason the fanbase misunderstood Dispo's potential.

That's just good story-telling.