Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:50 am

BlueBasilisk wrote: They did update some of the character designs for the arc. I noticed it back when they first uploaded the images on Toei's website. Hit and Frost were notably improved. Helles also got a pretty goid revamp about the same time. You shoukd be able to find the old art on the characters' respective DB wiki pages
All I'm finding is the original Toriyama art, not Yamamuro's designs from the Champa arc.

EDIT: Funi used the old designs for their announcement of the VAs for the Champa arc.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIGIKiBVwAAqzjb.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIGJuzhXUAAiqer.jpg
Hit's old design was also on a home release disc
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/wp-content/up ... jpg?x65474
You can't really make out the details there other than the different shading from the current design.
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/ ... 06_hit.png

Weird that Yamamuro updated first form Frost when he only shows up in the opening (and that bit even got cut), hopefully we see him in that form again sometime in the future, I like how it looks and it'd be nice for the updated design to actually see some use. I wonder if he updated Assault form Frost as well.
Kinda makes me wonder if Goku and Vegeta's designs have been updated but we just haven't seen the sheets.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:58 am

I can't wait to see the Kaiou-ken fail horribly. I wonder if they'll prescribe a good animator?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:11 am

JulieYBM wrote:I can't wait to see the Kaiou-ken fail horribly. I wonder if they'll prescribe a good animator?
I'm assuming all of the info we've gotten so far is from 109, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Manabe. With the time between episodes he might be able to finally go wild, so that'd be awesome.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:24 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:I can't wait to see the Kaiou-ken fail horribly. I wonder if they'll prescribe a good animator?
I'm assuming all of the info we've gotten so far is from 109, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Manabe. With the time between episodes he might be able to finally go wild, so that'd be awesome.
If all that, (Goku vs Telletubby, Jiren unleashes, Goku going KK and then using the Genki Dama/Spirit Bomb) does happen in #109 guess that means the talking and reactions will be non existent? Otherwise that seems a lot for one episode... I also assume this "special" where the extra drawing sheets will come in handy?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:40 pm

I'm so glad Yamamuro didn't stick with the squashed faces of F.
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I wonder if he's moving more towards round ears or if that's just this image.
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ArchedThunder wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:I can't wait to see the Kaiou-ken fail horribly. I wonder if they'll prescribe a good animator?
I'm assuming all of the info we've gotten so far is from 109, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Manabe. With the time between episodes he might be able to finally go wild, so that'd be awesome.
If all that, (Goku vs Telletubby, Jiren unleashes, Goku going KK and then using the Genki Dama/Spirit Bomb) does happen in #109 guess that means the talking and reactions will be non existent? Otherwise that seems a lot for one episode... I also assume this "special" where the extra drawing sheets will come in handy?
Episode 109's title mentions the Genki-Dama, and the recent preview of the special mentions that he uses Kaioken X20 before that so it seems like everything we've heard so far is from 109. My guess is that the two episodes will be very action packed and 109 will end with the Genki-Dama and then 110 will show that Jiren is okay and then Goku will get his new form in that episode.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by emperior » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:52 pm

JulieYBM wrote:I can't wait to see the Kaiou-ken fail horribly. I wonder if they'll prescribe a good animator?
I really hope they will. The Kaioken looks incredibly good when well animated!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ADdictedHD » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:27 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:I'm so glad Yamamuro didn't stick with the squashed faces of F.
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I wonder if he's moving more towards round ears or if that's just this image.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: I'm assuming all of the info we've gotten so far is from 109, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Manabe. With the time between episodes he might be able to finally go wild, so that'd be awesome.
If all that, (Goku vs Telletubby, Jiren unleashes, Goku going KK and then using the Genki Dama/Spirit Bomb) does happen in #109 guess that means the talking and reactions will be non existent? Otherwise that seems a lot for one episode... I also assume this "special" where the extra drawing sheets will come in handy?
Episode 109's title mentions the Genki-Dama, and the recent preview of the special mentions that he uses Kaioken X20 before that so it seems like everything we've heard so far is from 109. My guess is that the two episodes will be very action packed and 109 will end with the Genki-Dama and then 110 will show that Jiren is okay and then Goku will get his new form in that episode.
it seems like yamamuro's composition has got a lot better, if even just on a small scale like this, that new goku really looks like a single piece, rather than a bunch of features pasted together, which was the vibe the RoF promotional art gave me (obviously not literally)

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:39 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:I'm assuming all of the info we've gotten so far is from 109, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Manabe. With the time between episodes he might be able to finally go wild, so that'd be awesome.
I really hope so. He already gave us some cool stuff, but now with the time he had and the fact that his next episode will be the "Special", I'm expecting something more.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Burast » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:14 pm

emperior wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJG8xBVVYAAmF8R.jpg:large
I assume these new images are from the new ED.
If so that's new, usually we don't see anything till release.
Ughhh, Caulifla with Cabba's face again?! Can't Yamamuro learn how to draw her?
That's such a dumb and far fetched complaint. It's like saying "ugh, Goku with Gohan's face again?"

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by KameNinja45 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:31 pm

Burast wrote:
emperior wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJG8xBVVYAAmF8R.jpg:large
I assume these new images are from the new ED.
If so that's new, usually we don't see anything till release.
Ughhh, Caulifla with Cabba's face again?! Can't Yamamuro learn how to draw her?
That's such a dumb and far fetched complaint. It's like saying "ugh, Goku with Gohan's face again?"
Which is also a valid complaint?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Amir » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:50 am

Burast wrote:
emperior wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJG8xBVVYAAmF8R.jpg:large
I assume these new images are from the new ED.
If so that's new, usually we don't see anything till release.
Ughhh, Caulifla with Cabba's face again?! Can't Yamamuro learn how to draw her?
That's such a dumb and far fetched complaint. It's like saying "ugh, Goku with Gohan's face again?"
Yeah I agree. DBZ characters always have similar faces.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:22 pm

Looks like they want to go all out with the Special and a new ending will debut that day. I wonder how much animation it will have.

The marketing is good and I can feel the hype but it's the actual content of the Special that will matter, and while One Piece already has been showing cool footage of Luffy vs Sanji, we have nothing besides opening footage and promotional art.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Psykomatik » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:25 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Looks like they want to go all out with the Special and a new ending will debut that day. I wonder how much animation it will have.

The marketing is good and I can feel the hype but it's the actual content of the Special that will matter, and while One Piece already has been showing cool footage of Luffy vs Sanji, we have nothing besides opening footage and promotional art.
Well, to be fair, it will air in an entire month...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Sodhi » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:11 pm

Yea we are still an entire month away from it, which is a lot of time for corrections and last minute stuff. Knowing Super we won't see anything new until 1-2 weeks before the special.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:16 pm

The new ED was happening regardless, it's the beginning of a new cour.
If Yamamuro is heavily involved in 109 or 110 then the new ED will probably be very, very simple.

As for when we'll see anything from the special itself, my guess is your first glimpse will be the NEP at the end of 108 and then we'll probably get a PV a few days before the special airs.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Psykomatik » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:05 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:The new ED was happening regardless, it's the beginning of a new cour.
If Yamamuro is heavily involved in 109 or 110 then the new ED will probably be very, very simple.

As for when we'll see anything from the special itself, my guess is your first glimpse will be the NEP at the end of 108 and then we'll probably get a PV a few days before the special airs.
Last time we got Ryota Nakamura as a director, we got our first preview of the new arc. So I believe at the end of 107, we'll have 15 secondes dedicated to that special.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Psykomatik » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:15 pm

Psykomatik wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:The new ED was happening regardless, it's the beginning of a new cour.
If Yamamuro is heavily involved in 109 or 110 then the new ED will probably be very, very simple.

As for when we'll see anything from the special itself, my guess is your first glimpse will be the NEP at the end of 108 and then we'll probably get a PV a few days before the special airs.
Last time we got Ryota Nakamura as a director, we got our first preview of the new arc. So I believe at the end of 107, we'll have 15 secondes dedicated to that special.
EDIT: Wanna play a little, so I'm gonna try to guess the staff list of 110, since I believe it is the most important episode of the two...

Scenario: King Ryu - He's always the one writing big and important episodes, because he perfectly know how to write a Dragon Ball episode. He even wrote the Future Trunks Edition of the Resurrection of 'F' movie, and I honestly thought he would write 109 and 110 but well...

Art Direction: Bun-sun Lee - An easy one. He did 66, 70, 74, 78, 82, 86, 90, 94, 98, 102,106, and obviously he will be in 110 since he's working on every 4 episodes.

Animation Directors: Yuichi Karasawa and Koji Nashizawa - I wanna dream for Karasawa, his work on 106 was soooo rough, he can't be doing nothing else...

Director: Masato Mitsuka - Either him, or Akio Yamaguchi, but Mitsuka's direction is sooo strong i wanna see him here.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Ajay » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:30 pm

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Script: Hiroshi Yamaguchi, Atsuhiro Tomioka
Director/Stordboard: Tatsuya Nagamine, Masato Mitsuka
Animation Supervisors: Tsutomo Ono, Shuuchiro Manabe, Yoichi Onishi, Naoki Tate[/spoiler]

The special is saved. Thank god.

Manabe and Ono and then Onishi and Tate!

Best of all, Nagamine is directing along with Masato Mitsuka. #110 is written by Tomioka too!

So we've got Tate, Manabe, Shida, and probably Takahashi making an appearance. That's unbelievably exciting actually. All my negativity has been washed away by this new list.

This special's staff is lowkey stacked. Trying to contain my excitement now.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:44 pm

Mitsuka Misato directed Episode #94, by the way. I expect we'll get something at least as good as #94-95, but that's about it, unless Ootsuka Ken and some others hop into the project.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:47 pm

"Only" 8 weeks for Tate though, hopefully he doesn't have to carry his half of 110.
I'm honestly surprised Yamamuro isn't doing any supervision, but he'll probably still animate.

Since we're entering the "climax" of the tournamant I'm guessing most of the episodes beyond 110 will be from Tomioka, assuming the climax isn't a full cour or something.
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