ssbgoku wrote:[spoiler]I can see three ways they can explain why the current power stands of characters seems to differ mainly from what was estabilished:
- Retcon theory or everyone holding back when plot need it
- Everyone getting stronger with short or no training just because plot demand for it
- False ssg theory, let me know if you are interested
anyway I believe one of these approaches is correct + Strategy and skills along with it mastery and varations of techniques being game changer in battle like:
dbz - 20-30% gap is enough to beat up opponent
dbs - at least five times stronger if opponent is better fighter(skills, strategy, techniques, experience)[/spoiler]
I read this post and the others and I wanted to reply to some but was pretty occupied these last weeks.
As much as I think DBS's power scalling is far from perfect, I'm currently going for the bolded theory and I will explain later.
Revising strength may be a possibility. But why would the DBS writing team introduce pieces of new information like this without any kind of mentioning? For example, the Potara's time limit was a retcon. Well, it feels a bit odd to me.
Becoming stronger in a short amount of time is subjective as well. Each character has its own potential and they have different ways to get there. Despite that, when the plot demands a stronger character, it should provide at least some context, rather than none.
What would be the false ssg theory?
I prefer the characters holding back, because it gives them the advantage of scalling things up. This way weaker characters may shine. In a tournament, the tension remains, since they don't know the strength of the next opponent and, by this fact, they try to save power for the next fight. In friendly spars, they are most likely holding back as well.
These are the main reasons. Feel free to point any flaws. Anyway, I also agree strategy, skill, teamwork etc are as important as strength in battle. Sometimes we don't give them enough acknowledgement.
PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:[spoiler]It's clear that there are fundamental differences between the way we all interpret what the show is giving us.
Everyon thinks that their own way is the right way, and that everyone else is flawed somehow.
No matter how many justifications and theories we come up with, unless the show or the showrunners completely clarify it themselves, we're left just speculating. So what do you guys suppose it'll take to put an end to the more obsessive debates and disagreements regarding power-scaling, the importance of power, etc.? And what do you guys think we'll ACTUALLY get?
For example, a guidebook with power rankings is probably more feasible than the show itself explicitly confirming anything beyond clear power narratives like how Jiren is stronger than everyone else, even in their god forms. What do you guys want, and what do you expect?
I expect that the show will continue the current trend of playing up specific skills, abilities, etc., and only loosely apply power like when a character transforms to clearly identify an increase in power.
I want the show to have some offhand comments in-show about how having a higher power level doesn't mean you can instantly knock out someone or tank their hits.[/spoiler]
I agree. We should exercise empathy more in this community. Though, I have to say everything is questionable. I assume even the word of Toriyama himself wouldn't be free from that. Fortunately, we are getting some interaction with the writing team and their perspective. A guidebook may be asking too much, but I'm expecting little exchanges in Twitter or in interviews. The Roshi's episode was also well handled in the "experience vs. power" matter. They should do it more often.
