Kuririn's perfect opportunity to kill Freeza

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:52 am

I really find it odd how he missed this and I've always wondered how. He blinds Freeza with the Taiyoken and then runs away, not long at all after slicing off his tail with a Kienzan.

So why not throw another damn one and, I dunno, try to slice off his HEAD while he's blind and in obvious pain? I can understand why Toriyama didn't have him do this for the story's sake, but in character...

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:12 am

Considering that the original purpose of the Taiyo-ken was not always to blind the enemy and run away-- Tenshinhan initially developed it to blind the enemy to potential attack, given how he made use of it during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai-- it's rather odd that Kuririn didn't take the opportunity.

The only conceivable excuse I can come up with is that Kuririn knew (or rather, somehow decided) that he'd be unable to actually kill Freeza. Recall, when he comes flying back to Gohan and the others, Kuririn screams for Vegeta to take advantage of Freeza's temporary blindness and attack him instead.

~Da Lemmy

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:05 am

Maybe Kuririn got scared to kill Freeza or thought that Freeza might recover before Kuririn could get a Kienzan out. So that might be why he asked Vegeta to attack, being faster and stronger.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:27 am

It's quite possible Freeza could have attempted to shoot blasts in any random direction in a blind (no pun intended) fit of fury as Kuririn readied a Kienzan.

Kuririn was at least smart about it and gave the stronger fighter a chance to do it, rather than recklessly get himself killed.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:32 pm

I figure he didn't think he could do anything. If he tried to attack Freeza he could have easily been countered and killed instead. And IIRC, he was buying time for Dende to heal Gohan, so his mind was on other things. Also, I don't think he could have killed Freeza. If an attack like that from somone that much weaker than him truly was enough to take him out I think Freeza would have been dead long ago. A tail tip is one thing, it's a lot more exposed and vulnerable, and probably less defended than his head or chest, even while blind.

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:33 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote:given how he made use of it during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai--

You mean the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai against Jackie Chun?

Hehe.

Sorry, I just re-read my Dragon Ball manga, it's all in my head...so I have to get it out somehow! Yeah, Tenshinhan is the only guy that actually uses that technique well. All the others use it as Piccolo said "cowards".

Adey · Post by **Adey** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:22 pm

If he did attack Freeza with it, and Freeza died, the rest of the saga would be terribly uninteresting, that's why

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:53 pm

Drunken Master wrote:
Li'l Lemmy wrote:given how he made use of it during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai--
You mean the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai against Jackie Chun? Hehe.

Gah, that's what I meant. Too many damned tournaments.

~Da Lemmy

nitemare · Post by **nitemare** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:32 am

Xyex wrote:A tail tip is one thing, it's a lot more exposed and vulnerable, and probably less defended than his head or chest, even while blind

While tail is indeed least hardened part of Furiza's body it does not explain why he was dodging all kienzans so earnestly - he could take them head on as Cell did. I know difference in powers between them is humongous but Furiza was pretty angry at Kuririn for performing such attack, and so I think the latter could win if......

...if the one to defeat Furiza would not be Super Saiyajin :]

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:32 am

nitemare wrote:While tail is indeed least hardened part of Furiza's body it does not explain why he was dodging all kienzans so earnestly - he could take them head on as Cell did.

Cell taking Kienzans without damage and them breaking on him harmlessly is filler. In the Manga, nothing stopped the Kienzan. Cell should have lost his head when Kuririn hit him with it.... of course it would have grown back but that's besides the point.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:00 am

He was scared.

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 · Post by **Super Saiyan Turlast x4** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:07 am

For some odd reason, I believe Krillin's kienzan would not have worked on Freeza, due to the huge difference in power. Now, in the Saiyan Arc, krillin was close to hitting Nappa with the same attack, and I think that would have been the end of him, eventhough there was a huge difference in power there as well.

I just think the reason why he got Freeza was mainly due to Freeza's guard being down. Freeza would have surely been ready for the next attempt. But, the thing that hurts that argument is Krillin immediately {at least I think} threw an even bigger Kienzan that hit the ground and caused more kienzan's to fly at Freeza, causing him to dodge. If Freeza was quick to dodge those, then obviously he believed they would have done some sort of damage to him.

kaioken12 · Post by **kaioken12** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:30 pm

Talking about the taioken attack.
Wasn't in DB this attack over some period of time?
Or did it just look like that because it was shown how the characters were blinded?

In DB it always seemed like 10 minutes solar attack and in DBZ like one shot, one blinding effect which fades away.

Why that?

To topic:
Yeah, this is one of the things, I never understood.
Freeza was not able to sense people, so using the taioken would have given the fighters some advantage at least and yes, I thought Kuririn could have sliced Freeza (or at least Vegeta could, he could do a destructo disk as well since he tried to cut off Oozaru Gohan's tail) :/

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:18 pm

I just thought Freeza was so full of himself that he didn't want to let his body get "defiled" by the attack just like he flipped out when Goku made him bleed. It wasn't that he was actually hurt, it was just the concept that some maggot actually did something to him.

king jro · Post by **king jro** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:39 pm

heres 3 reasone why he didn't

1.well lets just say he killed him right then and there.
So then they would gather the Dragonballs wish there freinds back then go back home, wait a little bit and be killed by King Cold since Vegeta would of been killed in Trunks timeline too.
2.or Vegeta would get mad pissed and kill Krillin then Goku would come and kill him then King Cold would come and kill him, then blow up the planet. Then Buu would land on some other planet and kill everyone
3. Then Goku would not be the big hero.

Darkprince410 · Post by **Darkprince410** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:22 am

king jro wrote:heres 3 reasone why he didn't

1.well lets just say he killed him right then and there.
So then they would gather the Dragonballs wish there freinds back then go back home, wait a little bit and be killed by King Cold since Vegeta would of been killed in Trunks timeline too.
2.or Vegeta would get mad pissed and kill Krillin then Goku would come and kill him then King Cold would come and kill him, then blow up the planet. Then Buu would land on some other planet and kill everyone
3. Then Goku would not be the big hero.

Bejiita wouldn't have been pissed by Kuririn killing Furiiza (why would he? It might have been a small blow to his pride that a lowly human killed him, but Bejiita was in no position as it was to do anything to Furiiza.

Korudo wasn't anywhere near Nameksei when the events of the Furiiza Saga took place (in reality because he hadn't been created yet, storyline wise he just wasn't there), so it's not like he'd instantly swoop down and destroy Nameksei as soon as Furiiza was killed. If it wasn't for him finding Furiiza floating about amidst the remains of the planet, I doubt very much he would have even became aware of the events that transpired.

Ma-jin Buu's cocoon had been hidden on Earth for ages, so destroying Earth would either a) destroy it, or b) provide just enough of a disturbance to release him.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:28 am

What's with the romanizations?

Darkprince410 · Post by **Darkprince410** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:32 am

An old habit, you can ask Duo about it.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:21 am

Bejiita wouldn't have been pissed by Kuririn killing Furiiza (why would he? It might have been a small blow to his pride that a lowly human killed him, but Bejiita was in no position as it was to do anything to Furiiza.

A low leval killing Frieza kinda ate at him for years. I think a human doing it would have driven him crazy.

testing223 · Post by **testing223** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:42 am

Who is "Korudo" ? Sounds like a dragon's name.