Very interesting theory about Vegeta achieving new form as well.

Mercenary · Post by **Mercenary** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:27 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iGrt_MNGLE&t=1s

It is not just discussion theory like bunch of Youtubers usually make. It is something more with very interesting proofs, hints, snaps and so one. Just please, watch this and you won't regret it!

Especially that part with Vegeta being very CALM after training.

Arugela · Post by **Arugela** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:45 pm

That wasn't very cohesive. I didn't get the point he was making. We don't know if he learned to move without thinking. And the ki control is the basis of the entire god ki concept. We know that but nothing else seems to have enough given to say. He's trying to reach a new level. The info in that video is not exactly useful in figuring anything out.

Was the part where whis tells him about non physical training before or after he achieved god form? If so that was him telling him how to get ssg and or ssb. At which point he achieved it. Not sure where the body control kicks in. It's just base on a real world concept of letting the lower faster parts of your brain work to move quicker without excessive conscious thought. I honestly would have assumed they learned that in basic martial arts training with roshi in the original dragon ball. it's not that complicated. It's a natural reaction and makes you have faster reflexes. The training is simple. Stop thinking! Goku should have mastered it at birth. In fact it technically probably should be part of how he had faster reflexes as a youngin naturally! And he probably should have been considered to be doing it the entire time.. That line shocked me when they used it. They are moving at the speed of light and if you consider what ki should represent and more what it still did back in DB, I don't see how this is not considered absolutely rudimentary in dragon ball.

Shinda Forever · Post by **Shinda Forever** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:05 pm

Vegeta is always a step behind Goku, therefore, he won't get any new transformation in this arc.

Mercenary · Post by **Mercenary** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:43 pm

Shinda Forever wrote:Vegeta is always a step behind Goku, therefore, he won't get any new transformation in this arc.

Maybe they will come up with some surprises....Who knows.

KingKaash · Post by **KingKaash** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:56 pm

I watched the video and the comparison of the TOP training to all previous Vegeta training is pretty interesting. The hint from Whis is that the show is moving more towards control over the mind and energy instead of physical training. Jiren already seems to have mastered this which is why he is stronger than a GoD. So I'd love to see Vegeta get a new form/power that relates to the direction of controlling ki. It revitalize Vegeta's character for him to unlock a form/power first

Jigurashi · Post by **Jigurashi** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:42 pm

KingKaash wrote:I watched the video and the comparison of the TOP training to all previous Vegeta training is pretty interesting. The hint from Whis is that the show is moving more towards control over the mind and energy instead of physical training. Jiren already seems to have mastered this which is why he is stronger than a GoD. So I'd love to see Vegeta get a new form/power that relates to the direction of controlling ki. It revitalize Vegeta's character for him to unlock a form/power first

Jiren isn't confirmed to be stronger than a GoD.

larzooma · Post by **larzooma** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:28 pm

I've argued it's entirely possible Goku's new form isn't in the SSJ line. If that's true, Vegeta could have achieved a stronger grade of SSJB while training in the RoSaT, and still remain a step behind Goku.

KingKaash · Post by **KingKaash** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:11 am

Jigurashi wrote:
KingKaash wrote:I watched the video and the comparison of the TOP training to all previous Vegeta training is pretty interesting. The hint from Whis is that the show is moving more towards control over the mind and energy instead of physical training. Jiren already seems to have mastered this which is why he is stronger than a GoD. So I'd love to see Vegeta get a new form/power that relates to the direction of controlling ki. It revitalize Vegeta's character for him to unlock a form/power first
Jiren isn't confirmed to be stronger than a GoD.

You're right it hasn't been confirmed yet. But considering that Toppo is in line to be the next GoD and Jiren is stronger than him, it makes sense that Jiren is stronger than the next GoD of U11

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:32 am

In the main topic there's talks about the Genki dama being used so some think Goku might absorbe it and that will result in the new form. If that's the case then Vegeta won't get it. We've yet to see an official Toriyama design so it could end up being like the Blue Kaioken where it's just used in the anime but the manga will jsut stick to Blue.

Baggie_Saiyan · Post by **Baggie_Saiyan** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:48 am

I'd appreciate it next time if you can type the "theory" out and leave the YT link as just a supplement, this is not reddit.

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