I can't be the only one who's lost some interest w/o Krillin and Tien, can I?

[blackbewhite2k7]

Those are the guys I really wanted to shine the most this arc, given just how long it's been since they were a part of the action. They did...fine (better than half the other contestants in the tourney), but it hurts that they took the predictable route and got rid of them first.

Krillin got great treatment during the recruitment arc, and a neat save/solo elimination, but next to all that build up...left me feeling it was for nearly nothing in the end. They brought the guy out of retirement for this, and he's literally the first to go.

Next to his abysmal treatment in the recruitment arc, Tien's teamwork with Roshi and getting to corner/take out another enemy along with him is...better than nothing (Performance and the way he went out could have been a lot worse considering), but come one...Roshi wasn't the only one with a whole laundry list of unique moves shown in dragon ball they could have used.

I'm stoked Roshi was treated respectfully, but...to have him straight up outlast AND outperform two of the fighters to whom he had LONG since passed the torch...feels insulting.

[Lionel]

Is it really that surprising? Old school faces from the early years don't make for very good promotion or likability with the audiences relative to the some of the Z cast as a whole. I suspect many of the fans, possibly the greatest percentage, prefer watching Saiyans or someone like Freeza who can transform, engage in high intensity fisticuffs that generate shockwaves, and create slews of glitzy projectiles. Krillin and Tenshinhan still have their own fanbases, but I doubt they're anything like the fanbases for Vegeta, Goku, Freeza, or the new Saiyans. Plus, neither Toriyama or Toei seem particularly interested in building upon their characters so why should the fans pay them any heed beyond the token scraps given in the hopes of quenching the thirst of their support base?

Overall, I found their participation in the tournament to be shallow and devoid of much worth. They got to eliminate a few characters, a good portion of which through the most straightforward processes imaginable, and that was it. Nothing truly significant came about as a result of their involvement. It felt like fanservice for the most part. Roshi still has a chance to prove this conception wrong, but I'm not holding my breath. Anything on the scale of the Saiyan arc Vegeta fight doesn't seem too likely to happen again.

[MainJPW]

Is it really that surprising? Old school faces from the early years don't make for very good promotion or likability with the audiences relative to the some of the Z cast as a whole. I suspect many of the fans, possibly the greatest percentage, prefer watching Saiyans or someone like Freeza who can transform, engage in high intensity fisticuffs that generate shockwaves, and create slews of glitzy projectiles.

....Kuririn and Majora's fight had that...just without the transformations and the glitzy projectiles.

[KingKaash]

I actually had forgotten Krillin was in the tournament until the Roshi episode where it showed his reactions to his Master Roshi. So no I haven't lost any interest since the exit of Krillin or Tien.

[Jigurashi]

I still enjoy Kuririn very much. I also never really gave a single fuck about Tenshinhan since the 23rd Budokai. Super hasn't changed my opinion of Ten. He's still a boring ass character to me, with the added (unfortunate for the character and his fans) addition of looking quite garbage.

[Saturnine]

I still enjoy Kuririn very much. I also never really gave a single fuck about Tenshinhan since the 23rd Budokai. Super hasn't changed my opinion of Ten. He's still a boring ass character to me, with the added (unfortunate for the character and his fans) addition of looking quite garbage.

I actually think he looks quite cool, so guess it's down to taste

[Ranmaru Rei]

Speaking of Tenshinhan, I almost forgot that he have the technique for reflecting ki attacks, until I participated in one discussion about possible movesets of characters for Fighter Z. Krillin in Fighter Z, btw, has more DB feel, than DBZ.
What I want to say… Previously Dragon Ball was about tactics and techniques. Now Dragon Ball shows less techniques, but more transformations, and more about raw power, than before.
Krillin and Tenshinhan definitely have a lot of interesting techniques, but they are outperformed, because they are earthlings and have not enough power.
You should be an alien to be powerful in DB.

[Akyon]

Could be bias on my part but I haven't seen anything as fun as that dodgeball attack Krillin and 18 performed against Shosa.

I've definitely lost some interest since Krillin and Roshi have been two of the more interesting combatants. Tenshinhan just feels like a wasted chance, but it really was the last straw for me with the guy.
The episode wasn't entertaining and that's the biggest tragedy. Tien just isn't amusing, nor is he powerful and his strategies aren't as creative or unique as the other humans and whilst he has a big bag of tricks he only ever uses one or maybe two moves of the list at most. Bring Yamcha next time. I'll take cheap ill spirited laughs over the dull indifference Tien brings.

17's also been quite entertaining to watch fight but I am getting Saiyan fatigue fast with Goku turning up every episode to get involved in everyone else's battles. He and Vegeta should not have been in the battle where it was meant to be Tenshinhan's big moment. Piccolo and Gohan are fine as they are rarely also in focus, but the two main saiyans should move aside and just let the weaker team mates take out the smaller names.

Desperately need Frieza to wow at this point.

[Shaqazooloo]

Yeah, the only thing I'm looking forward to now is Master Roshi and thankfully they made him pretty badass. Hopefully he kicks Frost ass and wins the tournament!

[TheOne]

I'm in a similar situation, except it's because of Roshi. I have lost interest in the show due to the showing of Roshis relevance at the cost of Tien and Krillins. I was personally against Roshis appearance in this tournament to begin with, so when I saw Krillin and Tien knocked out while Roshi stayed in the ring, I lost interest. So much so that I haven't seen the last two episodes.

I'm not a huge fan of the humans to begin with, but I saw this tournament as a way for Tien (the only one who we TRULY know has been training this whole time..) to really shine and show he was able to compete in this tournament. Instead he was kamikazeed. Their whole approach to handling everything just makes me not interested. Which sucks because I've been a huge dragon ball fan for years, and spent many days in high school/college hoping to receive news of a new series/movie. Now that it's here and not going the way I like, kinda makes me disappointed.

[Nickolaidas]

Super made Krillin a badass cop, brought him back from martial arts retirement, forced him to an epiphany episode where he grew some balls and gave me an episode where he takes on Goku at Super Saiyan Fucking Blue.

So ... yeah ... can't really say I lost interest. Quite the opposite, to be frank.

Tien, on the other hand, really can't catch a break in Super. A part of me actually enjoys this (I'm ashamed to admit it), because I always looked at Tien as a rival to Krillin's #1 Earthling spot. Immature of me, I know. Can't say I lost interest because I was never really interested in him as a character, especially after the 23rd Budokai. Always enjoy playing as him in fighting games, though.

[FortuneSSJ]

There may be dozens like you...

Personally I couldn't care less about Tenshinhan. There's nothing interesting about him after Saiyan arc.

Krillin is entertaining. I loved the build-up arc he got and I was hyped to see how he would perform. I still like his short fight scenes in TOP more than most of the other character's fights so far. I got disappointed why he was the first to go. It's actually one of the few things I didn't like in to Tournament so far, but it doesn't affect me to the point I'm not hyped to see the rest.

Next step I want his character to take is to open his own dojo just like he did in DB Online. Tenshinhan already opened his own dojo just like in DB Online and frankly that's the best thing they could have done for his character, so it may happen.

[TekTheNinja]

Absolutely. Those two were the main dudes I was looking forward to in the tournament and now they're already gone, so my interest in the tournament has plummeted. I already have zero excitement about the Goku vs Jiren fight since I currently couldn't care less about either of those characters, and Gohan's fights in Super so far tend to be generic slug-fests, so until they dedicate a more interesting fight to him, meh. The androids are alright, Vegeta is seemingly being set up to job, Roshi is definitely going out soon if not next episode, and fuck Frieza's inclusion, so all I'm really hopeful for right now is mah boi Big Green.

[Benedetto12]

I expected a lot more from the 2, Tien was always a badass IMO, he stood against Cell and Super Buu without fear, in the TOP he was barely used and even portrayed as a coward fighter, not cool.

And about Krillin I expected him to be on the top 5 fighters to last in team U7 along Goku, Gohan, Frieza and Vegeta, he was really hyped before the TOP, but he was the first to go out, even if the chapter focused on him was really cool and funny, I feel he was underused.

[Boo Machine]

I was hoping for more from Krillin. What we got was cool, but I feel he should have been in Roshi's place right now. Winded but still in the game through pure skill.

Tien I'm indifferent about. I wasn't expecting much from him so I don't care all that much that he is out, though it is a shame that we weren't pleasantly surprised like with Roshi. Another character I wasn't expecting much from at first.

All that said my interest in the tournament is the same as ever. Only slightly interested in the events. I'm excited for certain characters, and we have gotten some really cool bits of action and moments I love, but I was never all that hyped about the tournament to begin with. But even if I was, my excitement about anything doesn't only hinge on certain characters as I like more than just my favorites.

[Olympian]

The TOP is the main arc with the most wasted potential in recent memory. You could have any great flawless teamwork between Roshi, Goku, Piccolo, Gohan, Tenhinhan, Yamcha and Kuririn since they all learned under the same school at one point or another or trained together. That would be fanservice done well, it`s not even about any of them saiving the day is about respecting the fans the characters have. Any level of interactions between the androids and the humans, Kuririn and Gohan tag teaming again, Piccolo and Goku or Roshi and Goku, Yamcha and Ten fusing to bring in fans of the games, well, the possibilities are endless. The only sufficient aspect in terms of interaction has been Goku and Freeza.

Instead, it`s about new rainbow colors for Saiyan hair in discount. Gotta catch them all before they disappear, folks.

Pass.

[blackbewhite2k7]

Absolutely. Those two were the main dudes I was looking forward to in the tournament and now they're already gone, so my interest in the tournament has plummeted. I already have zero excitement about the Goku vs Jiren fight since I currently couldn't care less about either of those characters, and Gohan's fights in Super so far tend to be generic slug-fests, so until they dedicate a more interesting fight to him, meh. The androids are alright, Vegeta is seemingly being set up to job, Roshi is definitely going out soon if not next episode, and fuck Frieza's inclusion, so all I'm really hopeful for right now is mah boi Big Green.

Tien and Piccolo are my absolute favourite Stoic characters in Dragon Ball...And ironically the two who get fucked the most (not including Yamcha, who in hindsight peaked in the very first arc of the story altogether before becoming the guy the series needs to lose against every new big opposition since Jackie Chun)

Fingers crossed for Big Green, but given Gohan had to carry him over his shoulder by the end of ep 106...I'm nervous.

[blackbewhite2k7]

Super made Krillin a badass cop, brought him back from martial arts retirement, forced him to an epiphany episode where he grew some balls and gave me an episode where he takes on Goku at Super Saiyan Fucking Blue.

So ... yeah ... can't really say I lost interest. Quite the opposite, to be frank.

Tien, on the other hand, really can't catch a break in Super. A part of me actually enjoys this (I'm ashamed to admit it), because I always looked at Tien as a rival to Krillin's #1 Earthling spot. Immature of me, I know. Can't say I lost interest because I was never really interested in him as a character, especially after the 23rd Budokai. Always enjoy playing as him in fighting games, though.

I've always been in the camp of the Top human fighters not really being that far apart (Barring maybe Yamcha, who stopped caring after 20 put a hole in his chest), no matter who's at top, given all the factors to consider.

Krillin is definitely better off now, but half of Super hardly treated him that well. It was implied up until they came back to Roshi for Training before the ToP that Krillin was WAY out of shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJSsUbEI8tc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrTls3ulGcY

Prior to coming out of retirement its fair to say Tien (and Roshi) > Krillin.
Now It's the other way around, but the arc could have easily said Krillin trained in the Time Chamber instead of using normal human training equipment in his house...

[Duo]

Kuririn has had enough presence of character in various episodes to where I did not need him to last long in the tournament. His being first out was acceptable to me, and I enjoyed the episode leading up to that point.

Tenshinhan's entire existence in Super has somehow been treated like an outright joke. I can deal with it and move past, considering he's been getting shoved aside for decades, but I do not understand why he got brought in at all with the exception of Resurrection 'F'. It was hard not to expect something more before he decided he didn't want to be in the tournament any longer. He could have at least held down a stronger opponent by repeated firing the Kikoho as a throwback to Cell while Piccolo charged an attack or something. He's like the one exception in the entire cast from managing to do anything notable.

[TheBigBoy]

I'm a huge Kuririn fanboy and I like Tenshinhan as well.

The fact they're doing...ANYTHING with them in Super a breath of fresh air and very welcome. I mean, they did next to nothing the last two arcs of Z. In the movies they just show up to get their asses kicked. The fact that they're taking out guys in the tournament, even if these guys are probably a step or two above cannon fodder, there's been some great moments. Okay, a lot the Ten stuff has been underwhelming and I think Kuririn was eliminated a little too early (I wouldn't have waited 5 episodes to eliminate the next team member). Sure there's missed opportunities, but you can "what about if they did this" all day.

The Roshi stuff has been top tier though, I think his recent spotlight episode has been the best one of the ToP.