Dragonball Z - Season 3 Set

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:20 am

I COULD get the Dragonboxes if I was willing to be patient. But the reason I buy these Season Sets, despite their flaws, is the SUBTITLES. And, yes, the dub, which makes it easy to get my girlfriend into it (she loves it now, but she wouldn't have liked the Japanese original if I'd started her with it).

Toniofalcon · Post by **Toniofalcon** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:26 am

Yeah, I subtitles are a must for me. I know Dragon Ball enough to understand exactly what's going on, but it just wouldn't be right for me if I didn't know what they were saying.

Plus I like/ have come accustomed to the dub voices. I do want the opportunity to watch the entire series in Japanese though.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:50 am

I never really bought these sets for remastering, so I really don't give a shit about the flaws. I just want to finally have all 291 episodes completely uncut. And I'm not forking over 1,000 bucks for something that looks pretty.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:02 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I never really bought these sets for remastering, so I really don't give a shit about the flaws. I just want to finally have all 291 episodes completely uncut. And I'm not forking over 1,000 bucks for something that looks pretty.

I wouldn't gtive a shit about the remastering flaws, but when it makes it worse than the original releases that's something to give a shit about.

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:24 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Drunken Master wrote:The colors are great
Indeed. The lack of lines really brings out the color in Goku's eyes. Magnificent.

Let's nitpick a scene to make my opinion look bad, cool! Dude, I'm a 22 year-old man. I don't care about getting the perfect 'DBZ' collection. I just want to watch english 'DBZ' in it's entirety one last time before I retire it in my life. All these bad scenes I've look at don't bother me that much, besides the cropping sometimes. Why don't you look at Recoome in that shot? Real Dragon Ball fans wouldn't be complaining about all this FUNimation stuff, you should know better by now, but rather all the shitty animation PERIOD by some of Toei's studios. Sometimes certain scenes make me want to puke, and they can't be compared to cropping, or smudges. 'DBZ' looks bad to me anyways, and the manga is perfect, and always will be.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:48 pm

Drunken Master wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Drunken Master wrote:The colors are great
Indeed. The lack of lines really brings out the color in Goku's eyes. Magnificent.
Let's nitpick a scene to make my opinion look bad, cool!

Let's ignore fact to make other's opinions look bad, cool!

Drunken Master wrote:Real Dragon Ball fans wouldn't be complaining about all this FUNimation stuff,...

Sorry, but statements like these just make you look like more of a tool, whether you like the wide-screen releases or not.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:52 pm

Drunken Master wrote:Real Dragon Ball fans wouldn't be complaining about all this FUNimation stuff,...

I agree! Real fans wouldn't care if Funimation chopped 90% of the screen off. Psh I'd bet we'd really get some crazy extra never before seen shoulder action if they did that! REAL fans ignore Funimations mistakes. That's why we have uncut DVDs right?

TheMajinRedComet · Post by **TheMajinRedComet** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:11 pm

Lets avoid the statement "Real Fan", and keep this civil.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:15 pm

I just think people are annoyed at how FUNimation went about advertising this. This is suppost to be the definitive collection, this is now our default (setting?) of the DragonBall Z series in America. It was advertised as being perfect. FUNimation went on and on about how they spent a gazillion dollars making it perfect in everyway.

If they didn't make a big fuss about it, I don't think anyone would point out the flaws as much. For example, when they released the movies here, they didn't release them widescreen resulting in some errors in animation here and there....

Nobody really made a fuss about it I mean, we talked about it and why it happens but that was it. FUNimation never said they were perfect.

Toniofalcon · Post by **Toniofalcon** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:21 pm

This all proves that Funimation isn't so much an evil company, just a really stupid one that does evil things to make up for it.

That's the only conclusion I can come to when it comes to this entire fiasco. Why would they spend so much money just to screw up? Couldn't have been intentional. Unless they plan on putting out a premium set with everything we ever wanted on BDs or HDDVDs later. Now that'd be dirty.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:29 pm

Toniofalcon wrote:This all proves that Funimation isn't so much an evil company, just a really stupid one that does evil things to make up for it.

That's the only conclusion I can come to when it comes to this entire fiasco. Why would they spend so much money just to screw up? Couldn't have been intentional. Unless they plan on putting out a premium set with everything we ever wanted on BDs or HDDVDs later. Now that'd be dirty.

I'd actually hold out for the aforementioned "everything we ever wanted" set.

I haven't bought ANY of the orange boxes yet because they lack that cheesy original syndication track that was replaced by the semi-redub. (nothing against the semi-redub; Mr. Sabat did great in Vegeta's redubbed death scene).

If Funi wants my money, they'll need to tack on the nostalgia. ;3

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:36 pm

Toniofalcon wrote:This all proves that Funimation isn't so much an evil company, just a really stupid one that does evil things to make up for it.

That's the only conclusion I can come to when it comes to this entire fiasco. Why would they spend so much money just to screw up? Couldn't have been intentional.

Botching the video? Not intentional...
Widescreening the video? 100% intentional...
Cover-up/lying/making excuses? 100% intentional...

Chuquita wrote:I'd actually hold out for the aforementioned "everything we ever wanted" set.

There is a 99% chance these box sets will be re-released in HD on BluRay, and that's all we'll ever see (from FUNImation at least).

Toniofalcon · Post by **Toniofalcon** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:36 pm

Just thought of something. Maybe there's still hope for the Dragon Ball set that's going to come out eventually. If they screw up on that with the same problems then they are just jerks......

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:49 pm

Iam going to ask a qustion here and Iam probley going to sound like an idiot but...

Do you think maybe FUNimation remasterd the already remasterd prints from the UUC editions resulting in a really messed up print. I say this cause they already remasterd those prints, if they just ran those through that magic remastering machine they have, would that result in the brightness and breaking of the lines issue?

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:01 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Iam going to ask a qustion here and Iam probley going to sound like an idiot but...

Do you think maybe FUNimation remasterd the already remasterd prints from the UUC editions resulting in a really messed up print. I say this cause they already remasterd those prints, if they just ran those through that magic remastering machine they have, would that result in the brightness and breaking of the lines issue?

Who said the UUE were remastered? People were able to spot the same errors on UUE editions on some scenes, but the remastering process brought out all of the lines so they stood out even more-so in the widescreen releases.

I'm betting they took all of their film masters and assumed they could have someone "push a magic button" and clean up the video. When you do things like that, it means that 95% of the video will turn out already, however the 5% that doesn't gets worse because of the en mass remastering process. They did not go back to see if it had caused any errors (this much is obvious). And chances are all eps/movies are already done by that Franko fellow who couldn't even type a coherent e-mail. They probably just need to master the DVDs and release them on a decent schedule.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:30 pm

Drunken Master wrote:Let's nitpick a scene to make my opinion look bad, cool!

Nitpicking would be if I posted saying that Goku's eyes and flesh tone are off from the original cels by .02% or some ridiculous figure. Pointing out the obvious would be saying that half the fucking lines are gone.

Dude, I'm a 22 year-old man.

Dude, I'm a 23 year-old man. Should we break out the rulers and commence with the "whose dick is bigger" contest? Age doesn't mean shit. I've known 40 year olds who are complete morons and 15 year olds who are my intellectual equal.

I don't care about getting the perfect 'DBZ' collection.

Like I said, apathetic or ignorant. Thanks for the support.

People seem to miss the point here, so I'll repeat it again: WTF would be bad about a better quality version? People act like criticizing these sets is criticizing Jesus Christ himself.

Real Dragon Ball fans wouldn't be complaining about all this FUNimation stuff,

Oh?

you should know better by now,

I'm dying of anticipation!

but rather all the shitty animation PERIOD by some of Toei's studios.

...oh...well, that was anti-climatic...

Sometimes certain scenes make me want to puke, and they can't be compared to cropping, or smudges.

Ah! So let me get this:

Bad scene + halfass remastering + cropping = ...good?

'DBZ' looks bad to me anyways, and the manga is perfect, and always will be.

Hot damn. That's downright philosophical right there. I'm not trying to be a dick, but...well, I am to an extent, but that aside...why are people so damned defensive? It's not like I'm dancing around with a DragonBox hanging from my dick singing about how you are all inferior to me because you didn't import also. I spent a lot of money on a somewhat poorly animated series because I'm a dork who loves said series and worked a bunch of overtime. I'm just sorry you guys are getting fucked, which people tend to mistake for some elitist bullshit.

-Corey

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:04 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Dude, I'm a 22 year-old man.
Dude, I'm a 23 year-old man. Should we break out the rulers and commence with the "whose dick is bigger" contest? Age doesn't mean shit. I've known 40 year olds who are complete morons and 15 year olds who are my intellectual equal.

I laughed pretty hard at this. It's very true though...age definitely doesn't dictate a persons level of intellect.

Anyway...I don't really agree with these sets either and it's a shame funimation had to try this garbage remastering job and label it as something so well done. I think that's the real problem here, they're lying about it even though it's so easy for anyone with half a brain to see the flaws. The widescreen thing is annoying...I feel like I could cringe whenever I see someone's head cut off. (Especially when it's a scene I really like, such as the one with Goku, Krillin, Gohan, and Piccolo when they think that Freeza is dead.) It also pisses me off that they're trying to make this the only legal way to own DB in the U.S.

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:31 pm

Rofl, good job guys, make it look like I'm a FUNimation fan by quoting some of what I said, instead of the whole paragraph.

ect5150 wrote: Let's ignore fact to make other's opinions look bad, cool!

I'm sorry, what fact is this?

ect5150 wrote:Sorry, but statements like these just make you look like more of a tool, whether you like the wide-screen releases or not.

Dude, who are you? I wasn't even quoting you. Okay, since you want to get into my convo and make me type more, I'm going to show you that you don't know what's going on. You quoted me saying this - "Real Dragon Ball fans wouldn't be complaining about all this FUNimation stuff". Wow. Oh man, I'm such a tool. Can you read? My WHOLE quote was - "Real Dragon Ball fans wouldn't be complaining about all this FUNimation stuff, you should know better by now". As in FUNimation screws up everything all the time. Good job! Also, I hate wide-screen releases, so who are you? Do you know me or something?

NeptuneKai wrote:I agree! Real fans wouldn't care if Funimation chopped 90% of the screen off. Psh I'd bet we'd really get some crazy extra never before seen shoulder action if they did that! REAL fans ignore Funimations mistakes. That's why we have uncut DVDs right?

You seem to be going off his split quote. Refer to the above reply, and once again I said I didn't like the cropping.

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Nitpicking would be if I posted saying that Goku's eyes and flesh tone are off from the original cels by .02% or some ridiculous figure. Pointing out the obvious would be saying that half the fucking lines are gone.

I was saying it's one scene out of a million. Not how many lines were missing. Good lord.

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Dude, I'm a 23 year-old man. Should we break out the rulers and commence with the "whose dick is bigger" contest? Age doesn't mean shit. I've known 40 year olds who are complete morons and 15 year olds who are my intellectual equal.

Why so pissy? I was saying I'm 22, meaning I don't care about DBZ as much as I used to, that's why I wanted to watch it one more time before I retire it, and I don't care if these sets are not to your standards, as I purely don't give a shit. They are decent, and I can watch them. My opinion. These sets are fine to me. AHHHHH!

SonEric84 wrote: I laughed pretty hard at this. It's very true though...age definitely doesn't dictate a persons level of intellect.

Nice, again. I NEVER said that, nor implied that.

Sorry If I'm harsh, but I hate when people put words in my mouth, or simply say what they think I meant. Somehow a post about how I thought the sets were fine for ME to buy, ends up with people calling me out for praising the season sets, and how I'm a FUNimation fanboy.

achassi · Post by **achassi** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:50 pm

Man, i'm getting tired of hearing this

email2003 · Post by **email2003** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:52 pm

Brad Redfield wrote:So yeah, I ended up buying seasons two and three since they were dirt cheap (Both $25.) not to mention I mind as well get them for Daimao's subtitles. I haven't bothered watching season two but I have watched bits and pieces of season three and there's some fantastic moments to be had.

This was pretty funny to me.

"Oof! Damn widescreen bars!" - Recoome

"Yup, looks like everything worked out in the end." - Goku
*Piccolo gets his head chopped off*
"Uh..." - Gohan

And a PNG of Goku the Super Saiya-blob:

This also happens to Kaio-sama's attenae when they move.

EDIT: Also, there seems to be an audio problem for the japanese track of either episode 97 or 98. It makes it sound all wavy for the first ten minutes of the episode. Might be just the age of the audio track taking its toll.

This is exactly why I haven't laid one $ of my hard earned cash to buy this crap. I laugh at this and the stupid season sets everytime I go to Best Buy.

I rather purchase the Fullmetal Alchemist season set than this. Least that season set ain't screwed up!

Kanzenshuu

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