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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by KameNinja45 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:19 am

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SansrivaaL wrote:Anyone has any idea who did the art of the form in the preview? damn it looks nice.
Some of the art looks like Manabe based on ears, the shot of Goku's transformation is definitely Yamamuro's art.
Now people can calm down about Tate ruining the transformation.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Hit!! » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:56 am

So it's not a special, it's two episodes back to back??

That means 2 intro's, 2 recaps, 2 outro's and 2 NEP's and apporximately only 30 minutes of actual new content. I'd be lying if i said i'm not a bit dissapointed.

I thought we'd have a REAL 1 hour special.. You know, like Bardocks Special, like Trunks Special etc..

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:05 am

"1h Specials"

Even though I have One Piece on hold, I just watched the Special episode 807/808 out of curiosity and boy that was a huge disappointment!

First, Toei advertise these as being "1h Specials" when they are just two normal episodes that sum a total of around 45 minutes. Less 15 minutes in tv ads. Nothing that I didn't expect, but worth of pointing out.

Second, each episode had 6 eyecatches. Now this is something I didn't expect. A normal episode usually has 2 eyecatches. 6 is just too much.
Both episodes together make a total of 12 eyecatches, which means everyone that watched this live on TV had to deal with 3 breaks in each episode, plus the one in the middle of both episodes.

I expected a total of 3 breaks - One in the middle of episode 807, one between both episodes and one in the middle of episode 808. I got the double of that...
If I was already annoyed for having to deal with just the eyecatches, I can't imagine what the audience that watched this live and dealt with the actual TV ads felt.

Episode 807 is mostly just flashbacks. The title is "A heartbreaking duel! Luffy vs Sanji! - part 1", even though the actual fight only starts around the 10 minutes mark of episode 808...
Episode 808 is the only "Special" and even so there's nothing mindblowing there. Luffy vs Sanji as a fight is nothing special, even though Toei was advertising it as being the climax of the arc or the final battle of the show, it's just Sanji kicking Luffy.

Sure the animation/art is good, but DBS episode 66 felt more like a Special than this. I expected to see two awesome episodes and I barely got one.

As for the DBS Special, I'm not worried about this because Goku vs Jiren will be more intense and DBS doesn't the pacing issues One Piece anime has, but the eyecatches part is something I'm worried about. Not only is annoying but also kills the flow.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by dhaval_dongre » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:06 am

dhaval_dongre wrote:Here's some info u won't find on discord. I asked Ishitani that whether she was gonna work on the new ending, but she replied back, saying that

A different person will produce a new ending. It will be her first production so please look forward to it!

Any guess who this mystery female is ??? I am really glad that the new ending is not done by Yamamuro, because the song is great and I really wanted some different take on it than the usual Yamamuro stuff.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:23 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:"1h Specials"

Even though I have One Piece on hold, I just watched the Special episode 807/808 out of curiosity and boy that was a huge disappointment!

First, Toei advertise these as being "1h Specials" when they are just two normal episodes that sum a total of around 45 minutes. Less 15 minutes in tv ads. Nothing that I didn't expect, but worth of pointing out.

Second, each episode had 6 eyecatches. Now this is something I didn't expect. A normal episode usually has 2 eyecatches. 6 is just too much.
Both episodes together make a total of 12 eyecatches, which means everyone that watched this live on TV had to deal with 3 breaks in each episode, plus the one in the middle of both episodes.

I expected a total of 3 breaks - One in the middle of episode 807, one between both episodes and one in the middle of episode 808. I got the double of that...
If I was already annoyed for having to deal with just the eyecatches, I can't imagine what the audience that watched this live and dealt with the actual TV ads felt.

Episode 807 is mostly just flashbacks. The title is "A heartbreaking duel! Luffy vs Sanji! - part 1", even though the actual fight only starts around the 10 minutes mark of episode 808...
Episode 808 is the only "Special" and even so there's nothing mindblowing there. Luffy vs Sanji as a fight is nothing special, even though Toei was advertising it as being the climax of the arc or the final battle of the show, it's just Sanji kicking Luffy.

Sure the animation/art is good, but DBS episode 66 felt more like a Special than this. I expected to see two awesome episodes and I barely got one.

As for the DBS Special, I'm not worried about this because Goku vs Jiren will be more intense and DBS doesn't the pacing issues One Piece anime has, but the eyecatches part is something I'm worried about. Not only is annoying but also kills the flow.
Looking at the run times of the episodes it doesn't look like the two One Piece episodes were any shorter than normal, so I guess they just spread the commercials out across the episodes more? I don't watch One Piece, but is that the normal way they do it?

Anyways, it's important to note that Toei didn't advertise these as TV Specials, just specials, and from what I understand that word usage is pretty commonly used when an anime airs two episodes back to back.
It is odd that apparently the two episodes of One Piece were apparently nothing special when the OP Special is the one that got the bigger advertising push.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:52 am

ArchedThunder wrote: Looking at the run times of the episodes it doesn't look like the two One Piece episodes were any shorter than normal, so I guess they just spread the commercials out across the episodes more? I don't watch One Piece, but is that the normal way they do it?
Just like DBS, One Piece usually only has one commercial break in the middle.

Usually goes like:
9:00 - DBS part 1, commercial break, DBS part 2.
9:30 - OP part 1, commercial break, OP part 2.

Both episodes had the normal length but seems like in order to make it 1h, it had more commercials breaks than normal and thus the amount of eyecatches doubled.

This time it was like:
9:00 - Episode 807 part 1, commercial break, Episode 807 part 2, comercial break, Episode 807 part 3, comercial break, Episode 807 part 4.
9:30 - Episode 808 part 1, commercial break, Episode 808 part 2, comercial break, Episode 808 part 3, comercial break, Episode 808 part 4.

It was really annoying.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:57 am

FortuneSSJ wrote: Just like DBS, One Piece usually only has one commercial break in the middle.

Usually goes like:
9:00 - DBS part 1, commercial break, DBS part 2.
9:30 - One Piece part 1, commercial break, One Piece part 2.

Both episodes had the normal length but seems like in order to make it 1h, it had more commercials breaks than normal and thus the amount of eyecatches doubled.
That doesn't make sense, if the episodes were normal length then the length of ads would be the same since the special was just two episodes aired back to back, unless you're saying they didn't play the OP and ED twice and didn't run a NEP between the episodes.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:04 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: That doesn't make sense, if the episodes were normal length then the length of ads would be the same since the special was just two episodes aired back to back, unless you're saying they didn't play the OP and ED twice and didn't run a NEP between the episodes.
Nothing in this "1h Special" makes sense, but you can watch it for yourself. Pick up episode 808 which is the better one. Both had Openings, the same number of eyecatches and NEPS.
One Piece anime doesn't have Endings anymore, just a long Opening.

They are 2 normal episodes. The difference is that each one has 6 eyectaches instead of the usual 2.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:36 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:"1h Specials"

Even though I have One Piece on hold, I just watched the Special episode 807/808 out of curiosity and boy that was a huge disappointment!

First, Toei advertise these as being "1h Specials" when they are just two normal episodes that sum a total of around 45 minutes. Less 15 minutes in tv ads. Nothing that I didn't expect, but worth of pointing out.

Second, each episode had 6 eyecatches. Now this is something I didn't expect. A normal episode usually has 2 eyecatches. 6 is just too much.
Both episodes together make a total of 12 eyecatches, which means everyone that watched this live on TV had to deal with 3 breaks in each episode, plus the one in the middle of both episodes.

I expected a total of 3 breaks - One in the middle of episode 807, one between both episodes and one in the middle of episode 808. I got the double of that...
If I was already annoyed for having to deal with just the eyecatches, I can't imagine what the audience that watched this live and dealt with the actual TV ads felt.

Episode 807 is mostly just flashbacks. The title is "A heartbreaking duel! Luffy vs Sanji! - part 1", even though the actual fight only starts around the 10 minutes mark of episode 808...
Episode 808 is the only "Special" and even so there's nothing mindblowing there. Luffy vs Sanji as a fight is nothing special, even though Toei was advertising it as being the climax of the arc or the final battle of the show, it's just Sanji kicking Luffy.

Sure the animation/art is good, but DBS episode 66 felt more like a Special than this. I expected to see two awesome episodes and I barely got one.

As for the DBS Special, I'm not worried about this because Goku vs Jiren will be more intense and DBS doesn't the pacing issues One Piece anime has, but the eyecatches part is something I'm worried about. Not only is annoying but also kills the flow.
No they didn't. They just called it a major moment. Only Super's special has been called going to climax.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by KameNinja45 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:56 pm

HeroR wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:"1h Specials"

Even though I have One Piece on hold, I just watched the Special episode 807/808 out of curiosity and boy that was a huge disappointment!

First, Toei advertise these as being "1h Specials" when they are just two normal episodes that sum a total of around 45 minutes. Less 15 minutes in tv ads. Nothing that I didn't expect, but worth of pointing out.

Second, each episode had 6 eyecatches. Now this is something I didn't expect. A normal episode usually has 2 eyecatches. 6 is just too much.
Both episodes together make a total of 12 eyecatches, which means everyone that watched this live on TV had to deal with 3 breaks in each episode, plus the one in the middle of both episodes.

I expected a total of 3 breaks - One in the middle of episode 807, one between both episodes and one in the middle of episode 808. I got the double of that...
If I was already annoyed for having to deal with just the eyecatches, I can't imagine what the audience that watched this live and dealt with the actual TV ads felt.

Episode 807 is mostly just flashbacks. The title is "A heartbreaking duel! Luffy vs Sanji! - part 1", even though the actual fight only starts around the 10 minutes mark of episode 808...
Episode 808 is the only "Special" and even so there's nothing mindblowing there. Luffy vs Sanji as a fight is nothing special, even though Toei was advertising it as being the climax of the arc or the final battle of the show, it's just Sanji kicking Luffy.

Sure the animation/art is good, but DBS episode 66 felt more like a Special than this. I expected to see two awesome episodes and I barely got one.

As for the DBS Special, I'm not worried about this because Goku vs Jiren will be more intense and DBS doesn't the pacing issues One Piece anime has, but the eyecatches part is something I'm worried about. Not only is annoying but also kills the flow.
No they didn't. They just called it a major moment. Only Super's special has been called going to climax.
Nah, based on future titles, this is really only the starting push for the climax.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:57 pm

KameNinja45 wrote: Nah, based on future titles, this is really only the starting push for the climax.
The director called it the start of the climax with the giant teaser calling it the climax.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:03 pm

HeroR wrote: No they didn't. They just called it a major moment. Only Super's special has been called going to climax.
I didn't worded it correctly. I meant Toei was advertising it like it was the climax of the arc or the final battle of the show.
The amount of advertising around it made it look like something bigger than it is. I knew what to expect of their fight because I read it in the manga.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:07 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
HeroR wrote: No they didn't. They just called it a major moment. Only Super's special has been called going to climax.
I didn't worded it correctly. I meant Toei was advertising it like being the climax of the arc or the final battle of the show.
The amount of advertising around it made it look like something bigger than it is. I knew what to expect of their fight because I read it in the manga.
They only called it a major moment with some weird hypbolic thrown in like the Last Supper. They never pretended, however, this was like a climax. And most of Japan read the manga, so it isn't like they were fooling anyone since there are very few Japanese One Piece fans that just watch the anime.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:44 pm

Hello, y'all. I apologize that this thread hasn't been updated with some good stuff by us sakuga fans, as most of us are over at the Discord, but I want to drop some interesting info regarding Dragon Ball Super .

Yuya Takahashi

He privately tweeted to someone that he would be participating in the special. He also said that he will be a Animation Supervisor at some point in the future.

DB Super Special

Young-ce Tu said that the special is going to be sakuga worthy. How much of that isn't known, as he isn't allowed to go in depth about that stuff. But hey, it's something we can look forward to.

As for the special itself, it's apparently going to be same as One Piece special. We'll probably be expecting a lot of ad breaks during the Super special, so even though the livestream will air with one opening and ending, the ad breaks will make up the time for the second OP and ED that'll be on the simulcast when it's split up.

So, I guess that's all we have right now.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:02 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Hello, y'all. I apologize that this thread hasn't been updated with some good stuff by us sakuga fans, as most of us are over at the Discord, but I want to drop some interesting info regarding Dragon Ball Super .

Yuya Takahashi

He privately tweeted to someone that he would be participating in the special. He also said that he will be a Animation Supervisor at some point in the future.

DB Super Special

Young-ce Tu said that the special is going to be sakuga worthy. How much of that isn't known, as he isn't allowed to go in depth about that stuff. But hey, it's something we can look forward to.

As for the special itself, it's apparently going to be same as One Piece special. We'll probably be expecting a lot of ad breaks during the Super special, so even though the livestream will air with one opening and ending, the ad breaks will make up the time for the second OP and ED that'll be on the simulcast when it's split up.

So, I guess that's all we have right now.
I'm so damn happy that Takahashi is going to be a part of the double episode/special and that he'll be returning to the show as a supervisor in the future. I'm really looking forward to next week now. Should be one hell of a double header for Super.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Artorias » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:52 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Anyone has any idea who did the art of the form in the preview? damn it looks nice.
Some of the art looks like Manabe based on ears, the shot of Goku's transformation is definitely Yamamuro's art.

People always give Yammy shit (deservedly so), but he can still draw a damn good shot when he needs to.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:10 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Hello, y'all. I apologize that this thread hasn't been updated with some good stuff by us sakuga fans, as most of us are over at the Discord, but I want to drop some interesting info regarding Dragon Ball Super .

Yuya Takahashi

He privately tweeted to someone that he would be participating in the special. He also said that he will be a Animation Supervisor at some point in the future.

DB Super Special

Young-ce Tu said that the special is going to be sakuga worthy. How much of that isn't known, as he isn't allowed to go in depth about that stuff. But hey, it's something we can look forward to.
If this is legit and a Yuya cut shows up on the special.. then the special may just be the my last day on earth.. I've been dying for another Yuya cut!

Its amazing how one comment like this (despite no source) can get me so rilled up for the special even more.. Jesus the wait is killing me, its times like this that I wish I had Flash's power.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:39 pm

Go ahead and kill yourself. We can use the Dragon Balls to resurrect you just before the special airs. :lol:

Seriously though, this info is 100% legit. You can really look forward to it, just as we all are.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:48 pm

Oh man, we haven't seen something from Yuya Takahashi since that cool cut he did on Episode 13! Looking forward to the special even more now!

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by PMD » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:57 am

That's really cool to know! I love Yuya Takahashi's work.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:Oh man, we haven't seen something from Yuya Takahashi since that cool cut he did on Episode 13! Looking forward to the special even more now!
The last thing he did for Dragon Ball was this amazing cut for the Future Trunks Edition of Resurrection 'F' (from 0:00 to 0:18):


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