"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:52 pm

Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
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Post by dragonballhero » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:39 pm

Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
Honestly? I see TOEI comparing Goku vs. Jiren to Superman vs. Doomsday/Darksied.

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Post by GodVegetto91 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:43 pm

Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
I 100% agree with that. Although i'm glad we got something — some new scenes, clues and a better quality look in comparison to the previous NEP that came out just a few days ago. I'm still dissapointed by the fact that we only got a 30 second clip, as opposed to One Piece, which had a 3 minute clip (if not more).

It's just not fair to us Dragon Ball fans.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:46 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote: I 100% agree with that. Although i'm glad we got something — some new scenes, clues and a better quality look in comparison to the previous NEP that came out just a few days ago. I'm still dissapointed by the fact that we only got a 30 second clip, as opposed to One Piece, which had a 3 minute clip (if not more).

It's just not fair to us Dragon Ball fans.
Didn't they only show a little bit of footage of the special for One Piece?

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Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
Yeah it seems the OP special on the whole disappointed fans apparently too many flashblacks and such, like I said elsewhere over-hyping can be a bad thing. I think they hit the sweet spot with DBS, it's seems perfect balance.

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Pardon, but although I think that could happen, I can't help myself thinking how weird would be... Goku getting energy from the presumed most powerful beings in the whole Multiverse, which should be considered cheating, but yet Jiren deflects as no big deal? I can predict hundred of pages of people complaining about this :lol:
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Post by mfwlegend3 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:44 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:For those that are gonna live stream it, watch the trailer in 144p and enjoy cuz that's what it's gonna be like, hope being impatient for an hour is gonna be worth it for you.
Sure, maybe if you’re a normie who goes to YouTube livestreams as you’re source for watching it. :roll: streams I go to have all been HD with absolutely no buffer issues.

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Post by Ziegander » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:53 pm

dragonballhero wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
Honestly? I see TOEI comparing Goku vs. Jiren to Superman vs. Doomsday/Darksied.
I definitely see this as Goku vs Superman.
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Ziegander wrote:
dragonballhero wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
Honestly? I see TOEI comparing Goku vs. Jiren to Superman vs. Doomsday/Darksied.
I definitely see this as Goku vs Superman.
I don’t get this comparison since Jiren and Superman have nothing in common other than both being heroes and being buff.
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Post by kinisking » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:26 pm

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:When Goku is standing up, his hair look to be the same as base, so it doesn't look like he's transformed at that point just survived.

Anyway I'm not sure why a lot of people are sullied by the idea of this form being as a result of Goku absorbing. I'd much rather it be something like this on the spot and not something already gained like SS3, SSGSS.

For those that are gonna live stream it, watch the trailer in 144p and enjoy cuz that's what it's gonna be like, hope being impatient for an hour is gonna be worth it for you.
Absorbing spirit bombs is something we've already seen.
And the amount of $h*t Toei got for it was next level. Especially absorbing it into a transformed state. It's almost like Toei is canonizing every single criticism the fandom has ever had about something they did as if there was some ulterior motive.... :think:

lol but I'm interested in seeing what happens, the lore behind it, and the fan reaction to it.
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Post by TheMikado » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:41 pm

It does, the non-canon forms get crapped on by the canon purists. LSSJ, SSJxKK, and now Spirit bomb absorption were all Toei concepts that have now somehow made their way into the anime while we have yet to see things like SSJxKK materialize in the manga which is also being adapted from Toriyamas outline but suspiciously lacks these Toei exclusive forms like SS Rage and SSJxKk

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:37 pm

Re: Jiren as Superman

I think it's gonna depend on Jiren's backstory. Like if it turns out his entire backstory/set of powers is a parody of Superman's. Though now I'm imagining Jiren wearing fake glasses and a suit going to work writing news articles at the Weekly Planet Daily, or Monthly Planet Jump under the pseudonym Cant Park or maybe Rent Lark.
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Post by Totamo » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:18 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
Yeah it seems the OP special on the whole disappointed fans apparently too many flashblacks and such, like I said elsewhere over-hyping can be a bad thing. I think they hit the sweet spot with DBS, it's seems perfect balance.
Thats because the first half was just a flashback and the second half spent a good bit recapping the first episode.

But one piece as a whole wastes about 5 to 7 minutes including the opening anyway

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:37 am

Totamo wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
Yeah it seems the OP special on the whole disappointed fans apparently too many flashblacks and such, like I said elsewhere over-hyping can be a bad thing. I think they hit the sweet spot with DBS, it's seems perfect balance.
Thats because the first half was just a flashback and the second half spent a good bit recapping the first episode.

But one piece as a whole wastes about 5 to 7 minutes including the opening anyway
Wait what? So they spent the first half flashbacking and then spent some of the second half recaping said flashback? :crazy:
Why doesn't Toei do filler for OP? It seems what Toei do with OP is worse than not filler.

At least for DBS fans will probably appreciate a Jiren flashback/backstory and I'm sure we can expect reaction shots as per usual. How funny if our special turns out much better than the over hyped OP lol.

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Post by Michsi » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:06 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Totamo wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Yeah it seems the OP special on the whole disappointed fans apparently too many flashblacks and such, like I said elsewhere over-hyping can be a bad thing. I think they hit the sweet spot with DBS, it's seems perfect balance.
Thats because the first half was just a flashback and the second half spent a good bit recapping the first episode.

But one piece as a whole wastes about 5 to 7 minutes including the opening anyway
Wait what? So they spent the first half flashbacking and then spent some of the second half recaping said flashback? :crazy:
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Cost-cutting, I guess. I don't follow OP, but I know there's been a lot of hype surrounding this special and it's a shame it didn't do so well. Read somewhere that the ratings were also surprisingly low. Wonder what this could mean for the DB special.

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Post by Totamo » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:16 am

Michsi wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Totamo wrote: Thats because the first half was just a flashback and the second half spent a good bit recapping the first episode.

But one piece as a whole wastes about 5 to 7 minutes including the opening anyway
Wait what? So they spent the first half flashbacking and then spent some of the second half recaping said flashback? :crazy:
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Cost-cutting, I guess. I don't follow OP, but I know there's been a lot of hype surrounding this special and it's a shame it didn't do so well. Read somewhere that the ratings were also surprisingly low. Wonder what this could mean for the DB special.
It means toei better give us a good fight.

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Post by Michsi » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:42 am

Totamo wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Wait what? So they spent the first half flashbacking and then spent some of the second half recaping said flashback? :crazy:
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Cost-cutting, I guess. I don't follow OP, but I know there's been a lot of hype surrounding this special and it's a shame it didn't do so well. Read somewhere that the ratings were also surprisingly low. Wonder what this could mean for the DB special.
It means toei better give us a good fight.
Horrible thought: what if those few good-looking seconds we saw in the trailer are the best the special has to offer D:

I find it hard to believe that we're getting two episodes worth of action, much less well animated action. There's going to be padding, and a lot of it. I just know it. :(

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Post by HeroR » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:44 am

Totamo wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Re: the new ad

New ad looks good. I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a ridiculously absurd 5 minute promo comparing Goku and Jiren to Julius Caesar and Brutus the way Toei did for One Piece, but optimistically I feel like it's actually possible we're getting the "more effort put into it" special compared to One Piece's special.
Yeah it seems the OP special on the whole disappointed fans apparently too many flashblacks and such, like I said elsewhere over-hyping can be a bad thing. I think they hit the sweet spot with DBS, it's seems perfect balance.
Thats because the first half was just a flashback and the second half spent a good bit recapping the first episode.

But one piece as a whole wastes about 5 to 7 minutes including the opening anyway
Doubt that was reason why the ratings were low since you have to actually watch the special know there a lot of flashbacks. It isn't like the Japanese fans knew ahead of time.
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Horrible thought: what if those few good-looking seconds we saw in the trailer are the best the special has to offer D:

I find it hard to believe that we're getting two episodes worth of action, much less well animated action. There's going to be padding, and a lot of it. I just know it. :(
The special are two episodes of Super shown together, so the padding would just be Super's normal padding.
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Post by Totamo » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:20 am

HeroR wrote:
Totamo wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Yeah it seems the OP special on the whole disappointed fans apparently too many flashblacks and such, like I said elsewhere over-hyping can be a bad thing. I think they hit the sweet spot with DBS, it's seems perfect balance.
Thats because the first half was just a flashback and the second half spent a good bit recapping the first episode.

But one piece as a whole wastes about 5 to 7 minutes including the opening anyway
Doubt that was reason why the ratings were low since you have to actually watch the special know there a lot of flashbacks. It isn't like the Japanese fans knew ahead of time.
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Horrible thought: what if those few good-looking seconds we saw in the trailer are the best the special has to offer D:

I find it hard to believe that we're getting two episodes worth of action, much less well animated action. There's going to be padding, and a lot of it. I just know it. :(
The special are two episodes of Super shown together, so the padding would just be Super's normal padding.
I wasn't talking about ratings but why many were disappointed, i went and bought snacks for it

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:26 am

Apparent spoilers for #111

https://www.db-z.com/dragon-ball-super- ... e-111/amp/

Not much other than Goku doesn't get knocked out (like some people believed for some reason).

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